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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 05:57 PM
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Yeah this is going to take some getting used to. Downloading all of the Samsung Windows 8 software updates now. I hope that brings back the 2 finger scroll and zoom features on the touchpad. Those are 2 things I have noticed that don't work now.

Does it defeat the purpose of using 8 if I don't use IE as my default browser? I have been using Chrome since I got this computer and I have been liking it.
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 06:16 PM
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No, I use chrome as my default. Windows 8 will be much better with two finger scrolling.
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 02:08 AM
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Think I'll go pick up a copy tomorrow....

Full version of Pro

Item: 100020

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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 02:41 AM
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I have two upgrades Im not using at $15 each, let me know.
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 02:45 AM
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8 runs damn nice in oraclebox on a MB.
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Finally got my key for media center. FYI, you only get one key per email addy, that key only works on one PC and the key must be entered by Feb 1, 2013.
<---Has about 50 email addresses
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 03:21 AM
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It seems that the GUI for Windows Disc Image burner is gone. Though you can still do it through cmd line and if you do a search for "isoburn" you'll see isoburn.exe but when you open it it just tells you the cmd switches to use it. Kinda lame.

Though since you can natively mount ISOs i have less of a need for burning them. So back to using img burn, i guess
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 09:44 AM
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I have two upgrades Im not using at $15 each, let me know.
I read something recently where they require you to put a key in during a regular installation.

I assume one can no longer create a bootable upgrade disc to install once, and then upgrade for a full working version? This was first discovered with Vista, and still exists in 7.
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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You would need 7 first
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 11:17 AM
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So you really do have to do an upgrade with the upgrade version now? (i.e. Vista --> 8; or 7 --> 8)

I used an upgrade disc to install a fresh Win 7 to a blank HDD with no problem.
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 11:38 AM
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Anyone try Classic Shell instead of Stardock for Win 8?

http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 01:08 PM
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Hmm.. Need to find my OEM disc I bought of win 7 pro
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 01:17 PM
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Anyone try Classic Shell instead of Stardock for Win 8?

http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/
Never tried it, but the features list is impressive.
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AZuser
Think I'll go pick up a copy tomorrow....

Full version of Pro

Item: 100020
Wish this worked at Staples Canada too.
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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Wish this worked at Staples Canada too.
Psst!

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...ctID.255156900
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 03:58 PM
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Just picked up the upgrade for $15. Search and you'll find how... Don't have time to install now maybe early December when I build a new computer.
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 04:01 PM
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I think I'll install 8 on my sisters PC, can't even access task manager on her XP machine
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 04:26 PM
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This the full version?
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 05:08 PM
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8 runs damn nice in oraclebox on a MB.
I've never put windows on my MBP.

Is there a guide to do this, and how much would it cost to put 8 on there??
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 05:18 PM
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I think I'll install 8 on my sisters PC, can't even access task manager on her XP machine
virus.

check the registry. HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\System is where the task manager and other items are disabled.
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dougler
This the full version?
You qualify if you've owned a version of xp,vista or 7. you should be able to burn to a disc boot from that disc and do a clean install.

Clean Install Windows 8 With Upgrade Media

Once more into the breach, my friends. Can you clean install Windows 8 with the Upgrade Media?

You may recall that this was a huge issue with Windows 7. My resulting article, Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media, remains one of the most popular articles I’ve ever written.

A few things have changed since then.

First, the word “media” in “Upgrade media” is a bit more nuanced. Yes, Microsoft will sell you a Windows 8 Upgrade disc for $69.99 at retail. But the firm is for the first time offering an electronic, web-based version of the Windows 8 Upgrade. And since that version is temporarily a lot less expensive than the retail disc, many will want to use that instead.

Also new this time around is that Microsoft is no longer offering a Full version of Windows 8. So if you are actually installing Windows 8 on a PC that has never had any version of Windows on it before, then you will need to purchase the System Builder version of the OS (formerly called the OEM version) instead. NewEgg.com and other online retailers offer this.

But chances are, you (or, more properly, your PC) does in fact qualify for the Upgrade version. And that’s because a PC that came with Windows XP, Windows Vista, or Windows 7 does qualify. Unless you’ve got a Mac (in which case, yes, you do need that System Builder version), it’s almost impossible to imagine that your PC doesn’t qualify. So the need to figure out clean installs with Upgrade media is even greater this time around.

OK, let’s step through this. Chances are, I’ll need to update and expand this article in the future. But here’s what I’ve learned so far.

It just works: Web-based installer

As you know, the web-based Windows 8 Setup application—called Upgrade Assistant—is the preferred method for installing Windows 8, but it obviously requires that you are already running some previous OS. If that OS is Windows XP, Vista, or 7, you can simply step through the install process from within that OS, and when you get to the step called “Choose what to keep,” just choose “Nothing”. That’s a clean install, and it should just work, and Windows 8 will activate later without issues.



To be clear, I recommend that you install Windows 8 this way whenever possible.

Create install media with the web-based installer

Of course, what many of you want to do is create your own install media (USB or DVD) and install Windows 8 later, either by booting from that media or by doing so on a different computer. Upgrade Assistant permits this: After you’ve entered your payment information, the web-based installer will download Windows 8 and then prompt you to choose how you wish to install it. Your choices are: Install now, Install by creating media, and Install later from your desktop.



That middle option lets you create USB-based install media or write an ISO to the hard drive. You can later burn that ISO to a writable DVD if you wish.

Install by booting the PC with the Upgrade install media

However you acquired physical Windows 8 Upgrade install media—by purchasing the retail Setup disc, perhaps, or by making one with the Upgrade Assistant online—you can of course install Windows 8 by booting your PC using that media. This works much as it did in Windows 7.

Except for one thing. This time it works.

Regardless of how you choose to install Windows 8 on your existing PC—Upgrade or Custom—when you boot into Windows 8 for the first time, you can see that the system is activated. In Windows 7, the Custom option during Setup—which is a clean install—would result in Windows install that wouldn’t activate. So you’d have to use my article to make it work.

Install by booting a different PC with the Upgrade install media

Before signing off on this topic for now, I did want to test one more scenario. This time, I ran Upgrade Assistant on my desktop PC with an eye towards buying another electronic copy of the software and installing it on a different PC (a Windows 7-based laptop).

However, my desktop PC is already running Windows 8, triggering an odd error.



This needs to happen from a PC running a supported OS, like XP, Vista, or Windows 7. (Indeed, this is what the Windows.com web site explains.) For this reason, you may want to run Upgrade Advisor multiple times on a single PC, purchasing as many product keys as you need. And then you can install the OSes later on the actual PCs you intend to upgrade.

Which I know because I’ve tested this. That is, using one Windows 7 PC, I’ve run the Upgrade Advisor from Windows.com and stepped through the Upgrade process, buying a product key, and then cancelling it from there. Then I booted a second PC using the previously-created USB-based install media. And when prompted by Setup, I entered the product key I had just purchased on a different PC.

So what happened? The product key worked as expected during Setup, I chose a Custom install (not Upgrade) and blew away all the partitions before proceeding. And when Windows 8 first booted up, I checked Windows Activation and … sure enough, it was activated.

There’s gotta be more

Now, I know things aren’t usually this easy. And I’m guessing that some of you haven’t had the string of positive experiences I’ve had with this new Setup type. If that’s the case, please do write me an email and let me know what’s happened. Ditto for any questions about this process. As always, the aim here is to remove the doubts and document what’s possible when things go wrong. But from what I can see—after an admittedly short examination—Microsoft has done the right thing this time around. And unlike with Windows 7, Windows 8 really does make it easy for upgraders to install Windows the way they want to. Bravo to that.
http://www.winsupersite.com/article/...e-media-144648

Though technically illegal you could use the $40 instead of a system builder disc to do a clean install
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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I've never put windows on my MBP.

Is there a guide to do this, and how much would it cost to put 8 on there??
www.google.com
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 06:17 PM
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virus.

check the registry. HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\System is where the task manager and other items are disabled.
MSE says nothing. Ohh damn, more work to do.
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 06:20 PM
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 07:08 PM
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Thanks for the info on the $15 upgrade. No reason not to try it now.
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 09:41 PM
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So I installed it on VMWare Fusion no problem. I was surprised how quickly it installed. How many times can I use the installation key that Microsoft sent me?
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 10:23 PM
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So whoever last attempted to fix my sisters PC installed a copy of XP pro with a blocked volume license key.

Even thou her laptop has a legit key on the backside of it
Can't change the key thou, since its for media center edition.

If I update to 8 for $40 will it make it legit? M$ is asking for $109 to upgrade to 7 home premium.
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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 03:37 AM
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So I installed it on VMWare Fusion no problem. I was surprised how quickly it installed. How many times can I use the installation key that Microsoft sent me?
On the same PC or VM as many times as you want.
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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
You qualify if you've owned a version of xp,vista or 7. you should be able to burn to a disc boot from that disc and do a clean install.

http://www.winsupersite.com/article/...e-media-144648

Though technically illegal you could use the $40 instead of a system builder disc to do a clean install
thanks for the info, turns out the computer I was thinking of putting it on, doesn't have drivers available. ugh.
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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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I noticed automatic updates was not enabled on the Win8 VM I installed. I thought having that turned off was a big security no no. I wonder why it wasn't turned on by default, did it come like that from MS or did the VMWare installer do that?
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Looks like the VMware quick installer didn't enable the auto update. I reinstalled using the standard windows installer and auto update was enabled on install. I'm still having a problem with an update not installing. KB2756872 is the one I am having a problem with.
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check here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2777330
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So whoever last attempted to fix my sisters PC installed a copy of XP pro with a blocked volume license key.

Even thou her laptop has a legit key on the backside of it
Can't change the key thou, since its for media center edition.

If I update to 8 for $40 will it make it legit? M$ is asking for $109 to upgrade to 7 home premium.
124 to get a XP pro OEM install disc...

Yea, probably better to either upgrade to 8, or a new lappy.

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Thx, will check that out. Got the same failure in virtualbox
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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 05:23 PM
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probably an issue with drivers. You got Windows 8 certified drivers your VM?
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Found this thread http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...a-defd195a5fe3

Doesn't seem like a clear fix at this point.
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Win8 phone release live webcast now (started at 1000 pst):

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I noticed automatic updates was not enabled on the Win8 VM I installed. I thought having that turned off was a big security no no. I wonder why it wasn't turned on by default, did it come like that from MS or did the VMWare installer do that?
eh, i used VMWare Player to build my base image for MDT just now..it supposedly updated but now I have to go back into event viewer to see if it really did plus the failed update.

also just remembered i'll need to make a new local gpo pack for win 8. sigh.

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