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The sizzle in the Steak
^^ She goes through NHL players like Statler goes through bots.
I feel the need...
Originally Posted by Yumchah
...but, I'll say this: I would rather stick my junk into a blender set to high, and afterwards throwing salt on the remains than see Detroit win the Cup...
Let's simply enjoy some great hockey!
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
^^ She goes through NHL players like Statler goes through bots.
The sizzle in the Steak
Originally Posted by Fibonacci
Let's simply enjoy some great hockey!
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What a soap opera in Toronto. Word is that the Leafs asked the Canucks for permission to speak with Dave Nonis. Now speculation is that since Nonis and Burke are best buds, Nonis will hold the fort down in TO until Burke's contract is up in Anaheim next year and he comes over.
Or, Anaheim gets pissed and fires Burke immediately. If Burke did in fact tell Nonis to sign with the Leafs or the Leafs told Burke that they'll bring in Nonis until he can come over, isn't that tampering either way? Insane.
You can't make this stuff up on Young & The Restless.
Or, Anaheim gets pissed and fires Burke immediately. If Burke did in fact tell Nonis to sign with the Leafs or the Leafs told Burke that they'll bring in Nonis until he can come over, isn't that tampering either way? Insane.
You can't make this stuff up on Young & The Restless.
Originally Posted by Yumchah
Well, regardless of the TV network, I'm going to be glued watching the Stars/Wings tilt...but, I'll say this: I would rather stick my junk into a blender set to high, and afterwards throwing salt on the remains than see Detroit win the Cup...
...so...GO STARS!
...so...GO STARS!
GAWD, I should have stopped with the words junk and blender.
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Bowman was never a good GM. No chance.
Is Burke really worth all this hassle? A man that had one good year in Anaheim with a team mostly built by Bryan Murry does not deserve all this attention IMO. What did his Vancouver teams ever do? He was too stubborn or dumb to ever go out and get a decent goalie. I don't see the hype.
I'd go out and get Doug Armstrong and call it a day.
Melrose? As long as Doug Gilmour is around the Leafs that will never happen. And why the hell didn't he ever get back into coaching?
Is Burke really worth all this hassle? A man that had one good year in Anaheim with a team mostly built by Bryan Murry does not deserve all this attention IMO. What did his Vancouver teams ever do? He was too stubborn or dumb to ever go out and get a decent goalie. I don't see the hype.
I'd go out and get Doug Armstrong and call it a day.
Melrose? As long as Doug Gilmour is around the Leafs that will never happen. And why the hell didn't he ever get back into coaching?
Interesting. Interesting.
Originally Posted by dom
Melrose? As long as Doug Gilmour is around the Leafs that will never happen. And why the hell didn't he ever get back into coaching?
^^^I've been wondering that for 15 yrs now since he led LA to their first Stanley cup final in 1993 and got a bad break w/ the McSorley "stick" call and those gay ass Canadiens took the cup;he did all in his first year too. So he shouldn't have stopped coaching imo.
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Originally Posted by dom
Bowman was never a good GM. No chance.
Is Burke really worth all this hassle? A man that had one good year in Anaheim with a team mostly built by Bryan Murry does not deserve all this attention IMO. What did his Vancouver teams ever do? He was too stubborn or dumb to ever go out and get a decent goalie. I don't see the hype.
I'd go out and get Doug Armstrong and call it a day.
Melrose? As long as Doug Gilmour is around the Leafs that will never happen. And why the hell didn't he ever get back into coaching?
Is Burke really worth all this hassle? A man that had one good year in Anaheim with a team mostly built by Bryan Murry does not deserve all this attention IMO. What did his Vancouver teams ever do? He was too stubborn or dumb to ever go out and get a decent goalie. I don't see the hype.
I'd go out and get Doug Armstrong and call it a day.
Melrose? As long as Doug Gilmour is around the Leafs that will never happen. And why the hell didn't he ever get back into coaching?
After that he was just a guy with a brilliant mullet.
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Ya, he's another good one. But for some reason, the Leafs seem hell bent on Burke.
I'd go after, in this order.
Ken Holland. - Likely signing an extension.
Lou Lamerello - Not gonna happen
David Poile
Bob Gainey - Not gonna happen
Jim Nill - Leafs want someone who has experience as a GM.
Doug Armstrong - Built some pretty goo Dallas teams
Neil Smith
Brian Burke
I'd go after, in this order.
Ken Holland. - Likely signing an extension.
Lou Lamerello - Not gonna happen
David Poile
Bob Gainey - Not gonna happen
Jim Nill - Leafs want someone who has experience as a GM.
Doug Armstrong - Built some pretty goo Dallas teams
Neil Smith
Brian Burke
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Howabout Mike Keenan...? *ducks*
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Rocky goes "Canadian"
My apologies in advance if this has already been posted...
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/nhl...?urn=nhl,79486
It now appears Penguins Fans are plotting to done a Penguins sweater on Rocky? Now see I live not too far from Philly and this is very tempting :o ) There was even a listing on craigslist promising tickets to the game if they pulled this off!
If someone would be willing to toss in a jersey for the cause I'll be more than happy to do the labor :o ) Putting a jersey on rocky would obviously mean ruining the jersey since you have to the the sleeves off.
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news...y_statue_.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/nhl...?urn=nhl,79486
It now appears Penguins Fans are plotting to done a Penguins sweater on Rocky? Now see I live not too far from Philly and this is very tempting :o ) There was even a listing on craigslist promising tickets to the game if they pulled this off!
If someone would be willing to toss in a jersey for the cause I'll be more than happy to do the labor :o ) Putting a jersey on rocky would obviously mean ruining the jersey since you have to the the sleeves off.
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news...y_statue_.html
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Keenan's days are numbered. His act wears thin pretty fast these days.
Eddie-O was one of my favorite Leafs growing up. So many good memories.
Which really tells you how desperate Leaf fans are for good memories.
Keenan's days are numbered. His act wears thin pretty fast these days.
Eddie-O was one of my favorite Leafs growing up. So many good memories.
Which really tells you how desperate Leaf fans are for good memories.
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Originally Posted by dom
Ya, he's another good one. But for some reason, the Leafs seem hell bent on Burke.
I'd go after, in this order.
Ken Holland. - Likely signing an extension.
Lou Lamerello - Not gonna happen
David Poile
Bob Gainey - Not gonna happen
Jim Nill - Leafs want someone who has experience as a GM.
Doug Armstrong - Built some pretty goo Dallas teams
Neil Smith
Brian Burke
I'd go after, in this order.
Ken Holland. - Likely signing an extension.
Lou Lamerello - Not gonna happen
David Poile
Bob Gainey - Not gonna happen
Jim Nill - Leafs want someone who has experience as a GM.
Doug Armstrong - Built some pretty goo Dallas teams
Neil Smith
Brian Burke
If I were Nonis, I'd be really hesitant to take the GM job in Toronto...he'd likely have no power to make any decisions until Burke's contract is up. He'd be another JFJ until the Leafs find who they want.
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I think Canucks ownership had there mind made up on Gillis before they fired Nonis. They moved fast.
Unless Nonis has an arrangement with Burke? I think Nonis is bright enough to know that he has zero chance of landing a job as a GM in this league for some time. So taking what is essentially the Assistant GM job in Toronto would be a good move.
Unless Nonis has an arrangement with Burke? I think Nonis is bright enough to know that he has zero chance of landing a job as a GM in this league for some time. So taking what is essentially the Assistant GM job in Toronto would be a good move.
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Originally Posted by dom
Ya, he's another good one. But for some reason, the Leafs seem hell bent on Burke.
I'd go after, in this order.
Ken Holland. - Likely signing an extension.
Lou Lamerello - Not gonna happen
David Poile
Bob Gainey - Not gonna happen
Jim Nill - Leafs want someone who has experience as a GM.
Doug Armstrong - Built some pretty goo Dallas teams
Neil Smith
Brian Burke
I'd go after, in this order.
Ken Holland. - Likely signing an extension.
Lou Lamerello - Not gonna happen
David Poile
Bob Gainey - Not gonna happen
Jim Nill - Leafs want someone who has experience as a GM.
Doug Armstrong - Built some pretty goo Dallas teams
Neil Smith
Brian Burke
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Originally Posted by dom
Unless Nonis has an arrangement with Burke? I think Nonis is bright enough to know that he has zero chance of landing a job as a GM in this league for some time. So taking what is essentially the Assistant GM job in Toronto would be a good move.
For who? Nonis? Surely not the Leafs or Leafs fans.
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Nonis is a bright guy, which leads me to believe why would he go back to being an assistant GM when he had the top job?
Nonis was (in my opinion) unfairly fired by the Canucks...I like to see any team try to cobble together a winning season with your top 5 defensemen injured at any given point in time. Even the mighty Red Wings went through a losing period when they had injuries to their top 4 defensemen.
It does seem like the Leafs of recent history like using ex-Canuck management/coaches...Pat Quinn, Rick Ley, maybe Dave Nonis & Brian Burke?
Nonis was (in my opinion) unfairly fired by the Canucks...I like to see any team try to cobble together a winning season with your top 5 defensemen injured at any given point in time. Even the mighty Red Wings went through a losing period when they had injuries to their top 4 defensemen.
It does seem like the Leafs of recent history like using ex-Canuck management/coaches...Pat Quinn, Rick Ley, maybe Dave Nonis & Brian Burke?
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
For who? Nonis? Surely not the Leafs or Leafs fans.
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Interesting...the Laughs have contacted the Sharks for the availability of Doug Wilson for the GM posting.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=2371...=topStory_main
To summarize: The Sharks -ed at Toronto's request and slammed the door.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=2371...=topStory_main
To summarize: The Sharks -ed at Toronto's request and slammed the door.
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That being said, Wilson is a good GM.
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
That being said, Wilson is a good regular season GM.
He hasn't quite figured out the formula for winning in the playoffs, where it counts.
Having said that I'd have no problem with him as the makebeliefs GM.
Now, time to call Detroit. But since they'll be playing til June the search continues.
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Originally Posted by dom
Fixed.
He hasn't quite figured out the formula for winning in the playoffs, where it counts.
He hasn't quite figured out the formula for winning in the playoffs, where it counts.
I see Ron Wilson "leaving" SJ as we need a coach who can fire a team up and get a new game plan in there to effectively utilize the vast amount of talent the sharks have in their main team and farm system.
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Originally Posted by Lister00169
Honestly, I think it's more of Ron Wilson's (the coach) issue in the playoffs. The GM is not supposed to change the team strategy, line ups, etc. during the playoffs - the coach is ultimately responsible for that aspect.
I see Ron Wilson "leaving" SJ as we need a coach who can fire a team up and get a new game plan in there to effectively utilize the vast amount of talent the sharks have in their main team and farm system.
I see Ron Wilson "leaving" SJ as we need a coach who can fire a team up and get a new game plan in there to effectively utilize the vast amount of talent the sharks have in their main team and farm system.
Tell that to the Ottawa Senators. I'm not saying your wrong. But IMO both coach and GM should equally share blame. Its nearly impossible to pin-point the problem. Ron Wilson has led a team to the cup finals before. Whether he was given the tools in SJ can be debated.
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I agree with both sides. But I also think it's hit or miss.
Personally I thought Campbell played liked shit and I was expecting him to put them on a different level.
Personally I thought Campbell played liked shit and I was expecting him to put them on a different level.
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Maybe the Bruins were onto something when they traded Joe Thorton. I've pretty well watched every Shark game this playoff season and I must say that Thorton, Cheecho, Campbell, Marleau, Michaluk and company were very, very invisible.
Kudos for Roenick for resurrecting his career, but you know when you're in trouble when a 38 year old is your best player.
Kudos for Roenick for resurrecting his career, but you know when you're in trouble when a 38 year old is your best player.
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Originally Posted by TSXforme
Kudos for Roenick for resurrecting his career, but you know when you're in trouble when a 38 year old is your best player.
How about a 40 year old like Roberts?
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
How about a 40 year old like Roberts?
But the thing is the Pen's star players are noticeable in the games they've played in, which is more than what is said about the Shark's stars players.
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Originally Posted by TSXforme
Roberts played only 4 games in the playoffs. He looked good until he got hurt.
But the thing is the Pen's star players are noticeable in the games they've played in, which is more than what is said about the Shark's stars players.
But the thing is the Pen's star players are noticeable in the games they've played in, which is more than what is said about the Shark's stars players.
I know. I was only kidding.
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Originally Posted by imj0257
DAMMIT. the stars need to stop giving up so many godadm powerplays! That is the only reason the red wings won last night. JEEZ!