NFL: 2011 Draft and Off-Season News and Discussion Thread
02-07-2011, 04:12 PM
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NFL: 2011 Draft and Off-Season News and Discussion Thread
Well, allow me to quickly turn the page on the 2010-2011 season and move onto the off-season where hope is renewed.
BEARS FOR THE SUPERBOWL NEXT SEASON...!
...but, let's see if those morons can draft a freaking O-line.
02-07-2011, 04:13 PM
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Some WRs would be nice too. Like, ones that can run a decent route. 
02-07-2011, 04:15 PM
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L o c k o u t
02-07-2011, 04:18 PM
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Sadly, I have a feeling that may happen...let's just hope they can work it out.
02-07-2011, 04:21 PM
#5
Our o-line looked shoddy this year despite having what, I think 2-3 1st round draft picks, and a 2nd and 3rd rounder? Run blocking was good, but pass blocking was awful... I think 
Jim Harbaugh revamped basically the entire coaching staff, o-line coach included.
I'd like to see Prince Amukamara in the 1st round (think we are at #7) and maybe Christian Ponder in the 2nd. Ponder looked good in the Senior Bowl, making NFL-esque passes even with unfamiliar receivers (throwing to receiver on a comeback before receiver even turned around)
I don't like any of the QBs in this draft class that much. Slim chance we'll get Andrew Luck this year or the next anyway. As far as lockout goes, SUPPOSEDLY the commish and DeMaurice Smith (executive/vice president/blahblah of NFL players' blahblahblahblah) are meeting several times a week for several hours at a time to somehow work this out.... they'd better
Jim Harbaugh revamped basically the entire coaching staff, o-line coach included.I'd like to see Prince Amukamara in the 1st round (think we are at #7) and maybe Christian Ponder in the 2nd. Ponder looked good in the Senior Bowl, making NFL-esque passes even with unfamiliar receivers (throwing to receiver on a comeback before receiver even turned around)
I don't like any of the QBs in this draft class that much. Slim chance we'll get Andrew Luck this year or the next anyway. As far as lockout goes, SUPPOSEDLY the commish and DeMaurice Smith (executive/vice president/blahblah of NFL players' blahblahblahblah) are meeting several times a week for several hours at a time to somehow work this out.... they'd better
02-07-2011, 04:25 PM
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If the players can't understand that they need a rookie pay scale, it's going to be hard. You would think more veteran players would want it that way, more in their pockets, for those who have proved themselves.
Medical, I don't like that the players who play a few years think they should have heath care for the rest of their lives. They know what they are doing and make a choice to play the game.
18 games, Why not? Allows for more competition and they can get paid more, they don't get their salary playing preseason games.
Medical, I don't like that the players who play a few years think they should have heath care for the rest of their lives. They know what they are doing and make a choice to play the game.
18 games, Why not? Allows for more competition and they can get paid more, they don't get their salary playing preseason games.
02-07-2011, 04:34 PM
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If the players can't understand that they need a rookie pay scale, it's going to be hard. You would think more veteran players would want it that way, more in their pockets, for those who have proved themselves.
Medical, I don't like that the players who play a few years think they should have heath care for the rest of their lives. They know what they are doing and make a choice to play the game.
18 games, Why not? Allows for more competition and they can get paid more, they don't get their salary playing preseason games.
Medical, I don't like that the players who play a few years think they should have heath care for the rest of their lives. They know what they are doing and make a choice to play the game.
18 games, Why not? Allows for more competition and they can get paid more, they don't get their salary playing preseason games.
The 18 games though, Howie Long put it best... he sent out a message to the NFL executives and owners basically saying "you go out there, find a friend, both of you put on a set of pads and then run full speed into each other 20 times"
He didn't shoot down the idea of 18 games, but noted that if the league does expand it to 18 games (something I'm all for myself) then they need to expand rosters and possibly put in another bye week. Players break down enough as it is, and I agree with him.... but he outlined the guidelines in a much better way. can't remember it all exactly
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02-22-2011, 05:03 PM
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Jeremy shockey has been released. sad to see him leave.
although this marks the beginning of the Jimmy Graham era. guy is gonna be a superstar.
think anyone will scoop shockey up?
although this marks the beginning of the Jimmy Graham era. guy is gonna be a superstar.
think anyone will scoop shockey up?
02-23-2011, 07:02 AM
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Our o-line looked shoddy this year despite having what, I think 2-3 1st round draft picks, and a 2nd and 3rd rounder? Run blocking was good, but pass blocking was awful... I think Jim Harbaugh revamped basically the entire coaching staff, o-line coach included.
I'd like to see Prince Amukamara in the 1st round (think we are at #7) and maybe Christian Ponder in the 2nd. Ponder looked good in the Senior Bowl, making NFL-esque passes even with unfamiliar receivers (throwing to receiver on a comeback before receiver even turned around)
I don't like any of the QBs in this draft class that much. Slim chance we'll get Andrew Luck this year or the next anyway. As far as lockout goes, SUPPOSEDLY the commish and DeMaurice Smith (executive/vice president/blahblah of NFL players' blahblahblahblah) are meeting several times a week for several hours at a time to somehow work this out.... they'd better
Jim Harbaugh revamped basically the entire coaching staff, o-line coach included.I'd like to see Prince Amukamara in the 1st round (think we are at #7) and maybe Christian Ponder in the 2nd. Ponder looked good in the Senior Bowl, making NFL-esque passes even with unfamiliar receivers (throwing to receiver on a comeback before receiver even turned around)
I don't like any of the QBs in this draft class that much. Slim chance we'll get Andrew Luck this year or the next anyway. As far as lockout goes, SUPPOSEDLY the commish and DeMaurice Smith (executive/vice president/blahblah of NFL players' blahblahblahblah) are meeting several times a week for several hours at a time to somehow work this out.... they'd better
02-24-2011, 10:08 AM
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Should be an interesting draft...but, probably the last of any action for awhile. I think we have a lockout incoming.
03-01-2011, 04:01 PM
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03-01-2011, 08:01 PM
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patrick peterson predicted to go 1st overall.
called "most talented football player and most gifted athlete physically in the draft"
yet cam newton won the heisman.
since when was the heisman about being an MVP?
i always understood the definition of the heisman award to be the "best college football player in the league"
cam = heisman winner
peterson = best football player
called "most talented football player and most gifted athlete physically in the draft"
yet cam newton won the heisman.
since when was the heisman about being an MVP?
i always understood the definition of the heisman award to be the "best college football player in the league"
cam = heisman winner
peterson = best football player
03-02-2011, 09:17 AM
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they need fairley too...
come to think of it they need people all around the board...
biased aside.. i do think PP7 goes first...
a lot of teams would love to have the next best thing to Devin Hester on kick returns + great DB skills...
come to think of it they need people all around the board...
biased aside.. i do think PP7 goes first...
a lot of teams would love to have the next best thing to Devin Hester on kick returns + great DB skills...
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03-02-2011, 09:27 AM
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Banned
I don't doubt they'll think long and hard about him, but I think they'll lose Charles Johnson to FA (stupid not to tag him) because of my aforementioned views on their cheapass owner. Plus, having a 'local' kid be the cornerstone of your draft will get a few tickets sold.
Certainly could go multiple ways.
Certainly could go multiple ways.
03-02-2011, 10:21 AM
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@ Tommie Harris...You could've been great...
03-02-2011, 12:54 PM
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Thinking we'll take him at 4 if he falls that far. Chad is getting old and might be gone after this year (contract) and the rest of our WR core is thin, although we could use help elsewhere. Tough decisions, but this guy is a beast.
03-02-2011, 01:00 PM
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This won't happen, but it would be nice. Mike Brown won't trade Palmer. Chad tried the same exact thing a few years ago (while making a way bigger fuss) and he didn't budge.
Although if Palmer is true to his word and retires, we will automatically be down to our 3rd string QB because his brother is somehow our #2 QB, and he's terrible, so he'll be gone. I think Carson even pays his salary
03-02-2011, 01:10 PM
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i been slacking since sunday... coulda been either... Peterson did play SOME receiver at LSU, but its def. not his strong suit.. he belongs in the secondary. hes not that great of a catcher TBH... but he was always in the perfect spot...
my fun was watching kickoffs... it was a coin flip to see if he was taking it down field.
my fun was watching kickoffs... it was a coin flip to see if he was taking it down field.
03-03-2011, 08:09 AM
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i been slacking since sunday... coulda been either... Peterson did play SOME receiver at LSU, but its def. not his strong suit.. he belongs in the secondary. hes not that great of a catcher TBH... but he was always in the perfect spot...
my fun was watching kickoffs... it was a coin flip to see if he was taking it down field.
my fun was watching kickoffs... it was a coin flip to see if he was taking it down field.
As for Green/Jones, Green has the much better route running ability.
03-03-2011, 09:38 AM
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Three Wheelin'
In a perfect world, you ship him to Cincy, we ship Palmer to Seattle to reunite him with Carroll and shut him up, and you guys get whatever you need to be happy.
This won't happen, but it would be nice. Mike Brown won't trade Palmer. Chad tried the same exact thing a few years ago (while making a way bigger fuss) and he didn't budge.
Although if Palmer is true to his word and retires, we will automatically be down to our 3rd string QB because his brother is somehow our #2 QB, and he's terrible, so he'll be gone. I think Carson even pays his salary
This won't happen, but it would be nice. Mike Brown won't trade Palmer. Chad tried the same exact thing a few years ago (while making a way bigger fuss) and he didn't budge.
Although if Palmer is true to his word and retires, we will automatically be down to our 3rd string QB because his brother is somehow our #2 QB, and he's terrible, so he'll be gone. I think Carson even pays his salary
03-03-2011, 10:20 AM
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Well, the collective bargaining deal ends tonight @ midnight...Anyone optimistic...?
03-03-2011, 11:05 AM
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Bent = #1
Based on some intermediate throws in combine practice routes?
Except Cam actually has a good throwing motion and makes the throws when he needs to.
Who is it at the end of the clip that Cam accelerates from before scoring the TD?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOi2hj_sjyY
Except Cam actually has a good throwing motion and makes the throws when he needs to.
patrick peterson predicted to go 1st overall.
called "most talented football player and most gifted athlete physically in the draft"
yet cam newton won the heisman.
since when was the heisman about being an MVP?
i always understood the definition of the heisman award to be the "best college football player in the league"
cam = heisman winner
peterson = best football player
called "most talented football player and most gifted athlete physically in the draft"
yet cam newton won the heisman.
since when was the heisman about being an MVP?
i always understood the definition of the heisman award to be the "best college football player in the league"
cam = heisman winner
peterson = best football player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOi2hj_sjyY
03-03-2011, 12:30 PM
#38
Bent = #1
Yes I know PP had ridiculous combine #'s, but for Cam's size he also had some ridiculous numbers.
03-03-2011, 01:02 PM
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he was hit around the 5-6 yard line and FELL into the endzone... i didnt see any dragging. he also fumbled the ball with his lackluster carrying skills..
he's lucky that play didnt result in a turnover...
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03-03-2011, 01:28 PM
#40
Bent = #1
you're suggesting he outran peterson, which is, well, not feasible..
he was hit around the 5-6 yard line and FELL into the endzone... i didnt see any dragging. he also fumbled the ball with his lackluster carrying skills..
he's lucky that play didnt result in a turnover...
he was hit around the 5-6 yard line and FELL into the endzone... i didnt see any dragging. he also fumbled the ball with his lackluster carrying skills..
he's lucky that play didnt result in a turnover...
Lackluster carrying skills? I'm pretty sure his only fumble was in the BCS game. The ball crossed the goal line so he didn't fumble the ball 
PP had a 5 yard advantage on Cam yet Cam somehow got by PP... how did that happen if Cam didn't outrun PP?