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Old 02-05-2012, 09:34 PM
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well, Gronkowski being mostly a non factor really hurt the Patriots. That was every bit the game I thought it was gonna be.
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Wes Welker not making that catch really killed the Patriots chances. :/
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also branch not catching the ball also gutted the pats
Old 02-05-2012, 10:18 PM
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I really don't follow pro football. But I just saw on ESPN's site that the Giants (World Champs) were 9-7 and Green Bay were 15-1.

And people think a playoff system will help the NCAA.
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It will.

The regular season means nothing. All it means is for seeding, if you make the playoffs, and who you play. The regular season you play random teams + your division teams 2x. You're not playing the 'best of the best'.
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Oh thank god. The football season has been salvaged. The Patriots didn't win the Super Bowl. Now I don't have to see a million bandwagon fans walking around sporting their fresh of the shelf Tom Brady jerseys. I didn't really care who won today...as long as it wasn't the Patriots.
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I don't get the Tom Brady hate. Patriots themselves, maybe.... I've heard the term Belicheat thrown around quite a bit, and I don't respect that part.

But Eli Manning comes off as a pretentious, entitled brat to me so doesn't matter how many championships he wins, he'll always come off to me as "waahhh, wahhh, I'm too good for San Diego"

If the Giants won three SBs in a decade or less they'd have bandwagon fans as well. They're actually well on their way now...
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Originally Posted by Costco
I don't get the Tom Brady hate. Patriots themselves, maybe.... I've heard the term Belicheat thrown around quite a bit, and I don't respect that part.

But Eli Manning comes off as a pretentious, entitled brat to me so doesn't matter how many championships he wins, he'll always come off to me as "waahhh, wahhh, I'm too good for San Diego"

If the Giants won three SBs in a decade or less they'd have bandwagon fans as well. They're actually well on their way now...
I don't get why everyone jumps on Brady's dick all of the time. It's like everytime Brady completed a pass the announcers gargled his ball bag. Come to think of it, every Patriots game is the same way. I'm not a Giants fan but boy am I glad they won.
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Originally Posted by cpm06wdptl
I don't get why everyone jumps on Brady's dick all of the time. It's like everytime Brady completed a pass the announcers gargled his ball bag. Come to think of it, every Patriots game is the same way. I'm not a Giants fan but boy am I glad they won.
In part because he's had a chip on his shoulder his whole career. He set out to prove the entire league wrong and IMO he did. He made a lot of good passes, including a perfect drive with no incompletions, resulting in a pass TD among other things. Other than the bone-headed safety, Brady was mostly let down by his defense and receivers/TEs this game. Brady made almost perfect passes but even his most reliable targets dropped the ball several times, especially crucial in the 4th. Meanwhile Eli forces it into coverage sometimes and luckily the opposing DB/LB isn't looking back to make a play.

Credit will be given where it is due though - to the Giants.

I wouldn't have cared who won if it was the Patriots and some other random NFC team but since it was Eli, I kinda wanted the Patriots to win. No big deal either way, I didn't win or lose a cent due to the result. I don't like Brady or dislike him but I definitely respect him.
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Originally Posted by MWalsh9152
well, Gronkowski being mostly a non factor really hurt the Patriots. That was every bit the game I thought it was gonna be.
I thought for a second he caught that last pass off of everybody's hands...just a step or two closer. Will be burned into his mind forever I'm sure.
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Originally Posted by Costco
I don't get the Tom Brady hate. Patriots themselves, maybe.... I've heard the term Belicheat thrown around quite a bit, and I don't respect that part...
It's not so much the Patriots or Tom Brady that I hate. I just can't stand all of the bandwagon wannabe fans that sport their gear around. 10 years ago you would be pretty hard pressed to find a Patriots fan outside of Boston. Back then they were an easy win on any halfway decent team's schedule and only the true New England fans cheered for them. Now, after they've won a few recent Super Bowls and make the playoffs every season, you can't hardly walk a block in any city in America without seeing some loser wearing his fresh off the shelf Patriots gear. Unless you were born in the New England area or Tom Brady is your uncle I don't want to hear about how they are your favorite team.

I just have absolutely no respect for people that fall into this category. They are not the true fans. A true fan has a team they watch every Sunday and root for them win or lose. They don't throw in the towel and decide it's easier to ride another team just because they want to watch "their" team win.

I feel the same way about the Packers, Yankees, Red Sox, Lakers, Celtics...People who are LEGITIMATE fans of these teams know who they are and they should understand where I'm coming from and not take offense to this. People who are the bandwagon idiots that follow these teams around until they stop winning and then move on to the next great thing know who they are too and should know that they deserve no respect.
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
It will.

The regular season means nothing. All it means is for seeding, if you make the playoffs, and who you play. The regular season you play random teams + your division teams 2x. You're not playing the 'best of the best'.
You're correct about the division teams 2x, but there's more to it:

Currently, each team's 16-game regular season schedule is set using a pre-determined formula:

* Each team plays the other three teams in their division twice: once at home, and once on the road (six games).
* Each team plays the four teams from another division within its own conference once on a rotating three-year cycle: two at home, and two on the road (four games).
* Each team plays the four teams from a division in the other conference once on a rotating four-year cycle: two at home, and two on the road (four games).
* Each team plays once against the other teams in its conference that finished in the same place in their own divisions as themselves in the previous season, not counting the division they were already scheduled to play: one at home, one on the road (two games).

This schedule was designed so all teams will play each other at least once in a four-year span, and will play in every other team's stadium at least once in an eight-year span. It also guarantees that regardless of a given team's final divisional placement in the previous season, the 16 games that team plays in this current season will consist of:

* four games against opponents who finished the previous season in first place in their respective divisions,
* four games against opponents who finished the previous season in second place in their respective divisions,
* four games against opponents who finished the previous season in third place in their respective divisions, and
* four games against opponents who finished the previous season in fourth place in their respective divisions.
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Originally Posted by Costco
I don't get the Tom Brady hate. Patriots themselves, maybe.... I've heard the term Belicheat thrown around quite a bit, and I don't respect that part.

But Eli Manning comes off as a pretentious, entitled brat to me so doesn't matter how many championships he wins, he'll always come off to me as "waahhh, wahhh, I'm too good for San Diego"

If the Giants won three SBs in a decade or less they'd have bandwagon fans as well. They're actually well on their way now...

I used to think the same thing about him for years, but later in his career he moved into a neutral likeness to me. Same with Coughlin and the Giants. They just do their jobs and you don't hear much else from them: no bashing teammates that don't deserve it, no blaming others for their mistakes, no bragging, etc. (or maybe they do and I don't hear about it) Everybody went nuts when he answered that he was an elite QB...of course he would answer yes! It's called confidence!



I'm not really a fan of either of them or the Giants, but I don't mind seeing them win. There's no hate like I have for the Jets, Ravens, and many others
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Originally Posted by BDoggPrelude
Oh thank god. The football season has been salvaged. The Patriots didn't win the Super Bowl. Now I don't have to see a million bandwagon fans walking around sporting their fresh of the shelf Tom Brady jerseys. I didn't really care who won today...as long as it wasn't the Patriots.
Coming from a guy from Colorado. Doesn't mean much.
Old 02-06-2012, 02:13 AM
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when I was at the airport last week I took notice and saw a couple of Brady jerseys, a Tebow jersey, and an Eli jersey (in California)

Originally Posted by BDoggPrelude
It's not so much the Patriots or Tom Brady that I hate. I just can't stand all of the bandwagon wannabe fans that sport their gear around. 10 years ago you would be pretty hard pressed to find a Patriots fan outside of Boston. Back then they were an easy win on any halfway decent team's schedule and only the true New England fans cheered for them. Now, after they've won a few recent Super Bowls and make the playoffs every season, you can't hardly walk a block in any city in America without seeing some loser wearing his fresh off the shelf Patriots gear. Unless you were born in the New England area or Tom Brady is your uncle I don't want to hear about how they are your favorite team.

I just have absolutely no respect for people that fall into this category. They are not the true fans. A true fan has a team they watch every Sunday and root for them win or lose. They don't throw in the towel and decide it's easier to ride another team just because they want to watch "their" team win.

I feel the same way about the Packers, Yankees, Red Sox, Lakers, Celtics...People who are LEGITIMATE fans of these teams know who they are and they should understand where I'm coming from and not take offense to this. People who are the bandwagon idiots that follow these teams around until they stop winning and then move on to the next great thing know who they are too and should know that they deserve no respect.
I hate those people as well.

I live in northern California and I know a few people that root for the Bulls, Eagles, Packers, Lakers.... etc. and there are many Cowboys fans. The ironic thing is it's those people who are the most outspoken and talk the most trash.
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Originally Posted by BDoggPrelude
It's not so much the Patriots or Tom Brady that I hate. I just can't stand all of the bandwagon wannabe fans that sport their gear around. 10 years ago you would be pretty hard pressed to find a Patriots fan outside of Boston. Back then they were an easy win on any halfway decent team's schedule and only the true New England fans cheered for them. Now, after they've won a few recent Super Bowls and make the playoffs every season, you can't hardly walk a block in any city in America without seeing some loser wearing his fresh off the shelf Patriots gear. Unless you were born in the New England area or Tom Brady is your uncle I don't want to hear about how they are your favorite team.

I just have absolutely no respect for people that fall into this category. They are not the true fans. A true fan has a team they watch every Sunday and root for them win or lose. They don't throw in the towel and decide it's easier to ride another team just because they want to watch "their" team win.

I feel the same way about the Packers, Yankees, Red Sox, Lakers, Celtics...People who are LEGITIMATE fans of these teams know who they are and they should understand where I'm coming from and not take offense to this. People who are the bandwagon idiots that follow these teams around until they stop winning and then move on to the next great thing know who they are too and should know that they deserve no respect.
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Originally Posted by Scottman111
I used to think the same thing about him for years, but later in his career he moved into a neutral likeness to me. Same with Coughlin and the Giants. They just do their jobs and you don't hear much else from them: no bashing teammates that don't deserve it, no blaming others for their mistakes, no bragging, etc. (or maybe they do and I don't hear about it) Everybody went nuts when he answered that he was an elite QB...of course he would answer yes! It's called confidence!



I'm not really a fan of either of them or the Giants, but I don't mind seeing them win. There's no hat like I have for the Jets, Ravens, and many others
Is it Jets hate or Rex hate?
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What a good year to get season tickets....
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God that game was a bore.
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God that game was a bore.
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What a good year to get season tickets....
How'd you get those? Isn't there a huge waiting list?
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How'd you get those? Isn't there a huge waiting list?
When the new stadium came up they opened back up.
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Patriots
Patriots
Patriots



That is all
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Patriots
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That is all
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Well, congrats to the G-Men. Eli comparing himself to Brady's caliber earlier? Valid.
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Still think the Niners should have won it all.
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Manningham's catch was WTF-worthy...and Welker's drop was also a shock given how reliable he is.

I call it karma for all the cheating Belicheat did in the past.
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Thank you giants...!!!! I didn't even know I won 1st and 2nd quarter of my office super bowl pool

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Pats would've won the game with the final pass if Tebow was their QB...
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Thank you giants...!!!! I didn't even know I won 1st and 2nd quarter of my office super bowl pool

How much did you win?
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$50

Buys me lunch for a week...


Or a month if I get food from Chinatown...
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Originally Posted by Costco
But Eli Manning comes off as a pretentious, entitled brat to me so doesn't matter how many championships he wins, he'll always come off to me as "waahhh, wahhh, I'm too good for San Diego"
QFT

I was never an Eli fan based on that.

I don't get the Brady hate either...6th round pick and and played himself into the HoF with the career that he has had.
Plus he gets to bang Giselle every fucking night. All the Brady haters are just that...haters.
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here's a crazy stat:

throughout the season
- Passes to thrown Welker >10 yds in the air this season = 0 drops
 
- Passes to thrown Manningham >30 yds in the air this season = 0 catches
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$50

Buys me lunch for a week...


Or a month if I get food from Chinatown...
I think to celebrate im gonna get a #1 super bowl of phó
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here's a crazy stat:

throughout the season
- Passes to thrown Welker >10 yds in the air this season = 0 drops
 
- Passes to thrown Manningham >30 yds in the air this season = 0 catches
Like I said...karma. Billy should never had been a cheat.
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Like I said...karma. Billy should never had been a cheat.


don't mess with karma...that crazy bitch is all about payback
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$50

Buys me lunch for a week...


Or a month if I get food from Chinatown...
Hey, money is money. Nicely done.
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Manningham's catch was WTF-worthy...and Welker's drop was also a shock given how reliable he is.

I call it karma for all the cheating Belicheat did in the past.
Great catch, but an even better pass. That was even Eli's first read.. once he looks left he immediately launches the ball 38 yards down field into double coverage and it drops into Manningham's hands, full-stride, where neither defender can make a play on it. Bea-fucking-utiful.


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