No other coaches have done it since Jimmy Johnson.

Why? Because jerruh undercuts the authority of every coach he has. The players all know jerruh has the final say on all things. And as Louder said...he doesn't even know he is doing it. Dallas will be hopeless until either jerruh dies, or they find a coach who can channel the personalities in the locker room to believe in the greater good. Good luck with that.

 

Cowboys are in a much better place ever since Jerry relinquished roster management over to his son.

I remember Jerry wanted to draft Manziel, but his son vetoed him and drafted one of their current All-Pro linemen instead.

That’s just one example, I’m sure Jerry still has influence, just not as much as he used to.

I miss the days of old, when Jerry would throw away money and first rounders for a player like Joey Galloway

 

It's not about player management. It's about a coach not having authority over his players. Jerry removes every coach's authority. Garrett lasted so long because he, Garrett, was a pussy.

 

I think Jones became this version AFTER the SB with Jimmy...?

 

After the 2nd SB. That's when the split happened. Then bozo the coach rode Jimmy's team to a 3rd SB.

 

All of this is true but IF you win in Dallas you'll live on forever

 

No one will win again in Dallas while Jerry is doing what he is doing. He'll have to die for Dallas to win again.

 

Idk about that lol. They have the talent to make a run

 

Most important thing in football for me now is a Packers exit.

 

 

if they don't win within 2 years it won't happen. Actually if the don't win next year it won't happen.

 

If the Seahags play like they did against my Eagles without our starting QB the pack will roll.

Kris, can you ask your on-line to chop block Clowney and take out a knee?

 

Clowney has made some dirty plays before, but an eye for an eye isn’t right.

 

 

We'll do our best.

Yes they will. So many penalties on the offense just destroyed driver after drive. They need a much cleaner game. Speaking of which....

I don't like to see any key player being knocked out from either team. It was unfortunate and I'd have preferred Wentz be in for the whole game. I realize Clowney is polarizing so I won't defend him too much, other than to say I don't believe it was intentional. Probably more like playing recklessly, which is still wrong. I don't think anyone's play should needlessly expose other players to injury. I wouldn't be surprised if discipline came down. If it were Wilson, I'd be pretty bent so I get it.

 

Saw a meme of Mike M and Jones having a sleepover. Forgot what movie that was. Had the little boop to the nose.

 

TB12

 

So we'll see if Kraft forces Belichick to keep TB12 for another year. I think Belichick may put his foot down and move on..but then again who will be their QB. Unless the plan is for the Pats to try to trade/draft and get some weapons and have TB12 for another year.....

Also reading TB's post, he did NOT say he would love to be back in a Pats uniform but that he will be back in the "arena." Looks like he will be looking to sign somewhere if the Pats release him

 

Apparently they like the kid Stidham. But no one outside knows as if he's ready

 

Yeah, I've no idea how Stidham is...but again I don't follow NE sports media. Any local radio/beat reporters have opinions on that kid?

But dude can you imagine if Belichick had his way? They would've been able to move directly from Brady to Garoppolo....and the dynasty would've likely continued to 10+ years to come (maybe not as successful but still)....

 

FWIW, as much as I hate your team, if they lose Tom, they will be just fine. The system continues and as you've seen with key players that have moved on from NE, the team continues truckin' on because of their system (including all the cheating). I do not see much of a regression from the Pats.

 

So Boston has two very big sport radio programs. 10-2 and 2-6pm

On the 10-2 program, one of the hosts is Scott Zolak a former QB for the Pats. He still has "sources" within the Pats. He's the one who says they like the kid but he hasn't had any real game exp.

The drafting of Jimmy G was perfect. Brady fucked up Bill's plan by still being Brady at age 40+. I still think keeping Brady was the right move. The yr they trade Jimmy, Tom won MVP and brought the Pats to another SB. And last year I don't think Jimmy wins the AFC champ game or the SB like Brady did.

I'm a sucker for Tom, obviously, I'd take him in a wheelchair over anyone else. He's a god to us and always will be. Would 10+ yrs of Jimmy been the right move for the franchise going forward, idk maybe, but who knows if Jimmy wins anything. We just assume he would because of Bill but we've never seen Jimmy in a big game. Maybe he does have IT maybe he doesn't.

 

It's a tough thing to guess at for sure. That offense is built around Brady making good throws - accurate, proper timing and with good decision making. And I'd argue he's the best in the league at those things. You might be able to replicate the accuracy initially, but you can't replicate the timing and judgement that comes with a 19 year veteran. Now the area they can improve is mobility, which Brady is not. But on the whole I think you're right - the net result of a new QB is they are probably going to be just fine. They will make sure they get a replacement that fits what they need.

This will all be really interesting to see how it plays out. On one hand, you can totally see Belichick sticking to his "no emotions involved" approach and simply cut bait and move on. On the other hand, a 19-year run is so rare and so unique, it seems a shame that he finish his career in another uniform. But plenty of others have done it. I guess it will come down to one simple question - was the failure to advance this year because of the QB? I don't think it was. I don't think a new QB is what they need to return to the SB. But can they reach agreement on a new contract that works for both of them?

We'll see.

 

Role players can be filtered in and out. We've seen it for 20yrs. QBs are different. Can they be successful yes. Can they be Brady? No

 

You gotta see it from my view. From the age of 10 all I've know is Brady. And for every single year and game since, the Pats have been expected or in position to win every game, the division, the AFC championship and the SB. Every single year for 20yrs. I don't want to watch football after he leaves. I'd rather rewatch the last 20yrs instead

 

anyone know what's Taysom Hill's contract? I can see teams trying to get him if his contract is ending.

 

so... I just looked him up, Taysom Hill signed a 3 year $1.66 Million contract in 2017...

unless he's loyal to Sean Payton, I can see him being sought after, maybe even by The Patriots . I think every team right now is looking for or would love to have a QB that can run and scramble like LJ

 

I suppose I'm a bit over the top when it comes to your team but seriously, I believe Jay Cutler would have 6 Rings playing for the Pats.

 

Taysom Hill is a gadget player, no chance he gets a big contract (in the context of QBs)

It should certainly be respectable as he allows them to save a roster spot or two, or three

If he could read a defense and dissect them, he would’ve started in relief during Brees injury instead of Bridgewater.

 

Football is a weird sport...and to me, QBs are like goalies in hockey...

Hear me out. The system means that the trickle-down effect from a LONG-TERM coach with a long-term OC and playbook is generically static. It's mature. The process is vetted and basically the kinks are all ironed out. They know what the contingency plays are if the option 1 or 2 fails. Patriots have that because Bill has been there since the start of time. The OC has also been there for awhile. You add to this an offense GEARED to protection and with superb scouting in finding the right players who run the right routes.

How often do you see Tom Brady just standing there until 10 Mississippis without much pressure? The protection is ONE OF THE BEST. Coming from watching a Bears team with poor protection routinely and a QB running for life, it is with envy and bitterness I watch this. The Pats also have TEs that WORK. You take the protection and the TEs that do not work out, what do you have? And then, there are the WRs that run amazing routes. That is discipline and goes back to the coaching SYSTEM. It's full-circle.

So, am I THAT over-the-top believing ANY NFL-class QB can play in NE? I think not. Seriously, even Rex Grossman or Cade McNown would've won SBs playing in NE. And oh, add on top of the cheating ways and how penalties seem to always favor the Pats...yeah, unbeatable.

Again, Brady...meh. NE will continue to contend just fine.

 

I'm not saying you're wrong but it's all hypothetical

Edit: Same goes for Jimmy G. We have a good idea of what could've happened if he stayed but we'll never know. We know what Tom is and that's why I wouldn't change a thing

 

NE’s offense has constantly evolved and within the last decade or so, however long it’s been, McDaniels is one of the best play callers and offensive architects.

What they do great in all aspects is coaching up their players and changing their schemes to fit their players’ strengths, instead of keeping their defense and offense rigid.

Their defense is what will keep them afloat. Belichick is showing that he’s still got it. This year is an outlier more than anything, mainly because their offense has been awfully anemic in the red zone. They don’t have the weapons they used to.

Unlikely that this remains the case though.

 

About Stidham, are we talking about Auburn’s QB? He wasn’t that impressive to me, but he is young, and we played them early in the year. Still, he’s no Tua, Burrow, McSorley, or even Patterson.


About the Pats winning without TB, I think they would have. Flacco won a Super Bowl.

...with Lewis, Suggs, and Reed.

This is how Aggies feel about Manziel’s two years at TAMU. My buddy at work says when he’s feeling down he plays Manziel’s highlights on YouTube.

 

Sure but it is still stable because the key people in that staff are still there.

I'll use the Bears because each year is an exercise in bitterness: Guess what? New OC this year because Nagy turfed his. Yet another scheme. The defense took a step back because Fangio left...coincidence? Again, no continuity. The O-line was a mess and there was ZERO TE production due to injuries and again, uneven play-calling. I'll take NE's "sputtering" offense anyday over what I deal with weekly in Chicago.

 

Watching him beat Bama in Tuscaloosa was one of the crazier games I've seen in college ball

 

 

I really don’t know much about the Bears other than Trubisky has regressed severely.

Just like how a QB can make his receivers look good, he can make the o-line look a little better too. A smart QB will know what’s coming and adjust plays and protections accordingly. He will also know where to go with the ball or at least that he should get rid of it sooner.

I don’t think Trubisky is doing that offense any favors.

 

IMO, the "smart QB" comment is the chicken and egg debate. Having watched ALL the Bears games, I will say that very few QBs have had the time to stand in the pocket with the time that Brady has had. More often than not, Mitch, like Cutler before, is running for his dear life. The other issue is that the TE production has been horrible. A TE acts like an extra downfield option that the Bears never had. Brady at least until this year, has had that. Then, Chicago makes the head-scratching move of dropping at 1000+ annual RB in Howard and have nothing in place for him. No running attack means the D will sit there daring Mitch to beat them with an O-line and TE they know aren't scary.

The QB is jittery. So yeah...he's going to make knuckle-headed throws because he's a basketcase. QBs, aside from Rodgers, because he's a freak, are more a by-product of the system IMO and personnel. Call me crazy but I just feel the generic "banter" and cliched criticisms of QBs are inaccurate. There is no truly "genius" QB who makes things miraculous or suddenly stable on a routine basis unless he knows his system and his scheme is reliable. Mitch? He is running for his life most of the game and he has no rushing attack. How "smart" is he going to be when he knows it's all on him with little protection and supplementary offense to alternate the throws?

This sort of thought process can be said about goaltenders in hockey if we are talking about that sport.

 

Patriots for the most part and some other elite teams seem to know how to use guys right. I'm sure the Fins would've fucked up with Brady, Lamar, or Brees years ago. Look at Tannehill this year. Didn't play first 5 games and still had 22/6 and lead all QBs in average yards per game. It is talent but it's a combination of how the talent is used as well.