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Old 10-04-2011, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by silver3.5
Bigger screen! Plus features to top the Samsung Galaxy S2 and Droid Bionic, but with this 4S, it still lacks behind the competition.
I see.

You know I was looking at the specs compared to the 4S.

They look pretty comparable to me, aside from the larger screen and supposedly faster CPU. :shru:

Even the bionic is comparable.

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^ Yep.

And from my personal experience Apple's phone OS is always faster, more responsive and far more user friendly than any other manufacturer's OS.

Motoblur/Sense are crap, Touchwiz is better but still clunky - the saving grace for the phones listed in that comparison is that you can root and put on non bloatware roms.
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wow seems cool i like
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tis very cool
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sweet! thanks for teh link techno! downloading for my iPad 2 meow!
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So the iPad 2 doesn't get Siri because why? It's got dual core a5
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JB is out for iOS 5 but it's tethered only, I"ll wait
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Because it doesn't have an always available connection? Or can't text or make phone calls?

Same with iPod touch...
Old 10-04-2011, 04:40 PM
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That Siri video reminds me of the Galaxy SII commercials they had with their voice commands back when it launched a few months ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxB9N9Bu7p8
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Just something Samsung copied from someone else. Apple bought app maker Siri, over a year ago.
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Because it doesn't have an always available connection? Or can't text or make phone calls?

Same with iPod touch...
3G iPad does, and with iMessages it can send texts. So no....
Old 10-04-2011, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
3G iPad does, and with iMessages it can send texts. So no....
No GPS
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The CEO or boss/ whatever of siri says that he believes that their technology was at least a few generations ahead of whatever google or whoever else had voice command tech.
And the existing app they had was dumbed down/using shortcuts to get it to work on the lesser hardware iPhones.



Based off what I see, but no knowledge of what googles version can do, it seems awesome.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Just something Samsung copied from someone else. Apple bought app maker Siri, over a year ago.
Or it was inherently baked in Android since Eclair and refined in Froyo and Samsung expanded on it with the SII. Vlingo has had the same setup on both iOS and Android for a while as well
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
3G iPad does, and with iMessages it can send texts. So no....
But there is a wifi model. So it won't work on all iPads.

Where as an iPhone they all have wifi+3G.
And an iPhone is something you would carry with you more often then an iPad.

So yes.

I'm going to STFU.

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Originally Posted by Mizouse
The CEO or boss/ whatever of siri says that he believes that their technology was at least a few generations ahead of whatever google or whoever else had voice command tech.
And the existing app they had was dumbed down/using shortcuts to get it to work on the lesser hardware iPhones.



Based off what I see, but no knowledge of what googles version can do, it seems awesome.
Yeah I'm not exactly sure what the differences are but all I know is that its not a deal breaker for a majority of people. I rarely use Voice Commands. It was cool for a week then I realized I only used it when I was alone in a silent place. Otherwise, environment noise made it useless. Now if voice command can turn things on or off around my environment I'd be impressed.
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Originally Posted by CGFebTSX04
Or it was inherently baked in Android since Eclair and refined in Froyo and Samsung expanded on it with the SII. Vlingo has had the same setup on both iOS and Android for a while as well
What's a while? Siri has been around for like two years.
Old 10-04-2011, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CGFebTSX04
Yeah I'm not exactly sure what the differences are but all I know is that its not a deal breaker for a majority of people. I rarely use Voice Commands. It was cool for a week then I realized I only used it when I was alone in a silent place. Otherwise, environment noise made it useless. Now if voice command can turn things on or off around my environment I'd be impressed.
Yea not a deal maker for me too.

Now if you can use it for 3rd party apps, then I can see you using it to turn off the lights and shit
Old 10-04-2011, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
What's a while? Siri has been around for like two years.
Not sure exactly how long but Vlingo was founded in 2008 and it can read/do voice commands. Android introduced voice search in Eclair which was about 2 years ago. It was then refined in Froyo to include Command actions such as send, navigate and a couple other things.

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Yea not a deal maker for me too.

Now if you can use it for 3rd party apps, then I can see you using it to turn off the lights and shit
Thats what I had in mind. I can see Google tying it into their Android accessories in houses since they introduced that ADK back at Google I/O a few months ago. I'm guessing that's where their idea is headed and can be further expanded with NFC as soon as your phone sends a signal to your environment it does what you tell it to do.
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Jump into the pool with your iPhone...no worries...it's covered under warranty!!!

Apple on Tuesday introduced AppleCare+ for iPhone, a new extended warranty service that combines traditional tech support, software support, and hardware support with the addition of the company's first accidental damage plan.

Like the traditional $69 version of AppleCare for iPhone that it replaces, the new $99 AppleCare+ for iPhone extends an iPhone's repair coverage and technical support to two years from the original purchase date but also adds coverage for up to two incidents of accidental damage due to an owner's poor handling of the device.

Each accidental damage incident is subject to a $49 service fee and is available only for the iPhone and its original included accessories. In turn, Apple promises that the replacement equipment it provides to customers taking advantage of the "may be new or equivalent to new in both performance and reliability" -- meaning either a new iPhone or a certified refurbished one.

AppleCare+ also bundles standard AppleCare features, such as software troubleshooting and telephone-based technical support, while also offering customers will repair needs the option for mail-in or carry-in repairs, and an express replacement service.

iPhones that exhibit defects in materials, workmanship or see their battery charge fall by 50 percent or more from original specification, remain eligible for a replacement from Apple at no cost under the new plan. Apple also notes that customers must purchased AppleCare+ together with their new iPhone, with the safest bet being to have both items appear on the same receipt (fine print).
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More proof that this will be the last iPhone without a USB connection.

It looks like Apple's making good on its promise to standardize its charger port for EU territories.

Behind all the big hitters announced by Apple today, an official micro-USB adapter has shuffled into the UK's online store in a very typically English way.

Sure, there have been third-party options for a while, but this one's the real deal and looks set to go on sale on October 14th, alongside the newly crowned iPhone 4S.

We hope and expect that this will come packaged with Apple's latest phone in Euroland -- but on the off-chance that it doesn't, we'd question whether charging an extra £8 obeys the spirit of the regulation.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/04/o...to-uk-apple-s/
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Just something Samsung copied from someone else. Apple bought app maker Siri, over a year ago.
Google has had voice command functionality actually implemented on their phones for several months now, but in typical phanboy fashion, because Apple does it, it's the greatest thing to be presented to mortal man.

I've been able to set my alarm clock, make calendar appointments, ask the weather, text/email people, and all the other crap the iphone can NOW do for at least 7 months.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
No GPS
yes it does

http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/

only thing it can't do is make phone calls but with the api an app like google voice or skype should be able to integrate with it. No reason to take away all the other features of siri that don't require 3G or GPS. If they put google maps in the wifi iPad even though it doesn't have GPS then they can add this, it's still useful without it.
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I agree it should have it. But I can see why initially it doesn't have it.
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
Google has had voice command functionality actually implemented on their phones for several months now, but in typical phanboy fashion, because Apple does it, it's the greatest thing to be presented to mortal man.

I've been able to set my alarm clock, make calendar appointments, ask the weather, text/email people, and all the other crap the iphone can NOW do for at least 7 months.
I need to see a video of how it operates on google. Do you have to say specific phrases or is it like the apple demo today where you can ask the phone in many different variations of the question?


Actually why do I care. I won't use it.


could I use it to turn off wifi or 3G, dim the screen brightness...
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I'll be getting the 4S whenever it comes out. I've gotten my monies worth out of my 3G and it's time for a replacement. Whether it's the best thing on the market or not, it'll be good enough for me.
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i got the 4 ill definitely be getting the 4s.
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Will be getting the 4S for my wife and I. The 3GS' that we have seemed a little dated when the 4 came out and I'm not going to wait for the 5 to get here.
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I can't live with my 3G for another year. The 4s will be more than enough for me.
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I think I'm going to hold off until the 5. The 4 does everything it needs to do for me, I am excited for the new iOs
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
Google has had voice command functionality actually implemented on their phones for several months now, but in typical phanboy fashion, because Apple does it, it's the greatest thing to be presented to mortal man.

I've been able to set my alarm clock, make calendar appointments, ask the weather, text/email people, and all the other crap the iphone can NOW do for at least 7 months.
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
I need to see a video of how it operates on google. Do you have to say specific phrases or is it like the apple demo today where you can ask the phone in many different variations of the question?


Actually why do I care. I won't use it.


could I use it to turn off wifi or 3G, dim the screen brightness...
Click watch video

http://www.google.com/mobile/voice-actions/
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
Don't watch that vid, Miz. There's no thin dude with a black turtleneck, jeans, and runners talking about it to make you feel great about yourself.

And you won't feel superior with the Android phone either.



So, you don't want it.
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I need some opinions. I have an original iPhone 2G 4gb and a iPhone 3G 8gb that I'll need to get rid of once I get the 4s. Both work fine but the lock button on the top of the 2G sometimes doesn't work. Normal wear on both phones but no cracks or devastating damage.

Any idea of what they are worth?
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
Google has had voice command functionality actually implemented on their phones for several months now, but in typical phanboy fashion, because Apple does it, it's the greatest thing to be presented to mortal man.

I've been able to set my alarm clock, make calendar appointments, ask the weather, text/email people, and all the other crap the iphone can NOW do for at least 7 months.
Who here is swooning over it? Just said looks sweet and that it was someone else's idea first, hell it wasn't even Apple idea, they just bought the company. But Google just took it and threw it on their phone. Talk about fanboi, look in there mirror, beat you see Yumcha.


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Originally Posted by CLtotheTL32
I need some opinions. I have an original iPhone 2G 4gb and a iPhone 3G 8gb that I'll need to get rid of once I get the 4s. Both work fine but the lock button on the top of the 2G sometimes doesn't work. Normal wear on both phones but no cracks or devastating damage.

Any idea of what they are worth?
2G, nothing, 3G maybe almost same, 3Gs or just 3G?
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I think I'm going to hold off until the 5. The 4 does everything it needs to do for me, I am excited for the new iOs
this..
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
2G, nothing, 3G maybe almost same, 3Gs or just 3G?
Regular 3G.
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Yea if I came from a 3G, I'd upgrade in a heartbeat. Me @ 4, I'll see how ios5 runs on it and then decide.


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