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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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Intel kills plans for 4GHz Pentium

Intel kills plans for 4GHz Pentium - - By Michael Kanellos CNET News.com October 14, 2004
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:07 PM
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Intels been losing it lately. Actually they've lost it ever since the Athlon64 processors came out. Also the P4 Prescott cores run hot as shit, and also don't offer any speed performance over the Northwood cores that they've replaced. Also to boot, Intel's 90nm cores run hot, but AMD has just released their 90nm cores that actually run cooler than there 130nm parts.

All this and I still see people buying 2.8GHz celerons believing it outperforms anything AMD offers just because of the MHz.

AMD is on a roll lately =D
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:12 PM
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english please? :P
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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english please? :P
AMD pwnz Intel.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:23 PM
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i'm glad i got the 64bit AMD
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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theyll be eating their words in a year.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cor
i'm glad i got the 64bit AMD

Running Windows 2003 64 bit edition?
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by zamo
Running Windows 2003 64 bit edition?
If your implying that you need to use XP 64 bit edition in order for the Athlon64 to be worth it your wrong. The A64 procs run 32bit/64bit, and currently it outperforms Intel on it's native 32bit, so yeah.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
If your implying that you need to use XP 64 bit edition in order for the Athlon64 to be worth it your wrong. The A64 procs run 32bit/64bit, and currently it outperforms Intel on it's native 32bit, so yeah.
Just being sarcastic.

64 bit OSs are supposed to maximize the shit out of the processor.

I have run 64 bit Oracle in a 32 bit system, on Solaris. Worth for big RAM.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:51 PM
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Windows XP 64 bit edition here
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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Does not suprise me, BTW i called Dell to purchase an upgrade Intel P4 chip today 3.0mhz on the 850Chipset motherboard. The chip came out about 2years ago, they did not have it in stock but if they did it would cost be $800 WTF just for Intel processor
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:55 PM
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Does not suprise me, BTW i called Dell to purchase an upgrade Intel P4 chip today 3.0mhz on the 850Chipset motherboard. The chip came out about 2years ago, they did not have it in stock but if they did it would cost be $800 WTF just for Intel processor
www.newegg.com
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:14 AM
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is the winxp 64 bit version like an official release or something?
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Chinisimo
is the winxp 64 bit version like an official release or something?
Beta but its very stable. Uses a bit more RAM than I'd like but it runs EVERYTHING the 32 bit version does. So far games are no different.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:18 AM
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Ken, what mobo/ram do you have. And also what O/C did you reach?
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:18 AM
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so whats the benefit of the 64bit version again?
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Chinisimo
so whats the benefit of the 64bit version again?
When people start developing 64-bit applications/games, the performance increase should be noticeable.

As for my system, its not OC'd at this time. Though i had it up a few hundred MHZ and it was stable and under 110 degrees F.

Motherboard is a Gigabyte K8VT800 Pro.

2 gigs of PC-3200 RAM. Kingston I believe.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:24 AM
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Thanks Ken,

I see they have the Intel Pentium 4/ 2.8 GHz 400MHz FSB, 512K Cache Processor - OEM for $155.

But http://powerleap.com/Processors.html have it cheaper for $149

If i can't get the 3.0 guess i will just go with the 2.8
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 07:48 AM
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Problem is XP 64 runs 32 apps slower than regular XP because it has to do a realtime software translation of the 32 instructions to 64bit via an app called WOW32.

So unless you have some native 64bit apps stick with regular XP. I have both XP64 and regular XP in my AMD64 box, regular XP is noticable faster for 32bit apps in the benchmarks I have ran.

Most people think "ohh i have a 64 bit O/S i'ts faster" which is not true unless your running a 64bit app.

And the P4 EE is the processor to compare to the AMD64 in terms of speed.


The thing is you can get a AMD64 3200 processor for $199. Which is equal to the speed of a $700 P4 EE processor. Thats the direction I would go Gavriil.

Although the 64bit stuff isn't fully utilized yet you might as well spend the same, get a faster processor and be ready for the future.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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Interesting... I was wondering when they were going to stop with the whole megahertz thing and focus on other core technoligies, like cache, etc... Dual core seems to be the next big thing... I know IBM is working on it for their line of chips too.

Good stuff to come...
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