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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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When are the MBP updates coming!!!
What?
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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So I guess the iPhone remains with AT&T...
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
AAPL up 1.53.
It's all over the place right now... about 1/2 hour into the keynote, it was down 1.5%, and even right now, it's down $5/share from this time yesterday. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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Nothing about new iPhone OS??
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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I would be more sold if it had multitask, I'll wait for the 2nd gen iPad then
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
I like Apple...but revolutionary? Magical? Please.....it's a shadow of what it could/should have been....and the 3G pricing is outlandish + the 3G access fees.
You got a product you want to market it, give me a fucking break if thats what youre really going to bitch about.

Its not a shadow, its a precursor of whats to come. Think of what will hopefully be done with gen 2.

As for 3G pricing...the extra price to get 3G sucks. The fact there is no contract, stomachable.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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just like el iphone...
Yea but the iPhone is small so you can get a good grip on the sides. This thing is pretty big so you'd have to hold it like a plate or something. Plus it's so thin there's not much to hold onto.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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Next year they will have a 17" version called the MaxiPad.


Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
this is a cool device but hasn't sold me on replacing a laptop. I thought Apple was about combining your gadgets into one gadget. this new category while this would be the best product in that category it isn't necessary.
it is definitely a cool device. and apple's presentations always make their products look even cooler.

i'm in need of a new laptop/netbook/etc and plan on buying one in the next week or so. i'm not sold on this to replace my dying laptop.

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Regardless of price people will still buy it
they will.

Originally Posted by Whiskers
This is fail...
you'll buy one eventually.

Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
This had so much potential.....what a waste....not even multi-tasking.
much potential.

Originally Posted by Mizouse
So no multi tasking ??
no! and no flash!

Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Its a cool little device, nothing super earth shattering as far as what people hoped. Has somes ifs about it, but it does and will have its place in the market.

But since its not the GOD device, and it bares apples name more than some of find something to cry, piss, or moan about it.

If this was HP or someone announcing this device there would be hardly any whining.

Its like any time the name apple is mentioned half of you needs a tampon, a box of tissues, and a chocolate bar.
it's called iPad.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Its a cool little device, nothing super earth shattering as far as what people hoped. Has somes ifs about it, but it does and will have its place in the market.

But since its not the GOD device, and it bares apples name more than some of find something to cry, piss, or moan about it.

If this was HP or someone announcing this device there would be hardly any whining.

Its like any time the name apple is mentioned half of you needs a tampon, a box of tissues, and a chocolate bar.
I'm really trying to figure out what type of market this device covers? ok, leave out the "it's cool cause it's apple" people and the "I need new devices!!" people.

What purpose does this serve? The person who really wants this device, who doesn't have money to burn, must be in need of a laptop, travels a lot, and needs to travel light (although not that light if they are bringing the dock and keyboard). I think Apple severely overestimated the tablet niche. Not that many people are actually going to need what this thing can do, in the same way they need a iphone/smartphone.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Its a cool little device, nothing super earth shattering as far as what people hoped. Has somes ifs about it, but it does and will have its place in the market.

But since its not the GOD device, and it bares apples name more than some of find something to cry, piss, or moan about it.

If this was HP or someone announcing this device there would be hardly any whining.

Its like any time the name apple is mentioned half of you needs a tampon, a box of tissues, and a chocolate bar.
And then they end up owning the product.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mockenrue
It's all over the place right now... about 1/2 hour into the keynote, it was down 1.5%, and even right now, it's down $5/share from this time yesterday. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
It ALWAYS does this during keynotes as people sell shares. It'll shoot up over the next week.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
That's what most said years ago, but they know own Apple's iphone and/or MBP.
True. Hell, I was in the later category before I got my iPhone. And I'm still in the former when it comes to MBPs.

I'd love to rock a MBP - but there's no way in hell I can spend that much on a computer.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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I personally think this would have been a win if it was sold just as the wi-fi model and had the ability to be upgraded somehow (usb modem) to 3G with any network if needed....
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
I'm really trying to figure out what type of market this device covers? ok, leave out the "it's cool cause it's apple" people and the "I need new devices!!" people.

What purpose does this serve? The person who really wants this device, who doesn't have money to burn, must be in need of a laptop, travels a lot, and needs to travel light (although not that light if they are bringing the dock and keyboard). I think Apple severely overestimated the tablet niche. Not that many people are actually going to need what this thing can do, in the same way they need a iphone/smartphone.
I'll give you two big markets.

How many drs offices have laptops in every exam room now? And how many med based apps have come out over the iphone?

College textbooks.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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What?
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/07/...ple-notebooks/
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I'll give you two big markets.

How many drs offices have laptops in every exam room now? And how many med based apps have come out over the iphone?

College textbooks.
I would add IT consultants if it could remote to other PC's and Macs and Servers.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
I'm really trying to figure out what type of market this device covers? ok, leave out the "it's cool cause it's apple" people and the "I need new devices!!" people.

What purpose does this serve? The person who really wants this device, who doesn't have money to burn, must be in need of a laptop, travels a lot, and needs to travel light (although not that light if they are bringing the dock and keyboard). I think Apple severely overestimated the tablet niche. Not that many people are actually going to need what this thing can do, in the same way they need a iphone/smartphone.
You forgot a key demographic - those who want it because it's a neat toy.

You'll see many an iPhone and MBP (both) owner grab it because it's a 'tweener. It's not full function, but it's fairly impressive for a big iPhone.

If I had $500 to burn (now that I think about it, I don't - backyard renovation), I'd buy one as a toy.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I'll give you two big markets.

How many drs offices have laptops in every exam room now? And how many med based apps have come out over the iphone?

College textbooks.
So you think of this as a corporate device?
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CocheseUGA
You forgot a key demographic - those who want it because it's a neat toy.

You'll see many an iPhone and MBP (both) owner grab it because it's a 'tweener. It's not full function, but it's fairly impressive for a big iPhone.

If I had $500 to burn (now that I think about it, I don't - backyard renovation), I'd buy one as a toy.
No I didn't, read the beginning of my post.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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It's all over the place right now... about 1/2 hour into the keynote, it was down 1.5%, and even right now, it's down $5/share from this time yesterday. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
That's what happens with just about every item they introduce, but they made 2 billion profit last year.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
It ALWAYS does this during keynotes as people sell shares. It'll shoot up over the next week.
You know I've been a shareholder, so I watch this stuff. A lot of tablet hype was already baked into the price based on speculation alone. We'll see if the reality lives up to it. My guess is that it will get a lukewarm response from the technology press, which will also put pressure on the share price.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CocheseUGA
True. Hell, I was in the later category before I got my iPhone. And I'm still in the former when it comes to MBPs.

I'd love to rock a MBP - but there's no way in hell I can spend that much on a computer.
You'll end up spending just as much or more to have a windows laptop, and the one to replace it 3 years because its too outdated.

I've only EVER replaced my laptop because I wanted to, not because I HAD too.

Sold my first Ti powerbook to a friend after 5 years of owning, it lasted another 3.

Gave my 2nd Al powerbook to my mother in law after having it for 6 years, she uses it and loves it.

Now on my current 12" MBP til whenever I decide to dump it.

They just last and work.
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I personally think this would have been a win if it was sold just as the wi-fi model and had the ability to be upgraded somehow (usb modem) to 3G with any network if needed....
Or you could buy the non 3G model and get the Verizon MiFi 3G wifi hotspot card. It's kinda pricey ($70 a month for unlimited) but you can tether like 3 other computers to it and use it for home internet, or put it in your pocket when going somewhere. It's the size of a credit card.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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You know what they could have done with this that would have created a market? Give it the ability to display RAW file formats like OS X, the ability to access USB mass storage, and a basic cataloging app of some sort. 2/3 of the photographers on the planet would have been clamoring for one.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
So you think of this as a corporate device?
The potential is there. I think they have been aiming it towards them.

But its also for people who like be chill and dont want to flip open a laptop every time they want to check their email or read news. Its a "around the house" device with some wow factor.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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This is going to flop just like the Newton. Far too many compromises.

Its too big for a cellphone/pocket organizer and too small to accomplish any sort of real work.

Too expensive as an eReader, its not good for games nor can it multitask like a laptop.

Its a toy.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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Screw 60-90 days for new, when do the refurbs come out?
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Billiam
You know what they could have done with this that would have created a market? Give it the ability to display RAW file formats like OS X, the ability to access USB mass storage, and a basic cataloging app of some sort. 2/3 of the photographers on the planet would have been clamoring for one.


If I could use Photoshop on it, I'd buy it.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:47 PM
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Its not a shadow, its a precursor of whats to come. Think of what will hopefully be done with gen 2.
You're kidding me right?

"You're all a bunch of fucking morons who will buy a device that doesn't contain any of the new technology we've developed (but have). We're gonna save that and release it in about a year and get the rest of you idiots."
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Originally Posted by Billiam
You know what they could have done with this that would have created a market? Give it the ability to display RAW file formats like OS X, the ability to access USB mass storage, and a basic cataloging app of some sort. 2/3 of the photographers on the planet would have been clamoring for one.
There hasnt been any info on the iphoto app in it yet, so who knows.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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That's what happens with just about every item they introduce, but they made 2 billion profit last year.
Again, that's already included in the share price. Apple just reported great quarter results on Monday, beating estimates across the board. The stock price remained flat (actually down a bit) because it already was priced in.
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You're kidding me right?

"You're all a bunch of fucking morons who will buy a device that doesn't contain any of the new technology we've developed (but have). We're gonna save that and release it in about a year and get the rest of you idiots."
I still don't have an iphone, a five year old Razr
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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There hasnt been any info on the iphoto app in it yet, so who knows.
I didn't even notice that was included. I'm jut now getting back to my office after being in "emergency" meetings all morning getting needlessly hammered by upper management. I love my job. I love my job. I love my job.
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So is it over now?
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Billiam
You know what they could have done with this that would have created a market? Give it the ability to display RAW file formats like OS X, the ability to access USB mass storage, and a basic cataloging app of some sort. 2/3 of the photographers on the planet would have been clamoring for one.


To be able to use this on location...
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So is it over now?
Its never over....
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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Its never over....
Jim ????


no that would be.... John
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
The potential is there. I think they have been aiming it towards them.

But its also for people who like be chill and dont want to flip open a laptop every time they want to check their email or read news. Its a "around the house" device with some wow factor.
So that's where I think it won't work, why buy this if you have a laptop in the house already? The specs on this thing can't match a laptop. This is an app launcher, just like the iphone is. On a personal level, I'm having a really hard time imagining a lot of people that are going to go get this device because it fits their needs more than anything else.

Take away the apple coolness factor, which it has plenty of, and this thing has an extremely awkward place in the market.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
So that's where I think it won't work, why buy this if you have a laptop in the house already? The specs on this thing can't match a laptop. This is an app launcher, just like the iphone is. On a personal level, I'm having a really hard time imagining a lot of people that are going to go get this device because it fits their needs more than anything else.

Take away the apple coolness factor, which it has plenty of, and this thing has an extremely awkward place in the market.
people said that about the macbook air...and it sells.

Its for people with desktops (like me) who want something a little more portable, but not as bulky, though I do currently have a laptop.

Its also the the software and apps that will make or break this device. Apps like apples NYT app....now you can read a newspaper how YOU want, customize it to your desires.

Its on the developers shoulders to make the thing really shine.
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