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Ok, respect to LeBron though. I still don't like him, but despite losing he carried his team just like in the 2015 finals. Being the only player to average a triple double in the finals is insane.
Yeah this GSW team is insane. LeBron put up insane numbers and it just isn't enough.
Even if we transported MJ Prime to the current Cavs team could they beat GSW......
If you replaced Darren Williams with Michael Jordan, the Cavs would easily win.
If I'm running a team (like my Bulls) I would be tanking to hell right now. There is no chance that any team in the east wins 3 games in the finals. Reload over the next 2-4 years
Congrats GS! With even the tightest of defense, at times, it was still hard to stop them. The Golden State "Avalanche" was ridiculous! Glad Durant finally got what he wanted even though he jumped on the bandwagon to get it, instead of making a team for himself. The Cavs looked confused on defense almost all night. Weak side D, no help. Traps, no rotation. Boxing out, non-existent (like most teams anyway). The fact that Kyrie looked a little tight all game affected them on offense and Kevin Love couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat (trade talk? I think so)...
My only gripe of the finals was the poor officiating. Obviously you can't make every call, but if you are going to call it on one side of the court, please call the same foul on the other side. For the most part they did pretty well.
Valid...but my counterpoint in this discussion is that those very same Pistons I used to illustrate as a superteam was also the one Jordan had to go through.
And per my opinion of the contact rules of the NBA back then, I believe Jordan had it significantly tougher. Sure, I'm biased because I'm a huge Bulls fan and worship MJ. But, just saying.
Now that we have final stats to use, I will make my last case for Jordan never facing a team as good as 2017 GSW (even though I said Finals, I will entertain the Pistons). Since I don't know which year you thought they were best, I went with 1988 Pistons.
Statistically, these Warriors are only second to the 1996 Bulls in overall performance, offense and defense. They are tied with the 1987 Lakers to barely edge those Bulls on offensive performance. I'm not seeing the Pistons anywhere near a G.O.A.T. discussion. Again, the only point is trying to compare Lebron's Finals performance to MJ's doesn't seem like a fair comparison this year.
^^^As I said...even if you replaced LeBron with MJ Prime...I doubt he can overcome the 2017 GSW.
Obviously if you add MJ Prime to Cavs team then it's a sweep for GSW...but yeah LeBron to MJ comparo is not gonna be fair. Plus back in MJ's days the offense could get away with WAY more shit than today's NBA rules with everything becoming a foul....
Now that we have final stats to use, I will make my last case for Jordan never facing a team as good as 2017 GSW (even though I said Finals, I will entertain the Pistons). Since I don't know which year you thought they were best, I went with 1988 Pistons.
Statistically, these Warriors are only second to the 1996 Bulls in overall performance, offense and defense. They are tied with the 1987 Lakers to barely edge those Bulls on offensive performance. I'm not seeing the Pistons anywhere near a G.O.A.T. discussion. Again, the only point is trying to compare Lebron's Finals performance to MJ's doesn't seem like a fair comparison this year.
It's a fun discussion with many factors. I guess it's a bit like apples and oranges. My example, the Pistons, were more defensive-oriented than say, these up-tempo offense-driven Warriors.
I just know that MJ faced a similar challenge to LeBron...going through an entire Pistons team hellbent on stopping him. The difference for LeBron is that he has Irving, Love, and a deeper roster. I am not at all taking away from GS' dominance here.
Irving had a nice game but it wasn't one of this spectacular performance like game 4.....if he were able to explode then they had a chance...but otherwise the GSW is just too much.
I mean any other team that played the GSW would've been swept......
I think for the first time I was disappointed that The Finals were over. I just can't tell if that's because I want to see more insane performances/ability or if I feel an emptiness from a lack of close competition.
06-12-2017, 10:47 PM
KD haters and LeBron fan tears sustain me
