Originally Posted by Scottman111

I have no idea what that game is but that skull is pretty bitchin

Originally Posted by mltk53

so i just picked up an 8gb zune today and wth. it doesn't have asian font support. whats up with that?

Originally Posted by Scrib

Superior?

lol

Originally Posted by gizmodo

Microsoft's $15 Zune Pass subscription service—a pretty sweet deal already—has just porked up their offer by giving you 10 free songs that you can keep every month. We've talked about Zune Pass in our Zune reviews before, but it's basically access to all of the Zune Marketplace for only the price of a CD a month. Since most of their catalog (90% or so, including all the majors and a few indie labels) is already in MP3 format, you can load these free songs on any kind of device you want, like your iPhone or Android phone or PS3 or Wii.

They're also announcing the addition of Universal Music Group and Sony BMG to the MP3 DRM-less format (DRM-less as long as you buy the music), the last bits to complete their "majors" MP3 collection. We think the deal is hotness as long as you're OK with the fact that you're renting, not buying; well, you're now "buying" those ten tracks a month, in essence.

Originally Posted by Anachostic

CD's are down to $10? Excellent!

While you're at the CD shop, ask if you can borrow a copy of each CD in their store so you can listen to them for a month. Tell them you'll give them $15 as a rental fee. See how that works for you.

How about if Netflix allowed you to keep six movies a year? Does that help?

Originally Posted by Sarlacc

You can keep up to 8 movies from netflix for as long as you want. And the idea of renting movies is different than music.

Why would I want to "borrow" music? When I borrow music it consists of me borrowing the CD to rip it for myself and returning it to my friend.

How does $15 bucks a month to rent music sound like a good idea?

Originally Posted by Sarlacc

You can keep up to 8 movies from netflix for as long as you want. And the idea of renting movies is different than music.

Why would I want to "borrow" music? When I borrow music it consists of me borrowing the CD to rip it for myself and returning it to my friend.
How does $15 bucks a month to rent music sound like a good idea?

Originally Posted by Anachostic

The Zune Pass is an additional choice you have when choosing Zune. It may not be for everyone, including you. That does not mean it is not good for anyone.

Originally Posted by Sarlacc

Thats all well and fine. But to use that as some kind of reason to claim superiority of the zune.

Well, thats about as gay as doucher.

Originally Posted by Anachostic

There are other reasons I feel it is superior, too. You might disagree because those features aren't important to you, similar to the new benefit currently being argued.

The problem is that you are confusing your opinions with facts. I am not going to say Zune is a superior player as a fact, I am going to say it is better in my opinion based on features that are important to me.

Originally Posted by Gizmodo

I haven't attained new music very regularly in years since the days I actually respected FM content. Between the modern choice—buying tracks, subscribing to a service or stealing it—I'm just not getting enough exposure to try before I download. Last night, things changed in a way that I hope paves the way for the future of buying music.

Microsoft's Zune team, of all people, are allowing subscription music buyers to keep 10 songs a month from their subscription downloads. Their whole collection. And 90% of the songs you keep will be DRM free, with the other 10% (wimps) coming along shortly I SHOULD HOPE. The cost is $15 a month, so $5 more than the cost of buying the tracks individually. It's worth the cost of being able to really explore the musical landscape again while keeping the prospect of fully owning my music at the end of a day. All in all, though, it's much like when we were kids and the radio was the focus of my musical world.

When I was younger, I listened to Z100 as we drove from Jersey to Queens and would later pick up cassette singles at the local mall. Maybe I'm just old and crotchety now, but to me modern radio is a corrupt clusterfuck owned by the RIAA and Washington DC lobbyists, attacking helpful companies like Pandora that try to recommend new music based on our existing tastes. Industry power struggles aside, satellite radio has the same problem. It doesn't know that I hate the song it's about to play three times in two hours on a roadtrip. I enjoy the control of digital downloads, but miss the constant exposure to radio coupled with the conversations I could have at the record store: Fresh, timely exposure plus the occasional music purchase.

Of course, the subscription model isn't new. Subscription services combined with recommendation engines were a great idea, but ultimately not one that had many takers, because many people, including me, saw no reason to shell out money for music that would eventually and inevitably evaporate when the subscription ended. With this hybridized service, the new Zune Pass changes that. At the end of the day, you've got the structured presentation of iTunes/Zune software combined with the Mix recommendation engine with full access to an almost endless set of tracks that you can explore. And for the really special songs you want to play for your future kids, you can keep them forever and ever and play on any device you want, Zune or iPod.

The only problem I can think of is that 10 songs usually don't equal an album, and some might prefer to get $9.99 worth of credit to use on 10 tracks or an album. And for some of you, this being on PC only and Zune only will be a dealbreaker. Which is why I'm hoping this hybrid music sub/buy model spreads like wildfire.

Before that happens, I'm going to get Parallels/XP on my Mac and I'm switching to a Zune. But I hope other companies pick up this model, too, so I can use new and different ways to explore full music collections without paying a dollar for every track along the way.

Originally Posted by #1 DOUCHER

$230 is a good price. use the live.com cashback thing and save even moar $$$.

what way do you have it to hook up to your car?

Originally Posted by Scottman111

So I'm seeing 120 GB Zune's around for like $230. Think it's a good deal or should I wait a month? Or maybe wait for one of those woot.com deals?

I want one soon though because I now have a way to hook it up through my car.

Any suggestions?