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Originally Posted by Shadzilla
Just scored tickets to the game on Sunday. I have mixed emotions though, on the one hand I'm excited to be going to the game. But on the other hand, it's a somber feeling, like I'm going to a memorial service or a funeral.
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We've got a set of 4 and a set of 2, not sure which group I'll be in. The set of 4 is in section 416 (endzone - not that great seats). The set of 2 is also in the 400's, somewhere around the 20 or 30 yard line, visitors side, don't know the exact section yet. Hopefully I'll be sitting in the latter.
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Originally Posted by sonnyg80
that doesn't make him a hero
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MIAMI (AP) -- Police have detained at least three people in the Fort Myers area for questioning in the death of Washington Redskins star Sean Taylor.
A law enforcement official in Lee County confirmed the men from the Fort Myers area were in custody, but requested anonymity because the investigation is being handled by Miami-Dade County police.
Miami-Dade police Detective Carlos Maura said he was not aware of anyone in custody. He said only that detectives were in the Fort Myers area for a case, but declined to say which one.
The Miami Herald, which first reported the development on its Web site, said investigators believe three suspects learned of Taylor's house through someone who unwittingly set up the burglary by bragging about his wealth. The suspects include two teenagers and a man in his 20s, all from the Fort Myers area, the paper reported.
A telephone message left at the Florida City Police Department for the athlete's father, Chief Pedro Taylor, was not immediately returned.
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Richard Sharpstein, a former Taylor lawyer and family friend, confirmed the law enforcement report.
"It's my understanding that three individuals are in custody. A house is being searched," Sharpstein said, without disclosing who had given him the information.
He repeated previous statements that the burglary did not appear to be random, and that the 24-year-old's house had been targeted.
Evidence at Taylor's home indicated one or more intruders barged into the house early Monday in an attempted burglary, Miami-Dade police director Robert Parker said Wednesday.
Taylor and longtime girlfriend, Jackie Garcia, were awakened by loud noises at Taylor's home in an affluent Miami suburb, Sharpstein has said. Taylor grabbed a machete he keeps in the bedroom for protection, Sharpstein said, then someone broke through the bedroom door and fired two shots, one missing and one hitting Taylor in the upper leg. Neither the couple's 18-month-old daughter, also named Jackie, nor Garcia were injured in the attack.
The bullet damaged the femoral artery in Taylor's leg, causing significant blood loss. Taylor never regained consciousness and died a little more than 24 hours later.
A public viewing for Taylor is scheduled Sunday in Miami, and the entire Redskins organization plans to fly to Florida to attend Monday's funeral at Pharmed Arena at Florida International University.
Associated Press Writer Brian Skoloff in West Palm Beach contributed to this report.
A law enforcement official in Lee County confirmed the men from the Fort Myers area were in custody, but requested anonymity because the investigation is being handled by Miami-Dade County police.
Miami-Dade police Detective Carlos Maura said he was not aware of anyone in custody. He said only that detectives were in the Fort Myers area for a case, but declined to say which one.
The Miami Herald, which first reported the development on its Web site, said investigators believe three suspects learned of Taylor's house through someone who unwittingly set up the burglary by bragging about his wealth. The suspects include two teenagers and a man in his 20s, all from the Fort Myers area, the paper reported.
A telephone message left at the Florida City Police Department for the athlete's father, Chief Pedro Taylor, was not immediately returned.
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Richard Sharpstein, a former Taylor lawyer and family friend, confirmed the law enforcement report.
"It's my understanding that three individuals are in custody. A house is being searched," Sharpstein said, without disclosing who had given him the information.
He repeated previous statements that the burglary did not appear to be random, and that the 24-year-old's house had been targeted.
Evidence at Taylor's home indicated one or more intruders barged into the house early Monday in an attempted burglary, Miami-Dade police director Robert Parker said Wednesday.
Taylor and longtime girlfriend, Jackie Garcia, were awakened by loud noises at Taylor's home in an affluent Miami suburb, Sharpstein has said. Taylor grabbed a machete he keeps in the bedroom for protection, Sharpstein said, then someone broke through the bedroom door and fired two shots, one missing and one hitting Taylor in the upper leg. Neither the couple's 18-month-old daughter, also named Jackie, nor Garcia were injured in the attack.
The bullet damaged the femoral artery in Taylor's leg, causing significant blood loss. Taylor never regained consciousness and died a little more than 24 hours later.
A public viewing for Taylor is scheduled Sunday in Miami, and the entire Redskins organization plans to fly to Florida to attend Monday's funeral at Pharmed Arena at Florida International University.
Associated Press Writer Brian Skoloff in West Palm Beach contributed to this report.
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
I will this evening.
Do you have a parking pass? Tailgating?
Do you have a parking pass? Tailgating?
#131
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Don’t be so quick to blame the murder victim
By EUGENE ROBINSON
November 30, 2007
WASHINGTON — Why do you suppose so many people were so quick to blame Sean Taylor for his own murder?
Relax, that’s a rhetorical question. There’s no need for self-exculpatory huffing and puffing, no need to point out that the verdict of suicide-by-bad-attitude — pronounced so often this week, and so coldly — was usually couched in broad hints or softened by the nebulous fog of the conditional mood. Everyone knew what was really being said, and everyone knew why.
Taylor instantly became not a person but a character, one whose purpose was to advance a narrative about young black men and their manifold failings. Taylor, a gifted defensive back for the Washington Redskins, had been in trouble with the law. Despite the millions he earned playing football, he never managed to escape the quicksand lure of the mean streets — parasitic friends, envious haters, a culture of casual violence. It was his decision to swim in this cesspool of dysfunction, the narrative said. And, like so many other young black men who have made the same wrong choice, he paid for it with his life.
At least that was the story before Wednesday, when Robert Parker, director of the Miami-Dade police, announced that investigators had “no reason” to believe Taylor was targeted by his killer or even knew the man who shot him. Police were operating on the theory that the crime was a botched attempt at burglary, Parker said, essentially a random act.
I realize that Parker may eventually be proved wrong. But what fascinates me is how eager people were to believe the worst about Taylor — how ready to stuff a young man’s death into a box labeled “pathology” and call it a day — in the absence of supporting factual evidence. Apparently, “innocent until proved guilty” doesn’t apply to young black men even when they’re the victims of violent crime.
The few facts we have, in fact, tell a story that’s very different from the chosen narrative. Sean Taylor is hardly a typical product of those fabled “mean streets” — he grew up with his father, a suburban police chief, in a middle-class neighborhood. He did spend weekends with his mother in a tougher area, though, and acquired some sketchy friends. But at the same time he was attending an exclusive private high school, where he met his girlfriend Jackie Garcia, a niece of the actor Andy Garcia.
Taylor’s home, with its expansive yard and its big swimming pool, is in an upper-middle-class suburb. There’s nothing remotely “mean” about the street.
Jackie Garcia hid under the covers with the couple’s 18-month-old daughter early Monday while Taylor faced the intruder who shot and mortally wounded him. Andy Garcia released a statement Wednesday praising Taylor for his “heroic” sacrifice that saved Jackie’s life.
Much has been made of the fact that Taylor grabbed a machete from under his bed before confronting the intruder. In New York or St. Louis or Seattle, if you saw a machete you’d think: deadly weapon. But I spent years covering Latin America for The Washington Post, so when I see a machete in a place like Miami I’m more likely to think: garden implement. Tropical vegetation is a lot easier to trim with a machete than with hedge clippers, and Taylor’s father said Sean used the blade in his yard. No, machetes are not usually kept under the bed. But if my house had been broken into recently — as Taylor’s was, barely a week before his slaying — I might have wanted the thing a little closer to hand.
My purpose here isn’t to make a hero out of Sean Taylor, though he may well have died a hero’s death. He made some serious mistakes in his life, and he didn’t always have the proper regard for authority and discipline. Nor am I trying to sell the “he was finally turning his life around” narrative, as if taking a few GPS readings were enough to show anyone the way to responsible manhood.
Life isn’t so linear — and people aren’t so one-dimensional.
The next time you encounter a young black man like Sean Taylor — a man who can be headstrong and rebellious, who listens to rap music and sometimes wears his hair in a wild-man ’fro that’s meant to intimidate, who scowls when we want him to smile and makes a bad mistake or two and doesn’t choose the friends we would want him to choose — know that there is possibility within him, and contradiction, and the capacity for love. Know that he’s more than a plot device.
By EUGENE ROBINSON
November 30, 2007
WASHINGTON — Why do you suppose so many people were so quick to blame Sean Taylor for his own murder?
Relax, that’s a rhetorical question. There’s no need for self-exculpatory huffing and puffing, no need to point out that the verdict of suicide-by-bad-attitude — pronounced so often this week, and so coldly — was usually couched in broad hints or softened by the nebulous fog of the conditional mood. Everyone knew what was really being said, and everyone knew why.
Taylor instantly became not a person but a character, one whose purpose was to advance a narrative about young black men and their manifold failings. Taylor, a gifted defensive back for the Washington Redskins, had been in trouble with the law. Despite the millions he earned playing football, he never managed to escape the quicksand lure of the mean streets — parasitic friends, envious haters, a culture of casual violence. It was his decision to swim in this cesspool of dysfunction, the narrative said. And, like so many other young black men who have made the same wrong choice, he paid for it with his life.
At least that was the story before Wednesday, when Robert Parker, director of the Miami-Dade police, announced that investigators had “no reason” to believe Taylor was targeted by his killer or even knew the man who shot him. Police were operating on the theory that the crime was a botched attempt at burglary, Parker said, essentially a random act.
I realize that Parker may eventually be proved wrong. But what fascinates me is how eager people were to believe the worst about Taylor — how ready to stuff a young man’s death into a box labeled “pathology” and call it a day — in the absence of supporting factual evidence. Apparently, “innocent until proved guilty” doesn’t apply to young black men even when they’re the victims of violent crime.
The few facts we have, in fact, tell a story that’s very different from the chosen narrative. Sean Taylor is hardly a typical product of those fabled “mean streets” — he grew up with his father, a suburban police chief, in a middle-class neighborhood. He did spend weekends with his mother in a tougher area, though, and acquired some sketchy friends. But at the same time he was attending an exclusive private high school, where he met his girlfriend Jackie Garcia, a niece of the actor Andy Garcia.
Taylor’s home, with its expansive yard and its big swimming pool, is in an upper-middle-class suburb. There’s nothing remotely “mean” about the street.
Jackie Garcia hid under the covers with the couple’s 18-month-old daughter early Monday while Taylor faced the intruder who shot and mortally wounded him. Andy Garcia released a statement Wednesday praising Taylor for his “heroic” sacrifice that saved Jackie’s life.
Much has been made of the fact that Taylor grabbed a machete from under his bed before confronting the intruder. In New York or St. Louis or Seattle, if you saw a machete you’d think: deadly weapon. But I spent years covering Latin America for The Washington Post, so when I see a machete in a place like Miami I’m more likely to think: garden implement. Tropical vegetation is a lot easier to trim with a machete than with hedge clippers, and Taylor’s father said Sean used the blade in his yard. No, machetes are not usually kept under the bed. But if my house had been broken into recently — as Taylor’s was, barely a week before his slaying — I might have wanted the thing a little closer to hand.
My purpose here isn’t to make a hero out of Sean Taylor, though he may well have died a hero’s death. He made some serious mistakes in his life, and he didn’t always have the proper regard for authority and discipline. Nor am I trying to sell the “he was finally turning his life around” narrative, as if taking a few GPS readings were enough to show anyone the way to responsible manhood.
Life isn’t so linear — and people aren’t so one-dimensional.
The next time you encounter a young black man like Sean Taylor — a man who can be headstrong and rebellious, who listens to rap music and sometimes wears his hair in a wild-man ’fro that’s meant to intimidate, who scowls when we want him to smile and makes a bad mistake or two and doesn’t choose the friends we would want him to choose — know that there is possibility within him, and contradiction, and the capacity for love. Know that he’s more than a plot device.
http://www.statesmanjournal.com/apps.../71129046/1049
Last edited by sonnyboyacura; 11-30-2007 at 04:23 PM.
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4 suspects arrested and some of their Myspace pages:
Trash.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=170862408
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=54829123
Trash.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=170862408
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=54829123
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Originally Posted by jas5lf
4 suspects arrested and some of their Myspace pages:
Trash.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=170862408
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=54829123
Trash.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=170862408
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=54829123
Originally Posted by The Second Myspace
FUCK A BITCH!!!!!GET YO MONEY RIGHT!!!!!!SHIT ON YOUR LIFE!!!!!KILL YOURSELF CAUSE U DONT HAVE NOTHIN TO LIVE 4!!!!!!!"
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Is this seriously how people type these days?
MAYB I SHOULDA DID DA WRIITEN N WHITE.. HUH?? BT ITS STR8 RITE U LIK IT HUH??? GET AT ME
Wuz up cuz dis roderic im jus slidn threw 2sho yo page sum luv fuk wit me nigga!
whats up lil homie i seen you the other day flaggin. yo lil ass better stay out of trouble or um beat yo lil butt.
wats up i guess u dont fux wit me no mo huh??? but ey who jus stopin by 2 sho sum of my sweet love.........
slidn 2 fuck wit u
WUS GOIN CUH
DANG U DONT LIVE HERE NO MORE I HAVE NOT SEEN U SINCE SUN N ITS THURSDAY.
MAYB I SHOULDA DID DA WRIITEN N WHITE.. HUH?? BT ITS STR8 RITE U LIK IT HUH??? GET AT ME
Wuz up cuz dis roderic im jus slidn threw 2sho yo page sum luv fuk wit me nigga!
whats up lil homie i seen you the other day flaggin. yo lil ass better stay out of trouble or um beat yo lil butt.
wats up i guess u dont fux wit me no mo huh??? but ey who jus stopin by 2 sho sum of my sweet love.........
slidn 2 fuck wit u
WUS GOIN CUH
DANG U DONT LIVE HERE NO MORE I HAVE NOT SEEN U SINCE SUN N ITS THURSDAY.
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The other two suspects:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=251964564
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndID=105813923
"Florida's felony-murder statute allows a first-degree murder conviction and possible death sentence if a victim dies in the course of another crime specified by law, such as arson, rape and robbery, even if the death was unintended."
I hope they all burn in hell.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=251964564
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndID=105813923
"Florida's felony-murder statute allows a first-degree murder conviction and possible death sentence if a victim dies in the course of another crime specified by law, such as arson, rape and robbery, even if the death was unintended."
I hope they all burn in hell.
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Originally Posted by jas5lf
The other two suspects:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=251964564
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndID=105813923
"Florida's felony-murder statute allows a first-degree murder conviction and possible death sentence if a victim dies in the course of another crime specified by law, such as arson, rape and robbery, even if the death was unintended."
I hope they all burn in hell.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=251964564
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndID=105813923
"Florida's felony-murder statute allows a first-degree murder conviction and possible death sentence if a victim dies in the course of another crime specified by law, such as arson, rape and robbery, even if the death was unintended."
I hope they all burn in hell.
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Originally Posted by jas5lf
The other two suspects:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=251964564
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndID=105813923
"Florida's felony-murder statute allows a first-degree murder conviction and possible death sentence if a victim dies in the course of another crime specified by law, such as arson, rape and robbery, even if the death was unintended."
I hope they all burn in hell.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=251964564
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndID=105813923
"Florida's felony-murder statute allows a first-degree murder conviction and possible death sentence if a victim dies in the course of another crime specified by law, such as arson, rape and robbery, even if the death was unintended."
I hope they all burn in hell.
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This certainly changes things for the late Mr. Taylor. Turns out his house was targeted because it is usually empty during the season.
On a related note, Florida has the death penalty.
On a related note, Florida has the death penalty.
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what a bunch of tools.. i love the people that post pictures with like $1k cash acting like they're ballers, i hope they get killed in prison and im glad there will be justice. again to Sean
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Originally Posted by sonnyg80
heres hoping this is what happens to em:
Oh well...keep your butthole tight you jackasses.
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Originally Posted by sonnyg80
wow - all of the ppl on those myspace pages (not just the 4) are pieces of shit...supporting them and what not, ridiculous.
hope they fuckin die.
hope they fuckin die.
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Originally Posted by JJ4Short
Do you see these peoples pages? They have people talking about FREE this and FREE that, Free this dick! How are people so fucking stupid. I go on mydeathspace.com sometimes and I was looking at people who killed people. Some kid shoots and kills a 16 year old girl and his friends are on his page talking about free this and free that. Same thing with another kid in Cali who killed a father in a home invasion. Kids are fucking stupid these days and they believe this rap shit and it seems like it crosses all lines race and class because they think its cool to have a friend in jail.
Oh well...keep your butthole tight you jackasses.
Oh well...keep your butthole tight you jackasses.
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I just told my wife that rooting agains the Skins is saying she hates black people....But we really do want them to loose...
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
I just told my wife that rooting agains the Skins is saying she hates black people....But we really do want them to loose...
loose like your wife or lose like the Dolphins?
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Um, we want you to loosen up....
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^^ Yes, that was . I watched the entire service today.