synth19

After 3 quarters, Noah has OWNED Gasol. Hi.

synth19

But don't get me wrong, the Lakers are probably the best team in the Leage, but love the development of the Bulls. This year reminds me of the Bulls in 88 and 89.... good.. but not good enough (YET).

S14 n Tsx

looks like Lakers took this game.

Yumcha

Yep...Bulls have no answer to the 3-pointers. Rose can't do it all. Korver could not hit the broadside of a barn...

asianspec

iTrader: (1)

very entertaining game

synth19

yeah.. sucks.. think Korver was like 0/4.

S14 n Tsx

oh well...

Mizouse

CarbonGray Earl

I don't see where I said or defined 'true' point guard, so I don't really see where there is a problem.

"not sure I would base all my decisions off of a shoot first point guard. At the very best he's a top 5 point guard, considering were talking D-Will, Rondo, CP3, Nash...then Rose."

And to be certain, a truly great point guard will make whatever teammate he has, be it prolific scorers or not, to be better than the sum of their parts. He'll utilize the system he's in to beat teams with his own scoring or with others.

I don't think Rose is any better than those guys yet because he hasn't mastered utilizing his teammates or his system yet. Sure, his athleticism makes up for alot of that, but the point guard position is a mental game and is the most team oriented position in basketball.

Don't get me wrong, he impresses me every time I see him play and he's one of my favorite players. I'm critical cuz I like him and I appreciate the Bulls. He's just not there yet for me though I do assume he'll get there in a year or 2. But beating Derek Fisher off the dribble and throwing an escape pass after a drive isn't all there is to being a point guard or the primary ball handler.

synth19

Lakers..... TOO DEEP. We need another scorer bad.

princelybug

iTrader: (16)

Lake Show FTW.

CarbonGray Earl

^^ Can't wait til they get Bynum back, Pau got manhandled by Noah today (relatively speaking). Noah's very good.

Osamu

haha, haven't been on these forums in a long time. Glad to see someone is representing the clippers. It's definitely tough being a clippers fan. Hopefully times are changing, DTS has shown to be opening the pocketbook a bit more in the last few years, and if anything he's bound to get old eventually

I guess i'm not a typical clipper fan, cause i'll still root for the lakers, and try and catch most of their games too, but rooting for the underdog is always more fun.

I'm still young, and one day it'll all come together for us.

Yumcha

Yep, the Lakers bench killed Chicago's...


Still, I'm happy the Bulls are 2-2 so far on the Circus Trip. This is progress given the in past years...

CarbonGray Earl

^^Shannon Brown has been good off the laker bench.

That said, does anyone want a Machine (Sasha Vujacic)? He's got good hair and we'll throw in Maria Sharapova....we'll throw in a Luke Walton too....

3sge

haha nice!! finally I find another Clippers fan in here. haha I'm not sure how old DTS is but I never thought about him retiring because of his old age. Now I have something to look forward to haha

Yumcha

Bulls probably wish they signed Brown now. :shakehead

synth19

Absolutely! Other then Rose, I hate all of our guards. Wish we still had Heinrick.

S14 n Tsx

Lakers always pick up decent players and turn them into a better players.
I hate Sasha. He is the biggest cry little bitch I ever known in NBA history. lol.

S14 n Tsx

I am starting to wonder why Chicago traded Ben Gordon?

synth19

I think he's doing a great job with who he has to work with. I mean seriously, look at yesterday's game. We really have no one to help Rose other then Noah and Gibson. Everyone else is either a non-factor or inconsistent. Regardless of how he gets his assists, he still gets them. Secondly, Rose is not the drive and "escape pass" type player. When he beats his man and is in the paint, the majority of times he will take it to the hole. Although he's top 10 in the league with assists, his role right now is to be "the man" and the Bulls rely on him for points. Hoping when Boozer comes back, he can finally get some relief and doesn't have to take as many shots as he does. I will take him over any point guard right now, other then maybe CP3.

Yumcha

Kirk was too pricey. And honestly, the Bulls were playing the salary cap game too in hopes of signing one of the BIG TWO AND A HALF (of either LeBron, LeWade, or LeMiniMe)...

So, Gordon could not be kept either.



Obviously, that went south as the LeGroup played everyone and just used the teams as bargaining chips to get together in South Beach.

dom

^ Still LeBitter

synth19

I miss his explosive scoring, but don't miss his poor defense and shot selection. The Bulls always counted on him to take the last minute shot and most of the time it never worked. He just is too small and undersized for a 2. But bottom line is the Bulls and everyone else was waiting for the 2010 free agency circus. Ben was commanding too much money and they couldn't afford to keep him and still try to get Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Johnson, etc.

synth19

Yep, big clusterfck and Le team did not pan out in the end.

S14 n Tsx

That make sense but Chicago ended up with Boozer? rofl. hahahaha.. sorry, but couldn't stop laughing.

synth19

Yeah, Boozer was basically "worse case scenario." But really, low post scoring is one of the biggest weaknesses the Bulls have had, so he helps there. Boozer is a solid 20/10 guy. Just hope he doesn't get into anymore fights with his ex-wife, hits his hand against a wall in rage, and then makes up a story how he tripped over laundry.

Yumcha

Boozer is decent...if he can be healthy. He was definitely Plan B when LeMiniMe (that's Bosh to you guys) decided to take his underused services to Miami.

And in hindsight, I think he's not a bad fit with Noah and Rose. At least his ego is seemingly smaller...

clpassenubye

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Yes please take Sasha and Luke please please.

S14 n Tsx

^^^ is that what happened? lol.

anyway, I agree with you. Chicago does need some help down at the post to create more offensive instead of Rose just doing all the work. I have Boozer in my fantasy team, so I do hope that he can contribute the way he was in Utah.

S14 n Tsx

I'm not saying Boozer is a bad player. I respect his game.... he is one of those few 20/10 guys. I was laughing because Chicago went through all that trouble (salary cap and trades) trying to get Lebron or Bosh, but ended up with Boozer.

One problem with Boozer is his health. If he stays healthy then I see a bright future in Chicago.

Yumcha

Well, the Bulls had to try. LeBron obviously brought the most to the table...and with Rose dishing to him, you could imagine just how crazy that would be.


Oh well. LeBron's loss.

dom

LeBron, LeRose and LeBoozer > the current LeHeat

CarbonGray Earl

Right....and my thinking isn't that far off of yours other than our rank order. Not sure if you're getting the right impression off my posts, as I said, I think he's awesome. We're splitting hairs when we're talking about these guys, and leaving off championship proven talent like Tony Parker, Billups, etc. Rose has come a long way.

I do think he's a drive and/or kick player (if that's less offensive sounding), never said that was bad. But all offense is based of his drives. He's still developing his jumper. He doesn't get those hockey assists show me he can not only be the offense, but run an offense. So to me, he's missing that higher level of understanding his team and relying on himself. And there are decent guys in Chicago, IMO. Anyways, this is splitting hairs, agreed? He's fun enough to just sit back and watch.

synth19

He claims some freak accident at home- He tripped over laundry and broke a metacarpal? Then the next day apparently his wife files for divorce. Highly suspicious. lol

Yumcha

He tripped and ripped some expensive clothes...? Maybe...?

Osamu

for baron davis? haha

S14 n Tsx

I didn't see that coming.

S14 n Tsx

okay, now, miami heat is in deep shit.

wtf is going? 8-7?? wow

CarbonGray Earl

Damn, wish I could watch the PHO-CHI game...