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Old 11-15-2019 | 11:41 AM
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Can I have my helmet back please?

Absolutely, let me put it back on for you too.



Old 11-15-2019 | 12:04 PM
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Won't argue the history, but IMO that's giving Garrett maybe too much credit for a premeditated act. It was a very physical game on both sides. Garrett found himself in the middle of an incident that he should have backed down from. But yes, there was a lot of potential here for things to have ended much worse than they did. But I don't think that potential means Garrett should go to jail. Suspended for a long time - yes.

And we shouldn't look past the fact Pouncy kicking him in the head on the ground too. There's a lot of "what if" scenarios there too that end badly.
Garret was targeting Rudolph's head all game, I mentioned it above, Rudolph was hit in the head by Garret 5 or 6 times before this incident, it was not a 1 time deal
Old 11-15-2019 | 12:18 PM
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As a paid professional, having self-restraint and discipline in the heat of the moment of a GAME should be something Garrett should be accountable for. Being suspended for the year and into next should've been what Goodell handed him.

The QB could've been severely injured and he has a prior concussion history too. Unforgivable idiotic moment by the Browns player. Period. And :ibjupitersolossaysdemons:...
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Old 11-15-2019 | 12:46 PM
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Will Garrett ever face assault charges? Just wondering.
Old 11-15-2019 | 12:46 PM
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Will Garrett ever face assault charges? Just wondering.
He should.
Old 11-15-2019 | 12:50 PM
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I personally wouldn't push for it but I also didn't just take a helmet to the head
Old 11-15-2019 | 01:19 PM
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I personally wouldn't push for it but I also didn't just take a helmet to the head
Intentionally wielded too. As a weapon. This isn't even a tackle. This is attempt to injure deliberately not even from a PLAY.
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Old 11-15-2019 | 01:45 PM
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As a paid professional, having self-restraint and discipline in the heat of the moment of a GAME should be something Garrett should be accountable for. Being suspended for the year and into next should've been what Goodell handed him.

The QB could've been severely injured and he has a prior concussion history too. Unforgivable idiotic moment by the Browns player. Period. And :ibjupitersolossaysdemons:...
Clearly the Demons told him to do it H

Originally Posted by pttl
Will Garrett ever face assault charges? Just wondering.
Word around here is that Rudolph's agent is a lawyer and is looking into if charges can be filed
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Old 11-15-2019 | 03:00 PM
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Who started the fight? Who tried to walk away?

If there’s a case, it’s a PR stunt.
Old 11-15-2019 | 04:50 PM
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Who started the fight? Who tried to walk away?

If there’s a case, it’s a PR stunt.
Regardless, to rip off the QB's helmet and swing and connect?
Old 11-15-2019 | 06:16 PM
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Are you talking about football or criminal conduct?

From a criminal perspective, there is a suspect, a victim, and a weapon in an aggravated assault. QB’s and DE’s don’t mean anything. You don’t get to pick a fight, get stabbed, and then say the guy assaulted you. That’s not how any of this works.

From a football perspective, Myles lost his mind and committed a heinous act of sportsmanship. I won’t apologize for him. What he did was wrong. The part that confuses me the most is that I watched literally everyone of his college games live or same day. We never saw this. Richy Incognito showed his thug side at Nebraska. Michael Bennett wasn’t an angel in college either. Myles wasn’t like that. That doesn’t excuse what he did though.

But to call someone a criminal is a step our society says has to be beyond doubt. Rudolph got tackled and tried to rip off Myles’ helmet. He isn’t an innocent bystander here, victim of a rampaging mad man, so let’s not pretend like he is.

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Old 11-15-2019 | 06:18 PM
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I remember when the Canadians tried pressing charges against Chara
Old 11-15-2019 | 06:41 PM
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If fights resulting from an inherently violent sport involving one guy hitting another in the head when he's not wearing a helmet is assault then the NHL can just shut down now.

This incident was a lot of things, but taking it to criminal assault seems way over the top IMO.
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Old 11-15-2019 | 07:11 PM
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K. Dunno...not an expert on the matter. But, if say, the guy injured the QB so badly that it fractured his skull and something terrible happened, is that assault then?

It's just with pure luck IMO that the helmet connected on the thickest part of the skull.

I'm not debating you guys per se. Just seriously asking.
Old 11-15-2019 | 07:34 PM
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In the case that someone starts a fight with you, you have a right to defend yourself. My example about someone getting stabbed isn’t hypothetical. It’s happened, and there were no charges pressed.
Old 11-15-2019 | 08:50 PM
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I remember when the Canadians tried pressing charges against Chara
I remember when Andre Johnson whipped Finnegan around like a little bitch, ripped off his helmet, and punched him three times. And we all cheered him on for doing it.
Old 11-16-2019 | 08:05 AM
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I'm not a fan of the apology to Rudolph via the media, no matter who wrote it. (Garrett, his agent, etc)


Old 11-16-2019 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by oo7spy
I remember when Andre Johnson whipped Finnegan around like a little bitch, ripped off his helmet, and punched him three times. And we all cheered him on for doing it.
The difference is that Andre Johnson was never known for being a dirty or controversial player. Quite the opposite.

Cry foul all you want, I hate the Raiders and Vontaze Burfict, but the NFL hands down arbitrary punishments. Video evidence screws players more than not, and everybody saw that on TNF.
Old 11-16-2019 | 05:06 PM
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I don’t remember crying foul. I laughed at all the Garrett haters. Like Doom bro-shaming him because he doesn’t power lift the way he wants him to. Garrett is a strong mother fucker.

Shit, I once watched him pull a grown ass man off the turf with just one hand by his face mask.

Old 11-16-2019 | 10:29 PM
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Old 11-17-2019 | 02:33 PM
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Ravens looking good.
Old 11-17-2019 | 02:37 PM
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Old 11-17-2019 | 07:15 PM
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so... I'm a little confused... the "trick play" that the Patriots did today, where Brady passed the ball to Edelman and then Edelman to someone in the endzone... wasn't that a backward pass? (from Brady to Edelman)

Old 11-17-2019 | 07:43 PM
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Not sure what you are confused about. Edelman can only throw the ball if he catches a backwards pass from Brady. Same idea from the 2014 Ravens game

Old 11-17-2019 | 07:46 PM
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Also I havent seen Brady this upset after a win in a long time. His post game was maybe 3 questions, all short answers. The offense hasnt had rhythm in a couple weeks
Old 11-17-2019 | 08:00 PM
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so... I'm a little confused... the "trick play" that the Patriots did today, where Brady passed the ball to Edelman and then Edelman to someone in the endzone... wasn't that a backward pass? (from Brady to Edelman)
Believe it just falls into the category of a lateral, not considered a pass. So Edelman can initiate a forward pass after that. But if he fumbles the toss from Brady, it's a live ball not an incomplete pass.
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Old 11-17-2019 | 08:04 PM
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Oh good. Bears can't kick FGs again.
Old 11-17-2019 | 10:13 PM
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Bears make a QB switch. Mitch is officially done in Chicago I believe with this move.
Old 11-17-2019 | 10:46 PM
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Bears make a QB switch. Mitch is officially done in Chicago I believe with this move.
Aren't they claiming that he has a hip injury?
Old 11-17-2019 | 11:12 PM
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Aren't they claiming that he has a hip injury?
O RLY.

Dunno. Bears' season is over. No shot at the WC even, IMO.
Old 11-17-2019 | 11:14 PM
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NFC is stacked this year
Old 11-18-2019 | 07:23 AM
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I don’t remember crying foul. I laughed at all the Garrett haters. Like Doom bro-shaming him because he doesn’t power lift the way he wants him to. Garrett is a strong mother fucker.

Shit, I once watched him pull a grown ass man off the turf with just one hand by his face mask.

Get the term right. Only bros quarter squat. You can be strong and still squat like shit. I don't hate him, I just said he's already doing one thing stupid, so makes sense he does something else stupid

Figures with his shitty half squats he'd do something else stupid
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Old 11-18-2019 | 09:08 AM
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NFC is stacked this year
And yet the Eat division winner will be lucky to go .500.
Old 11-18-2019 | 09:36 AM
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Ya but I feel like the NFC East winner is like 10-6 every year. Statistically I might be wrong but I feel like the 1 seed never comes out of the East
Old 11-18-2019 | 11:12 AM
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Ravens look like the most complete team, as long as they are healthy

Kyler Murray is the only QB to get a 100+ passer rating against the 49ers this season, and he did it twice
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Saw that Niners have hardest schedule for remainder of the season.
Old 11-18-2019 | 01:15 PM
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Saw that Niners have hardest schedule for remainder of the season.
GB, @BAL, @NO, ATL, LAR and @SEA. Yeah I'd call that a rough schedule to finish out for sure.
Old 11-18-2019 | 01:17 PM
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Could have a huge impact on playoff standings
Old 11-18-2019 | 01:54 PM
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NFC is stacked this year
Thanks for rubbing it in.
Old 11-18-2019 | 02:38 PM
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Also I havent seen Brady this upset after a win in a long time. His post game was maybe 3 questions, all short answers. The offense hasnt had rhythm in a couple weeks
Good thing they haven't played any one good...


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