Major League Baseball Thread 2006 Season
03-08-2006, 09:25 AM
#124
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Just read the entire excerpt from from the soon-to-be published book about Bonds and his doping on CNNSI...
Wow. It almost makes me feel kinda sad for the guy...but, almost.
Wow. It almost makes me feel kinda sad for the guy...but, almost.
03-08-2006, 10:26 AM
#127
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Originally Posted by CL Platano
I think they just wanna try and make the guy fail so much it's ridiculous. He is gonna break the record and they should just get over it.
03-08-2006, 12:26 PM
#128
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I don't have an opinion on performance enhancing for baseball but Bonds did NOT cheat. The stuff he was taking was not banned by baseball. Baseball is also at fault due to their lackadaisacal drug policy (before Congress). Just clarifying this but not giving my opinion on the subject.
03-08-2006, 01:03 PM
#129
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
You're kidding right? So, you want a cheater to break one of baseball's most important records...
03-08-2006, 01:05 PM
#130
Originally Posted by Doom878
I don't have an opinion on performance enhancing for baseball but Bonds did NOT cheat. The stuff he was taking was not banned by baseball. Baseball is also at fault due to their lackadaisacal drug policy (before Congress). Just clarifying this but not giving my opinion on the subject.
03-08-2006, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Always Dirty
Steroids were banned by baseball as an illegal drug, generally. He was breaking the law when he took them. So he broke MLB's rules which prohibit illegal drug use, plain and simple. Citing MLB's lack of specificity or failure to enforce is a cop out. We have enough BB apologists in the Bay Area as it it.
03-08-2006, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by evilstorm
and if he went to another country where steroids were legal to get and ingest them was he still breaking mlb rules?
03-08-2006, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Always Dirty
Probably not, unless he was doing it after 2002.
03-08-2006, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by evilstorm
sammy sosa supposedly always ingested his steroids in the dominican republic(his native country) during the offseason
Don't steroids require some sort of schedule while you're taking them? Isn't the offseason too short to get an effective result?
03-08-2006, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by evilstorm
sammy sosa supposedly always ingested his steroids in the dominican republic(his native country) during the offseason
03-08-2006, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
but Bonds did NOT cheat. The stuff he was taking was not banned by baseball.
I bet baseball has no rule disallowing you to shoot other people (lets just say it doesn't hypothetically), even though its against federal law. So using your logic if someone while running to first base pulled out a gun, and shot everyone in his path and ended up scoring, even though he committed a federal crime in order to help his team win, since baseball had no "will not kill people while playing" rule its not cheating and he should be allowed to keep his run?
Or you want a more realistic situation: Should Tonya Harding have been allowed to compete. I bet the USFSA had no rule saying "you're not allowed to hire a goon to take out a fellow skater" even though that also is illegal. So they shouldn't have banned her for getting an illegal edge right because it wasn't outlawed by the USFSA?
03-08-2006, 08:54 PM
#139
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Originally Posted by Slinks
I don't get how committing illegal acts, federal offenses probably, in order to help your baseball game is not considered cheating.
I bet baseball has no rule disallowing you to shoot other people (lets just say it doesn't hypothetically), even though its against federal law. So using your logic if someone while running to first base pulled out a gun, and shot everyone in his path and ended up scoring, even though he committed a federal crime in order to help his team win, since baseball had no "will not kill people while playing" rule its not cheating and he should be allowed to keep his run?
I bet baseball has no rule disallowing you to shoot other people (lets just say it doesn't hypothetically), even though its against federal law. So using your logic if someone while running to first base pulled out a gun, and shot everyone in his path and ended up scoring, even though he committed a federal crime in order to help his team win, since baseball had no "will not kill people while playing" rule its not cheating and he should be allowed to keep his run?
http://www.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/of...s/runner_7.jsp
(a). APPROVED RULING: When a batter becomes a runner on third strike not caught, and starts for his bench or position, he may advance to first base at any time before he enters the bench. To put him out, the defense must tag him or first base before he touches first base. (b) He intentionally interferes with a thrown ball; or hinders a fielder attempting to make a play on a batted ball; A runner who is adjudged to have hindered a fielder who is attempting to make a play on a batted ball is out whether it was intentional or not.
03-08-2006, 08:55 PM
#140
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Originally Posted by Scottman111
Has anybody got their Sports Illustrated with this story yet? I got the email from them but I usually get the magazine right afterwards.
Just wondering if mine is late or not...
Just wondering if mine is late or not...
03-08-2006, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
MLB rule 7.08
http://www.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/of...s/runner_7.jsp
(a). APPROVED RULING: When a batter becomes a runner on third strike not caught, and starts for his bench or position, he may advance to first base at any time before he enters the bench. To put him out, the defense must tag him or first base before he touches first base. (b) He intentionally interferes with a thrown ball; or hinders a fielder attempting to make a play on a batted ball; A runner who is adjudged to have hindered a fielder who is attempting to make a play on a batted ball is out whether it was intentional or not.
http://www.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/of...s/runner_7.jsp
(a). APPROVED RULING: When a batter becomes a runner on third strike not caught, and starts for his bench or position, he may advance to first base at any time before he enters the bench. To put him out, the defense must tag him or first base before he touches first base. (b) He intentionally interferes with a thrown ball; or hinders a fielder attempting to make a play on a batted ball; A runner who is adjudged to have hindered a fielder who is attempting to make a play on a batted ball is out whether it was intentional or not.
too funny
03-09-2006, 02:25 PM
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You should get Sporting News. For the NFL and MLB they have notes for every team every month. This month they're doing a free agent breakdown for every NFL team. It's awesome. 
03-09-2006, 02:29 PM
#151
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Anyone else excited about how the Sox have been doing so far in the WBC?
Ortiz with a few homeruns, Tek with a GS, Adam Stern definitely shooting for a spot in the starting lineup after the US-Canada game...
Ortiz with a few homeruns, Tek with a GS, Adam Stern definitely shooting for a spot in the starting lineup after the US-Canada game...
03-09-2006, 06:05 PM
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I find it interesting that some people are excited about the WBC... I just don't get it...
Timlin is the only team USA pitcher with a win tho'
Timlin is the only team USA pitcher with a win tho'
03-09-2006, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
MLB rule 7.08
http://www.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/of...s/runner_7.jsp
(a). APPROVED RULING: When a batter becomes a runner on third strike not caught, and starts for his bench or position, he may advance to first base at any time before he enters the bench. To put him out, the defense must tag him or first base before he touches first base. (b) He intentionally interferes with a thrown ball; or hinders a fielder attempting to make a play on a batted ball; A runner who is adjudged to have hindered a fielder who is attempting to make a play on a batted ball is out whether it was intentional or not.
http://www.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/of...s/runner_7.jsp
(a). APPROVED RULING: When a batter becomes a runner on third strike not caught, and starts for his bench or position, he may advance to first base at any time before he enters the bench. To put him out, the defense must tag him or first base before he touches first base. (b) He intentionally interferes with a thrown ball; or hinders a fielder attempting to make a play on a batted ball; A runner who is adjudged to have hindered a fielder who is attempting to make a play on a batted ball is out whether it was intentional or not.
Where's Chuck Norris roundhousing Barry Bonds?
03-10-2006, 11:12 AM
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"If I was the opposite gender, I'd be chasing him. I'd be dating him. But I'm not, so I don't. But I'm making the point. This guy's got a ton of personality. He's really a neat guy. The players have enjoyed him from Day 1. He's smart and he's funny. I really appreciate everything about him."
-- Tony La Russa on So Taguchi
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03-10-2006, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Meh. His excuse is at least valid since he can't read or speak English.
03-10-2006, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mc_yanzo
"Beisbol been veddy veddy good to me."
03-10-2006, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
You should get Sporting News. For the NFL and MLB they have notes for every team every month. This month they're doing a free agent breakdown for every NFL team. It's awesome.
very nice!!!
03-10-2006, 02:16 PM
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Hmm I'll have to check out Sporting News. Thanks for the referral guys. 
Oh and I blame Buck Martinez on the U.S. loss to Canada. Why would you put in Al Leiter when there are plenty of other more qualified pitchers to choose from in that situation.
Oh and I blame Buck Martinez on the U.S. loss to Canada. Why would you put in Al Leiter when there are plenty of other more qualified pitchers to choose from in that situation.