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where did i compare patric to patrick?

he's a good 2nd liner no doubt. kessel is better but I think hornqvist is better than sharpie.

black label

This is something that constantly gets ignored. If Sid is so great, why do they need "special" players for him to be great? It's not a Pitt issue either, its come up in the past 2 Olympics as well. The best players make their line mates better yet Canada and Pitt are always looking for someone who can play with Sid.

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hockey is more of a team sport than basketball, for example. you need complementary players to have a decent line. one guy can't play 60 minutes like Lebron.

dom

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also, in the late 80s early 90s, Mario made Rob Brown a 30-40 goal scorer just by the way Mario plays. The game isn't like that anymore, you don't see as many players riding coattails.

Yumcha

You aren't. But, you're also saying that your team has Hornkwist and so, don't need help in the elite wingers available.



And dude, to borrow a phrase from the departed Moog: Put down the bong. Sharp has played on TEAM CANADA on the Olympics. Won gold. 3-time Cup winner...one of the CORE of Chicago. A leader. Heck, he was skilled enough to win MVP at the stupid All-Star game (this counts for zilch IMO). Very responsible defensively and versatile enough to play center.

I can keep going.

Yumcha

And the : Sharp is ONE year removed from leading a STACKED Hawks team in scoring.

Hornkwist ever do that? How is that guy better than Patrick Sharp?

black label

Nice deflection.

How come we never hear about Chicago needing to find someone play with Toews or Boston looking for someone who can play with Bergeron?

dom

@ BL's sig.

Although you may not yet realize it, you basically are now Toronto. Other teams and cities are laughing at you behind your back wondering WTF your GM is doing. Its going to be a long re-build.

Yumcha

Comparison-wise, Sharp is pretty much Jeff Carter. That's what the team getting him is receiving...

The only reason why Chicago will lose in this trade regardless is because every team and their srikas know that the Hawks are desperate to unload salary and also cannot take BACK salary...

In other words: Cap hell.

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toews has kane. and hossa. and sharp. and saad. tons of secondary scoring. who do the pens have. malkin and crosby are on different lines, kunitz is almost 40, dupuis missed all of last season and perron was good for two weeks.

sharp has been in the league full time 12 years. he sucked on philly. hornqvist put up better numbers in nashville than sharp put up with philly, and has only been around 6 years. wait another season or two and you'll see his stats go up.

Yumcha

Sharp sucked in Philly because he was never given a chance, dude. He was a young, near rookie when the Flyers swapped prospects with Chicago in arguably one of the worst trades in recent NHL history.

Dude, are you serious? I am not trying to be biased about Sharp but you're out of your mind to think Hornqvist is better.

dom

Hornquist is a great player.






















Said no one ever.

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five straight 20 goal seasons, he's not as shitty as you guys are making him out to be, and that's playing on nashville.

yea sharp has the cups and olympics but that's more of a being on good teams not as much as a reflection of his play... ok so five years ago I would have taken sharp, but now, and moving forward, give me hornqvist.

Yumcha

4-time 30+ goal scorer who averages around a 0.71 PPG clip...versus Hornqvist...a player who has never passed 60 points and scored 30 goals ONCE.

The latter: again...3 time Cup winner who is CORE player. NOT a lower-line ROLE player...but, KEY player to the Hawks attack and leadership...Sharp also can kill penalties and take draws.

Versus a pretty good Swedish player who can score but is not nearly as good 2-way player and as fast.

K, tell ME to put down the bong. What am I missing?

Yumcha

Rounder, who here is saying Hornqvist is SH*TTY? Have you read anything I wrote? He's GOOD.


Say it again: GOOD. GOOD.

GOOD.


GOOD as in say, decent Top 6 player. But, look at teams...there are Top 6 players and then, there are Top 6 players. Patrick Sharp and KESSEL are the latter. They are part of the more elite group VERSUS, your beloved Hornqvist, which we AGREE is good...but, is not an ELITE player.

Yumcha

Whatever. Per Rounder (not 97Ack), Sharp is an overrated player and NOT a fit in Pittsburgh.

As usual, I'm wrong. So is dom. Moog, you're right.

Yumcha

Wow, did not see this coming: Saad traded to Columbus...

Blackhawks trade Saad to Blue Jackets - Article - TSN

e30cabrio

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Er no, I don't disappear.

e30cabrio

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I'm saad.

e30cabrio

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The Rangers did not get him.

black label

Ok, so how does that explain the olympic team? We still don't hear about how's going to play with Toews. Is Crosby talented, sure, so is kessel but he doesn't make the players around him better either.

black label

I just assumed you gave me the first sig, in hindsight it was probably ack. If it was yumcha, it would be rife with misspelled words.

dom

You assumed correctly.

black label

I think it may need a rewrite. Maybe, "In Sweeney I'm not so sure, but I thank the old Norse Gods and the ghost of Lord Stanley that we aren't Toronto."

dom

Let's see what the standings say.

black label

Standings don't say anything, they're just numbers on a page man

Yumcha

The Pens also were in on the bidding to bring Saad back to Pittsburgh since he's from the area. 22 year-old players who are defensively responsible and can also score like that do not grow on trees...

Sad to see Hawks let him go but apparently, he was going to get an offer-sheet and Chicago did not want 3 draft picks and matching the apparently $6.5M per year hit was too much.

So, had to trade him. Anisimov is decent and Dano seems to be the wildcard...he could be really good.

Yumcha

So, Deano's greatest signing ever (he never signs a bad contract), Richards, was apparently the subject of an OxyContin investigation.

Richards was held for a number of hours at Emerson border crossing in Manitoba 2 weeks ago.





OxyContin is obviously code-speak for Finlandian refugees.

black label

I watched the classic film "The Warriors" the other night (Warriors come out to play-yay *clink clink clink*) when I realized it was ridiculously progressive in it's portrayal of race and sport. You got white guys with base ball bats, white guys on roller skates, white guys with guns, but when all the black guys show up at the end nearly half of them are carrying hockey sticks and the majority of them are goalie sticks.

Way ahead of their time.

e30cabrio

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Perhaps Subban owes it a debt?

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shocked at Saad trade... pens should have drafted him, like you said he is from PGH, you would think they scout their local region.

today is day 1 of free agency, should be good.

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looking forward to getting rid of Scuderi, Kunitz, Sutter and Martin.

bring in Semin to play with Malkin and Vermette to play 3rd line center.

97BlackAckCL

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I never said that Hornqvist was better than Kessel

I said Horny goes to the net and that's the kind of winger that Sid needs

You guys crack me up

97BlackAckCL

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Keep dreaming, at least 1 of those 3 (not counting Martin) will be here next year

Semin is a center, Malkin doesn't like playing wing, plus they already got a Russian wing to play with Malkin

97BlackAckCL

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97BlackAckCL

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imj0257

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Any thoughts on Lehtonen and Niemi sharing the net? Maybe looking to shop Lehtonen?

97BlackAckCL

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Definitely was an interesting pickup, unless Niemi is ready to be a backup, Dallas may be looking for a change

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KESSEL?!?!?!?! ship the 40 goalsssssssssssssssssss