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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 10:36 AM
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This is usual Microsoft. I can predict future successful versions: Windows 9, Windows 11, Windows 13, Windows 15.. etc.. They also have some bullshit failure in between
It's like Star Trek movies, except with those, only the even-numbered ones are good.

Or maybe that's changing now with the JJ Abrams ones...
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 11:09 AM
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they're announcing windows 9 today or whatever they're going to call it. They should release a non-feature complete tech preview build today or later this week.

This announcement is supposed to be targeted towards enterprise users since they felt abandoned with windows 8. I guess I'll watch the live blogs since MS isn't live streaming this event.

I'll fire it up in a VM when it becomes available, don't think I'll replace 8.1 right away
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 12:07 PM
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They're calling it Windows 10!? WTF
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
They're calling it Windows 10!? WTF
Wow. They don't want anyone to remember windows 8
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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They're adding multi-desktops as already shown and expose as well and another way to snap apps 9old way still works)
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 12:31 PM
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Oh shit! They changed the CMD prompt...


ZOMG copy and paste in the CMD prompt with the usual keyboard shortcut, no more right click on menu bar

well they didn't say copy but they said paste for sure
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 12:36 PM
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you know the one thing they need to steal from Unix/OS X is the network utility mode the provides a gui for ping, traceroute, nslookup, etc. So much easier than the CMD prompt
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 12:46 PM
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New experimental console features in Windows "Threshold"
Microsoft is expected to deliver its first technical preview release of Windows codenamed "Threshold" tomorrowish. And while the usual outlets will be covering the big changes, I wanted to document a relatively smaller set of welcome changes to the Command Prompt (and the underlying Console Host).



Here's the new experimental tab in Threshold's Command Prompt properties window. This tab exposes switches that turn on and off new experimental features that apply to all console windows -- including the one that hosts PowerShell.
Let's go over them.

Enable line wrapping selection



In previous versions of the Command Prompt, selecting text for copy involved crudely painting a selection box on the screen and hitting the Enter key. But you weren't done. You also had to paste that text into a text editor to correct the abrupt line endings. It was a terribly slow and error-prone process.
But that's all in the past now.

In Threshold, you can now select and copy text as you would expect to in any text editor.

Filter clipboard contents on paste



Ever pasted in a command only to realize (after it errored out) it was peppered with tabs and fancy quotation marks? I have. And I won't ever again, thanks to a new paste filter in Threshold.
Now when pasting text, fancy quotation marks are converted into their straighter equivalents and stray tabs are removed.

Wrap text output on resize



Resizing the Command Prompt window has always been an alien task. If you somehow managed to get the window to shrink, a horizontal scrollbar would appear and text would remain static and not reflow or wrap given the new constraints.

With this feature enabled, however, the window and its text behave the way you expect.

Enable new Ctrl key shortcuts

Some handy new keyboard shortcuts have found their way into the new Command Prompt as well. I say some because I can't be sure I covered them all. We'll have to wait for the official documentation to come online.

CTRL + A - Select all
CTRL + C - Copy
CTRL + F - Find
CTRL + M - Mark
CTRL + V - Paste
CTRL + ↑/↓ - Scroll (line) up/down
CTRL + PgUp/PgDn - Scroll (page) up/down

Extended edit keys

There's not a lot of information available on extended edit keys. This feature has existed in Windows for quite some time but has never really been exposed to users until Threshold.
We'll have to wait for the official word on this feature.

Trim leading zeros on selection





If you find yourself working with a lot of numerical data in the Command Prompt, you may want to turn this on.

When selecting a number with leading zeros (e.g. via double-click), the selection box will begin after any insignificant zeros present. For example, 000001234 becomes 1234. Hexadecimal and decimal prefaced numbers, however, override this rule. That is, 0x1234 and 0n1234 remain selectable in their entirety.

Opacity

This one is an oddball.
This slider ranges from a ghostly 30% all the way up to 100% (default). But it affects all console windows on your system and the entire host window, not just the background. (That color is still tweakable via the Properties window, mind you.)

As translucency increases, text readability decreases, so it's not immediately clear who would ever use this. But it's a neat technical demo and nods at the Windows enthusiast crowd that has undoubtedly
been asking for this for years.

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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 12:57 PM
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 01:03 PM
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they've announced a new preview program. You'll be able to sign up at preview.microsoft.com and you'll get access to early builds and a tech support forum that the windows engineers will be in.

Signup isn't live yet and the download for the preview version of W10 will be released tomorrow.

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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 01:12 PM
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Only took 20 years to get cntrl-c and cntrl-v in command prompt. Thanks Bill Gates.

The start menu looks like winner. Thanks Windows 95.

Mac had great success with version 10 so Microsoft decided to jump on the bus. Thanks Apple.

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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 02:20 PM
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Now I want to know how you quit a process in cmd. If you're doing an unlimited ping in CMD you use ctrl+c to quit it, but now that's copy.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 02:40 PM
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Well...looks like more junk here. Copy and paste at a command prompt? NO WAY!

Just give me a blazing fast, extremely secure, ultra stripped down XP please. You can keep any and all iterations of the live tiles.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 03:01 PM
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I personally love it, especially the intuitive desktops. But wtf happened to Window 9? Or they have finally seen their own pattern for failures?
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 03:02 PM
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PS Who is that emo fruitcake anyways?
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 03:10 PM
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Stole multiple desktops from OSX (who probably stole it from Linux)
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 03:10 PM
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Apparently "Windows 10" fits better with the companies new direction for Windows. Uniting everything under/in one OS. Didn't OSX do that last year or 2012 too?
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 04:03 PM
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Stole multiple desktops from OSX (who probably stole it from Linux)
Yes, they did. Ubuntu had it years ago.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 04:04 PM
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Yes, they did. Ubuntu had it years ago.
While cool, I rarely find myself using them.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Yes, they did. Ubuntu had it years ago.

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While cool, I rarely find myself using them.
Same, I had utilities over the years to provide this function and NEVER used them other than for novelty purposes...
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 04:06 PM
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While cool, I rarely find myself using them.
Me either. Triple monitors FTW.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 04:07 PM
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Me either. Triple monitors FTW.
6 Laptops FTW
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 04:09 PM
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6 Laptops FTW


You win. I'm still working on my NORAD command center
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL


You win. I'm still working on my NORAD command center
My wife said I couldnt have a desktop because she didnt want to dedicate a room in the house to be an "office". I showed her!
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 04:20 PM
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My wife said I couldnt have a desktop because she didnt want to dedicate a room in the house to be an "office". I showed her!
Just put your desktop in the bedroom...
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Just put your desktop in the bedroom...
Won't help me when Im sleeping on the couch.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TeknoKing
PS Who is that emo fruitcake anyways?
Joe Belfiore he's becoming their go to guy for Windows and Windows phone product demos
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While cool, I rarely find myself using them.
I don't think I'll use it, never touched it on OS X
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 07:49 PM
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Me either. Triple monitors FTW.
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6 Laptops FTW
I love my work set up. 8 24" monitors. Too bad the PC driving them is horrendously slow.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 08:04 PM
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Wait...
So going by the usual logic. This should be a shit OS right?

XP - good
Vista - shit
7 - good
8 - shit
9? - good?
10 - shit?

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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 08:18 PM
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Wait...
So going by the usual logic. This should be a shit OS right?

XP - good
Vista - shit
7 - good
8 - shit
9? -
10 - shit?

fixed
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 09:26 PM
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They're reasoning for calling it 10 is that it's going to be so good that it's a 10/10, IDK.

I think this insider program is going to be pretty interesting. From what I'm hearing, there will be frequent updates to this preview OS and you will have to install them when available. Also they will be testing new features and UI changes with users.

For example different insiders will get different UIs and they will take feedback from insiders on which is the best way to accomplish a certain task. So if internally MS is debating on which UI to use they'll push both versions out and some insiders will get one version and others a different version and they'll take feedback on both. So decisions and debates that used to only be made within MS they're now going to get insiders involved as well.

This OS isn't supposed to ship until Fall 2015 so lots of changes to be made before then.
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^Nah, apparently it's because Windows 7 eight nine.

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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 09:30 AM
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 01:12 PM
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At least no here works at CBS News...

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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 02:38 PM
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Installing the beta. Live now Download Windows Technical Preview ISO - Microsoft Windows
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 02:52 PM
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Hmm, can I run this in a VM?

EDIT: nvm, found it
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Looks good so far.
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Won't help me when Im sleeping on the couch.


Originally Posted by Whiskers
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 03:12 PM
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Downloading...

I'm interested to see all the hacks that come out that enable hidden features or at least give hints to hidden features
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