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Old 05-01-2006 | 03:59 AM
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[QUOTE=GOOSE]Back to back MVPs are reserved for names like Wilt, Russel, Bird, Magic, and Jordan. Not Steve freakin Nash./QUOTE]
couldnt agree more, i told my buddy that today
Old 05-01-2006 | 12:36 PM
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Old 05-01-2006 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cazzy
After the win last night over the Cavs, Gilbert Arenas jokingly told the media in his press conference:

This is Lebron's show, were all just witnesses!

That slogan would be more appropriate if it changed to "We are all witnessess...of Lebron traveling"
Old 05-01-2006 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mamboking
No, I did not expect them to beat Dallas for the series. But this is the fucking third year that they are gonna get swept in the playoffs. Is it wining a couple of home games too much to ask?
Apparently it is. Dallas is a superb team...and Jerry West is getting 'd for being pissed off all the time.

Be happy though, I'm a Knicks fan since 93.
Old 05-01-2006 | 01:04 PM
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[QUOTE=h2o-pr00f]
Originally Posted by GOOSE
Back to back MVPs are reserved for names like Wilt, Russel, Bird, Magic, and Jordan. Not Steve freakin Nash./QUOTE]
couldnt agree more, i told my buddy that today
Probelm is that how the voters define MVP shifts a little bit every year. I think there shold be 2 awards - NBA Player of the Year, defined as the best player, most outstadning player, the player you would pick first in a single game pickup game based on their performace that season. The MVP is just that - the player that meant the most to their team.

That way you get more flexibility. My player of the year would be Kobe.
Old 05-01-2006 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by iamhomin
That slogan would be more appropriate if it changed to "We are all witnessess...of Lebron traveling"
mind if i steal that one
Old 05-01-2006 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by iamhomin
That slogan would be more appropriate if it changed to "We are all witnessess...of Lebron traveling"
Old 05-01-2006 | 01:18 PM
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Kobe really made his case yesterday for MVP. Nash lost the game for the Suns.
Old 05-01-2006 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MARIOisHOT
Kobe really made his case yesterday for MVP. Nash lost the game for the Suns.

Except of course, the MVP has nothing to do with the playoffs.....


Edit: are you talking playoff MVP?
Old 05-01-2006 | 01:51 PM
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Old 05-01-2006 | 02:16 PM
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Why is Kobe changing his number?
Old 05-01-2006 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by iamhomin
Apparently it is. Dallas is a superb team...and Jerry West is getting 'd for being pissed off all the time.

Be happy though, I'm a Knicks fan since 93.

Regarding the knicks, yeah I guess the Grizz could do much worse, but they (Grizz) were in the Knicks place a few years back. Then THE LOGO got here and turn the franchise around. I don't blame him for being pissed, since he is such a hard competitor and I don't know why but it would appear like they are not trying hard enough for some reason.
Old 05-01-2006 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by teg_to_bike
Why is Kobe changing his number?
To make more money
Old 05-01-2006 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mamboking
Except of course, the MVP has nothing to do with the playoffs.....


Edit: are you talking playoff MVP?





Old 05-01-2006 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MARIOisHOT




How can I be ? You were not clear enough on your statement. It's too early to designate a playoff MVP candidate and your team has to go to the finals if you want a chance at it, which the Lakers won't.
Old 05-01-2006 | 03:09 PM
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san antonio got owned last night, hopefully they lose so Dallas can play SAC, memphis is getting im sure tonight

whats the grizzlies playoff record again
Old 05-01-2006 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HyDrOpOnIkToKa
san antonio got owned last night, hopefully they lose so Dallas can play SAC, memphis is getting im sure tonight

whats the grizzlies playoff record again

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Old 05-01-2006 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mamboking
Except of course, the MVP has nothing to do with the playoffs.....
Technically not, but a player who was deemed worthy of the regular season MVP is expected to continue their brilliance in the playoffs. Just look at past winners. Also, almost all MVP winners have led their team to the playoffs, at the very least (there might have been a year or two where the MVP was from a non playoff team)

So to say that the MVP has nothing to do with the playoffs is not entirely correct.

Look at the history of the award. Almost all the MVP awards were handed to the players before a home game in the conference finals. Bird, Magic, Jordan in the 80s-90s, and even more recently, Shaq, Iverson,Duncan, Garnett in '04, etc...

Point is, while not directly related, there is a correllation between a regular season MVP and that players performance and how far he goes in the playoffs. Plus, look at how many of the regular season MVPs also went on to win the Finals MVP that same year (probably around 50%, while the other half was either on the losing team in the Finals or at least in the conference finals) and you'll see that the MVP and playoffs go hand in hand.

Nash is gonna look and feel pretty silly in a few weeks when the NBA flies him out to Dallas or San Antonio or LA for him to pick up his MVP trophy in a suit and tie, whereas the real MVP should pick up his trophy in his warm-ups while getting ready to lead his team to battle.
Old 05-01-2006 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GOOSE
Nash is gonna look and feel pretty silly in a few weeks when the NBA flies him out to Dallas or San Antonio or LA for him to pick up his MVP trophy in a suit and tie, whereas the real MVP should pick up his trophy in his warm-ups while getting ready to lead his team to battle.


I can't remember when that wasn't the case. So unless the NBA presents his trophy in game 5, the NBA is going to have egg on their face giving a phony MVP his trophy after he was eliminated from the playoffs.
Old 05-01-2006 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mamboking
How can I be ? You were not clear enough on your statement. It's too early to designate a playoff MVP candidate and your team has to go to the finals if you want a chance at it, which the Lakers won't.
Yeah, I don't know how you were either. He clearly was referring to the regular season because it is way too early to discuss who will win the Playoff MVP.
Old 05-01-2006 | 03:41 PM
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ESPN just said that Nash will indeed get his MVP trophy during game 5 in Phoenix on Tuesday.

Here's the link

http://mvpwnedtrophy.ytmnd.com/
Old 05-01-2006 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GOOSE
ESPN just said that Nash will indeed get his MVP trophy during game 5 in Phoenix on Tuesday.

Here's the link

http://mvpwnedtrophy.ytmnd.com/
Old 05-01-2006 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GOOSE
Technically not, but a player who was deemed worthy of the regular season MVP is expected to continue their brilliance in the playoffs. Just look at past winners. Also, almost all MVP winners have led their team to the playoffs, at the very least (there might have been a year or two where the MVP was from a non playoff team)

So to say that the MVP has nothing to do with the playoffs is not entirely correct.

Look at the history of the award. Almost all the MVP awards were handed to the players before a home game in the conference finals. Bird, Magic, Jordan in the 80s-90s, and even more recently, Shaq, Iverson,Duncan, Garnett in '04, etc...

Point is, while not directly related, there is a correllation between a regular season MVP and that players performance and how far he goes in the playoffs. Plus, look at how many of the regular season MVPs also went on to win the Finals MVP that same year (probably around 50%, while the other half was either on the losing team in the Finals or at least in the conference finals) and you'll see that the MVP and playoffs go hand in hand.

Nash is gonna look and feel pretty silly in a few weeks when the NBA flies him out to Dallas or San Antonio or LA for him to pick up his MVP trophy in a suit and tie, whereas the real MVP should pick up his trophy in his warm-ups while getting ready to lead his team to battle.

I hear what you are saying but the reality is that the voting is done prior to the playoffs so the playoffs don't affect the focus of the award. I bet the NBA starts handing the MVP trophy in the first series of the playoffs next year.


edit: correction, it just became a reality
Old 05-01-2006 | 03:57 PM
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I just heard on ESPN that a winner of the MVP hasn't had less than 50 wins since 1982. If that is routine, I guess I am not that disappointed that Kobe didn't win. I just hope it’s that and not the character issues that many people have problems with.
Old 05-01-2006 | 09:15 PM
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Old 05-01-2006 | 10:51 PM
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Old 05-02-2006 | 01:14 AM
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Wow the nuggets suck and where was melo man the whole entire series.
Old 05-02-2006 | 07:42 AM
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I would love it if next lakers game, they have david stern on the court starting the whole mvp speech bullshit, with everyone thinking its gonna be nash, and then outta nowhere gives it to kobe. I'd die lol
Old 05-02-2006 | 08:25 AM
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Wow the nuggets suck and where was melo man the whole entire series.
He was their best player but didn't do anything special in this series. The Nuggets, as currently constituted, need some outside shooting and better play from their big men. They also need to get rid of Kenyon Martin and his outrageous contract
Old 05-02-2006 | 08:49 AM
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I want to watch the nets game today, but it says on nba.com that nba tv will be showing it. I don't have nba tv. Am I screwed?

I hate going to a bar/sports bar to watch the game.

And I am in freaking jersey, and they are playing in jersey.
Old 05-02-2006 | 08:57 AM
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I want to watch the nets game today, but it says on nba.com that nba tv will be showing it. I don't have nba tv. Am I screwed?

I hate going to a bar/sports bar to watch the game.

And I am in freaking jersey, and they are playing in jersey.
so shouldnt it be on a local channel?
Old 05-02-2006 | 09:30 AM
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with everyone thinking its gonna be nash, and then outta nowhere gives it to kobe. I'd die lol
Why would Kobe even be considered to be an MVP. I can think of a handful of players that would win it over Kobe. A few are on championship caliber teams, unlike the Lakers.
Old 05-02-2006 | 10:21 AM
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so shouldnt it be on a local channel?
I am hoping.
Old 05-02-2006 | 11:00 AM
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Has Nash commented on his two bonehead plays that handed the Lakers a victory? All i heard is his saying he did not call for a timeout.

MVP my ass.
And don't bother posting that the MVP is for the regular season only. Already know the voting format.
Old 05-02-2006 | 11:23 AM
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Why would Kobe even be considered to be an MVP. I can think of a handful of players that would win it over Kobe. A few are on championship caliber teams, unlike the Lakers.
Did you happen to watch any NBA games this season?
Old 05-02-2006 | 11:24 AM
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Why would Kobe even be considered to be an MVP. I can think of a handful of players that would win it over Kobe. A few are on championship caliber teams, unlike the Lakers.
you really know nothing. enough said.

and i would assume the game will be on YES...
Old 05-02-2006 | 11:31 AM
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you really know nothing. enough said.

and i would assume the game will be on YES...


Sniff sniff...slayer, do you smell a "Kobe Hater" too?
Old 05-02-2006 | 12:09 PM
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no, i smell ignorant
Old 05-02-2006 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cazzy
Did you happen to watch any NBA games this season?
Yes I did.
Old 05-02-2006 | 01:37 PM
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you really know nothing. enough said.

and i would assume the game will be on YES...
I know that given the chance, you would lick the sweat off Kobe's balls.


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