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#441
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Goddamn I nearly shit myself when I saw those uppercuts.
#442
Moderator
Oh man, after seeing Berto, I would love to see him square up against Manny. It seems Berto is more of a striker. This is good because Manny is one also. Berto's defense isn't great so Manny might have an advantage over that. But I think Berto's uppercut and his strength will give Manny some problems
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#443
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Would make for a great fight.
#444
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Berto is more qualified then Marquez at welterweight. And Pac made it clear , theres no use for him to drop back down to lightweight. Berto is a champion at welterweight, so if anyone will be a good match for Pac, its Berto.Marquez got heavier and slower and didnt bring his power with him at welterweight. Atleast Mosley hurted mayweather twice in his fight. I doubt Mayweather will even have the balls to take on Berto.
So Berto is good, but not proven against true champions or A class level fighters like JMM.
BTW, Roach would create a game plan to dismantle Berto's predictable style, just watching the best of berto clip, I can see freddy smiling the whole time.
November 2010 has been one of the most exciting months in boxing that i can remember in a long time, now it's time for Bradley and Alexander to settle the score while Kahn and Maidana face off. I'm calling bradley to beat Devon in a snoozefest, and Kahn to late round TKO Maidana.
Last edited by rondog; 11-29-2010 at 09:52 PM.
#445
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#446
Three Wheelin'
Out of all these I would rather watch PAC vs Berto, even tho Berto is relatively almost unknown outside the boxing world, in addition Berto has been fighting B and C class fighters. I remember earlier this year if it wasn't for the disaster in Haiti, his biggest fight was Mosley. I thought that would've been worth it.
I doubt a Marquez fight will push through due to so many variables, he only attracted less than 5000 people in his last fight, his demands are crazy even though he's the one doing the chasing. A couple years ago they offered him close to a million for a rematch with PAC only to turn it down and fight a lesser known Chris John in Indonesia for $50K, Marquez looked bad vs Mayweather. IMO Marquez should work his way up to get to PAC. Basically JMM has nothing to offer even though he gave PAC a hell of troubles with his style but at this point with the way PAC is, I doubt this fight will last under 5 rounds.
A Mosley fight will yield the most $$$, but I don't think it would be as competitive as a JMM fight. Mosley is too old, almost 40yrs old...the "washed up fighter" excuse will be heard again.
Sergio is too big, I don't think PAC will be willing to move up that high in weight. He had troubles making 147 on his fight with Margarito. I also don't think he's willing to risk that much for a lower reward.
I'd say he's better off with Berto or Mayweather.
I doubt a Marquez fight will push through due to so many variables, he only attracted less than 5000 people in his last fight, his demands are crazy even though he's the one doing the chasing. A couple years ago they offered him close to a million for a rematch with PAC only to turn it down and fight a lesser known Chris John in Indonesia for $50K, Marquez looked bad vs Mayweather. IMO Marquez should work his way up to get to PAC. Basically JMM has nothing to offer even though he gave PAC a hell of troubles with his style but at this point with the way PAC is, I doubt this fight will last under 5 rounds.
A Mosley fight will yield the most $$$, but I don't think it would be as competitive as a JMM fight. Mosley is too old, almost 40yrs old...the "washed up fighter" excuse will be heard again.
Sergio is too big, I don't think PAC will be willing to move up that high in weight. He had troubles making 147 on his fight with Margarito. I also don't think he's willing to risk that much for a lower reward.
I'd say he's better off with Berto or Mayweather.
#447
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Out of all these I would rather watch PAC vs Berto, even tho Berto is relatively almost unknown outside the boxing world, in addition Berto has been fighting B and C class fighters. I remember earlier this year if it wasn't for the disaster in Haiti, his biggest fight was Mosley. I thought that would've been worth it.
I doubt a Marquez fight will push through due to so many variables, he only attracted less than 5000 people in his last fight, his demands are crazy even though he's the one doing the chasing. A couple years ago they offered him close to a million for a rematch with PAC only to turn it down and fight a lesser known Chris John in Indonesia for $50K, Marquez looked bad vs Mayweather. IMO Marquez should work his way up to get to PAC. Basically JMM has nothing to offer even though he gave PAC a hell of troubles with his style but at this point with the way PAC is, I doubt this fight will last under 5 rounds.
A Mosley fight will yield the most $$$, but I don't think it would be as competitive as a JMM fight. Mosley is too old, almost 40yrs old...the "washed up fighter" excuse will be heard again.
Sergio is too big, I don't think PAC will be willing to move up that high in weight. He had troubles making 147 on his fight with Margarito. I also don't think he's willing to risk that much for a lower reward.
I'd say he's better off with Berto or Mayweather.
I doubt a Marquez fight will push through due to so many variables, he only attracted less than 5000 people in his last fight, his demands are crazy even though he's the one doing the chasing. A couple years ago they offered him close to a million for a rematch with PAC only to turn it down and fight a lesser known Chris John in Indonesia for $50K, Marquez looked bad vs Mayweather. IMO Marquez should work his way up to get to PAC. Basically JMM has nothing to offer even though he gave PAC a hell of troubles with his style but at this point with the way PAC is, I doubt this fight will last under 5 rounds.
A Mosley fight will yield the most $$$, but I don't think it would be as competitive as a JMM fight. Mosley is too old, almost 40yrs old...the "washed up fighter" excuse will be heard again.
Sergio is too big, I don't think PAC will be willing to move up that high in weight. He had troubles making 147 on his fight with Margarito. I also don't think he's willing to risk that much for a lower reward.
I'd say he's better off with Berto or Mayweather.
Berto has already been evaluated by bob Arum and Top Rank to be too unknown.
Marquez's has all the points you mentioned going against him, but the biggest issue holding a 3rd fight back is Golden Boy Promotions Schaefer and Oscar De La Hoya. Top Rank and GBP are bitter rivals and reall hate eachother, always slinging insults back and forth. Thats the reason Mosley left Golden Boy, and look what it's landing him, the biggest fight of his carreer!
From an enthusiasts POV, I like Marquez and Berto, but from a finacial POV, Mosely is the biggest draw among the general public who don't follow boxing like us. They just hear two names and say, yeah, i'll order that PPV.
#448
Three Wheelin'
I think Pac will get more buy with Berto then with Clottey. Plus Berto is undefeated and a welterweight champ. That sounds good to advertise.
Pac is red hot right now, some people will just buy PPV because its Pac, and Pac will never give you are boring fight.
I dont think people want to see Pac destroy the fighters that Mayweather already beaten with a decision.
No disrespect to Marquez, cause he is a great champion and on the top 5 pound for pound list. But he dont belong in the welterweight division. Excused my pun, but he's no Manny Paquaio. If Marquez do fight Manny, I predict that he wont make it pass the 5th round.
Mosley is getting old, he can do good in the 1st few rounds like he did against Mayweather. He even rocked Mayweather twice. But his age got the best of him and got tired through the later rounds.
until then, we will have to wait.
Pac is red hot right now, some people will just buy PPV because its Pac, and Pac will never give you are boring fight.
I dont think people want to see Pac destroy the fighters that Mayweather already beaten with a decision.
No disrespect to Marquez, cause he is a great champion and on the top 5 pound for pound list. But he dont belong in the welterweight division. Excused my pun, but he's no Manny Paquaio. If Marquez do fight Manny, I predict that he wont make it pass the 5th round.
Mosley is getting old, he can do good in the 1st few rounds like he did against Mayweather. He even rocked Mayweather twice. But his age got the best of him and got tired through the later rounds.
until then, we will have to wait.
#449
Three Wheelin'
I doubt a Marquez fight will push through due to so many variables, he only attracted less than 5000 people in his last fight, his demands are crazy even though he's the one doing the chasing. A couple years ago they offered him close to a million for a rematch with PAC only to turn it down and fight a lesser known Chris John in Indonesia for $50K, Marquez looked bad vs Mayweather.
I see why Marquez is really pushing for this fight, win or lose, he will win big in the money column. lol
#451
Three Wheelin'
Oh god.... I hope Pac retires Mosley for good. but being as nice guy Pac is, he will go easy on Mosley when he knows Mosley is getting seriously hurt.
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_yl...ygarbage122110
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_yl...ygarbage122110
#454
Three Wheelin'
I will enjoy seeing Pac dismantling Mosley, thats for sure. I'd pay to see that.
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Hmmm idk guys .. this fight with mosely in my eyes is the most dangerous fight for pac. mosely also got the speed and power to pull the upset. lets just hope pac trains harder for this fight with no distractions
#458
Three Wheelin'
so Maynever is actually done...
http://www.examiner.com/internationa...elevision-show
And I read somewhere the Pac vs SSM fight has sold 16,000 tickets already!!
http://www.examiner.com/internationa...elevision-show
And I read somewhere the Pac vs SSM fight has sold 16,000 tickets already!!
#459
Three Wheelin'
LOL at the reporter calling manny hairstyle a "Beiber" Hair style. When did that little booger "owns" that hair style? lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8FnYPLW_pc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8FnYPLW_pc
#460
Three Wheelin'
so Maynever is actually done...
http://www.examiner.com/internationa...elevision-show
And I read somewhere the Pac vs SSM fight has sold 16,000 tickets already!!
http://www.examiner.com/internationa...elevision-show
And I read somewhere the Pac vs SSM fight has sold 16,000 tickets already!!
#462
Three Wheelin'
lol...forget floyd! its the same crap all the time nothing new.
but for some other news even PLAYBOY followed Pacquiao for his meeting with President Obama.
http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2011/02/1...nt-that-fight/
but for some other news even PLAYBOY followed Pacquiao for his meeting with President Obama.
http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2011/02/1...nt-that-fight/
#464
Three Wheelin'
update on that...
http://www.nowboxing.com/2011/04/pac...e-truth/17395/
Although I think the mega fight will never happen, I hope floyd gets destroyed in court....oh yeah did anyone catch his recent violation with the IRS? he owes another $3.4 million with them....how can this asswipe call himself an American like the rest of us...we pay our damn taxes!
http://www.nowboxing.com/2011/04/pac...e-truth/17395/
Although I think the mega fight will never happen, I hope floyd gets destroyed in court....oh yeah did anyone catch his recent violation with the IRS? he owes another $3.4 million with them....how can this asswipe call himself an American like the rest of us...we pay our damn taxes!
#465
Three Wheelin'
Eric Morales vs Marcos Maidana...heard it was a good close fight. I didnt see it but saw pictures of Eric's eye.
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/spo...rity-decision/
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/spo...rity-decision/
#466
Three Wheelin'
update...LOL! How stupid is Floyd, imagine if Manny plays politics with his close friend Mr. Reid (Las Vegas Senator), Floyd will really get some jail time!
http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports...ve-guards-shot
http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports...ve-guards-shot
#468
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
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#470
Three Wheelin'
update...LOL! How stupid is Floyd, imagine if Manny plays politics with his close friend Mr. Reid (Las Vegas Senator), Floyd will really get some jail time!
http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports...ve-guards-shot
http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports...ve-guards-shot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76g-o...eature=related
#471
Three Wheelin'
#472
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
I don't know why you guys are hating on Mosely. It's almost as asinine as kicking someone's ass and saying it wasn't your 'A' game.
#473
Three Wheelin'
I think it was worst than the Clottey fight...but not really blaming Mosley since both fighters had so much respect/sportsmanship for each other. I liked how there was no trash talking in press conferences leading to the fight. But I still wanted Mosley to at least exchange or at least slugged it out for 2-3 rounds. But you know what is even sadder after seeing how the Manny vs Shane fight was? A fight with Mayweather would be much much much more boring fight.
#474
Three Wheelin'
I'm pretty sure hardcore boxing fans already knew Floyd is ducking pack and whoever "high risk-low reward" fight was presented infront of him....but damn..he does it again. If this fight does get finalized I wonder how much over the contracted weight will he come in at.
http://www.proboxing-fans.com/maywea...-again_050911/
http://www.proboxing-fans.com/maywea...-again_050911/
#475
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
#476
Three Wheelin'
I think it was worst than the Clottey fight...but not really blaming Mosley since both fighters had so much respect/sportsmanship for each other. I liked how there was no trash talking in press conferences leading to the fight. But I still wanted Mosley to at least exchange or at least slugged it out for 2-3 rounds. But you know what is even sadder after seeing how the Manny vs Shane fight was? A fight with Mayweather would be much much much more boring fight.
Mayweather vs Pacman will be more of a boring fight then shane vs Pacman.
Marquez vs Pacman will be awesome to watch. Marquez has too much mexican pride to run away from Pacman.
#477
Three Wheelin'
#478
Three Wheelin'
it just shows who's the number E-Thug ever....from posting videos and rants about Manny Pacquiao to nut hugging Justin Bieber to watching Lady Gaga concert instead of a fight...its none other than the non tax paying trash talker Floyd Mayneverrrr
#480
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
true.. even if he did win.. he'd still be 'misunderstood' and the American & Filipino people would still love Pacquiao.