Legend2TL

https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motora...151959441.html



Gotta love the Kimster

vwong

Didn't realize that I had the wrong link, here's the F1 site.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...4/7/16070.html

Chief F1 Fan

big shock

http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227...s-bad-attitude

Mugen.Justice

I could see that happening, being signed by one of THE most prestigious teams in F1.


I was pretty indifferent when it was announced that he got the seat. Wasn't a big fan of him during the season. However, I actually did feel a tiny bit bad for him when he was cut. I'm okay with it though - K-Mag strikes me as an equally hungry driver, but at least is humble.

Chief F1 Fan

I agree Mugen. Perez is a good driver just highly inconsistent.

Legend2TL

Didn't know Perez was such a d***head at McLaren. Woulda thought that given such a opportunity he'd try to fit in.

Remember when Button came to McLaren and many outsiders thought he'd have a hard time fitting into the team with Hamilton there and he had a old reputation as lacking work ethic. Just the opposite occurred, he got along very well with Hamilton and from I've read is well liked within McLaren.

Chief F1 Fan

best thing about Jense, he's a NICE guy-always it seems. When driver's personalities change as they become more successful (read: JV) I loathe them and wish them nothing but th worst of luck no matter who they are driving for.

F-C

Hockenheim FP1:

Times
01 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m19.131s 29 laps
02 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m19.196s +0.065s 25 laps
03 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m19.423s +0.292s 21 laps
04 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull 1m19.697s +0.566s 27 laps
05 Jenson Button McLaren 1m19.833s +0.702s 24 laps
06 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1m20.097s +0.966s 28 laps
07 Kevin Magnussen McLaren 1m20.105s +0.974s 32 laps
08 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1m20.210s +1.079s 21 laps
09 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso 1m20.337s +1.206s 28 laps
10 Adrian Sutil Sauber 1m20.505s +1.374s 18 laps
11 Felipe Massa Williams 1m20.542s +1.411s 19 laps
12 Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso 1m20.586s +1.455s 23 laps
13 Nico Hulkenberg Force India 1m20.592s +1.461s 22 laps
14 Sergio Perez Force India 1m20.598s +1.467s 24 laps
15 Susie Wolff Williams 1m20.769s +1.638s 22 laps
16 Giedo van der Garde Sauber 1m20.782s +1.651s 23 laps
17 Romain Grosjean Lotus 1m21.603s +2.472s 20 laps
18 Pastor Maldonado Lotus 1m21.854s +2.723s 30 lapsb
19. Kamui Kobayashi Caterham 1m22.572s +3.441s 31 laps
20 Jules Bianchi Marussia 1m22.982s +3.851s 24 laps
21 Marcus Ericsson Caterham 1m23.256s +4.125s 35 laps
22 Max Chilton Marussia 1m23.299s +4.168s 22 laps

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FP2:

POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:18.341
2. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:18.265
3. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Renault 1:18.443
4. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:18.887
5. Kevin Magnussen Denmark McLaren-Mercedes 1:18.960
6. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:19.024
7. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:19.221
8. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:19.248
9. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:19.329
10. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:19.385
11. Adrian Sutil Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:19.417
12. Daniil Kvyat Russia Toro Rosso-Renault 1:19.452
13. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:19.581
14. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:19.593
15. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Renault 1:19.760
16. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Lotus-Renault 1:20.158
17. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:20.358
18. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:20.504
19. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Ferrari 1:21.328
20. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Caterham-Renault 1:21.870
21. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Ferrari 1:21.898
22. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Caterham-Renault 1:23.728

Chief F1 Fan

I'd never put these up if he hadn't walked away unscathed . . .

Legend2TL

Good to see Williams again on the podium, Pat Symonds and the rest of the engineers have produced the 2nd best MB powerplant chassis.

West6MT

Holy shit wtf @ the pics ^^ (I haven't watched the race yet)

Chief F1 Fan

sorry for spoiler Steve

West6MT

No worries, I'd looked at the results already etc. Things are not spoiled at all. I guess what I wrote makes it sound like the surprise was ruined or whatever. I just meant that the images make it look like it was a crazy crash/incident. Glad he walked away ok. He's had some serious shunts the last few years.

F-C

Raikkonen sandwich. They were lucky that all three managed to continue since all three cars touched.

Chief F1 Fan

Definitely the roughest race of the year. Lots of wheel banging going on

Mugen.Justice

But definitely exciting! (also surprised the Button-Hamilton contact didn't result in a worse collision)




Sucks about those half-empty grandstands...haha.

F-C

Hungaroring FP1:

POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:25.814
2. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:25.997
3. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:26.421
4. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:26.872
5. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:27.220
6. Kevin Magnussen Denmark McLaren-Mercedes 1:27.357
7. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Renault 1:27.683
8. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Renault 1:27.782
9. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:27.804
10. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:27.960
11. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:27.967
12. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:28.101
13. Daniil Kvyat Russia Toro Rosso-Renault 1:28.208
14. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Lotus-Renault 1:28.266
15. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:28.330
16. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:28.376
17. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:28.593
18. Adrian Sutil Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:29.025
19. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Caterham-Renault 1:30.363
20. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Caterham-Renault 1:30.892
21. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Ferrari 1:31.004
22. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Ferrari 1:31.248

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FP2:

POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:24.482
2. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:24.720
3. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:25.111
4. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:25.437
5. Kevin Magnussen Denmark McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.580
6. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:25.730
7. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Renault 1:25.983
8. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:25.999
9. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.234
10. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:26.402
11. Daniil Kvyat Russia Toro Rosso-Renault 1:26.689
12. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Renault 1:26.703
13. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:26.789
14. Adrian Sutil Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:26.919
15. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:27.013
16. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Lotus-Renault 1:27.019
17. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:27.021
18. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:27.480
19. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Caterham-Renault 1:28.370
20. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Ferrari 1:28.469
21. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Ferrari 1:28.586
22. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Caterham-Renault 1:29.036

icy2

my gawd!!!! I know of no one who has worst luck on the grid than Lewis Hamilton right now!

Chief F1 Fan

you haven't been watching Lotus then . . .

icy2

LOL Chief, they running neck and neck right now......although Lotus luck could be karma for signing Maldonado

Aman

Frustrating season to be a Hamilton fan, that's for sure.

Chief F1 Fan

I just remembered I picked the dickhead to win this year in the Fantasy League. Fawk

icy2

Same here, I have faith that he can still pull it off but its going to be a uphill climb the rest of the season

Mugen.Justice

I'm not a huge fan of Hamilton, but I can't help but feel bad for the guy.


Of course, he's got ability and the car (assuming there are no gremlins tomorrow) to bring him back to the front of the pack. He proved it last week, and can pull it off again.


Rosberg getting a DNF tomorrow would be a welcomed sight among some people.

West6MT

WTF @ Hamilton's luck

Chief F1 Fan

and then there's that not paying their drivers' salaries/employees thing Lotus has going on too. Maldonado must be desperate to stay in F1 because he already signed another contract. If Grosjean gets a palpable offer from a team that can give him a lateral move even, he should take it.

icy2

Well Chief, could you see McLaren looking at Grosjean? Seeing how Hamilton and Alonso are both locked up thru atleast the 2015 season.

Legend2TL

Qual: Gotta feel a little sorry for Hamilton with all the car failures he's had despite all the mindgame BS he's been doing this season with Rosberg.

Race: What A Race, best this year.

ttribe

Someone help me out here - how does Team Mercedes justify telling Hamilton to let Rosberg pass him? They were running 3rd and 4th, right? So does having them switch places increase the amount of team points earned? I could see if Hamilton wasn't in the Driver's Championship points race, but he's in second. One or the other of them is going to win the Driver's title, so how can the team be choosing a favorite at this point?

Mugen.Justice

The last couple races have spawned some pretty great battles. I though Montreal was the best so far.




Is Grosjean's Lotus contract up at the end of this season?


I wouldn't mind seeing Grosjean with McLaren in the future. He seems to have matured quite a bit. Perhaps after Button retires? I'd like to see at least one more year out of him.


Speaking of McLaren...how 'bout that botched tire strategy? Pity for Button...




I think it had to do with their different tire strategies. Rosberg was behind Hamilton, yes, but he had to come in for one more pit stop, while Hamilton was good til the end of the race. So technically, they weren't racing each other.

icy2

Yeah Mugen, Grosjean contract is up at the end of the year, and Lotus has been trying to resign him....Guess we'll see towards the end of the season what will happen.

McLaren wasted a good start to the race with Button on that poor strategy call yesterday!

Chief F1 Fan

MBZ was looking at Rosberg's strategy and thought he had the ability to WIN rather than give Lew podium, albeit 2nd or 3rd, which arguably, Rosberg would've won and was why he was so pissed at the end of the race.

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/207158/...m_campaign=rss

F-C

Yeah, I think Rosberg would have won if Hamilton let him pass. However, Hamilton has a point that Rosberg wasn't even close enough to make a pass.

I think the bigger issue is the missed strategy by Mercedes, Williams, Red Bull at the first full course caution. When Ericsson crashed and created the first full course caution, why did Mercedes, Williams, and Red Bull keep Rosberg, Bottas, and Vettel out of pit. This was where those three drivers lost out on the win. Instead, Ricciardo was the biggest beneficiary of that decision. To me, it appears that this was because the accident happened after those three cars already passed the pit entrance, but before Ricciardo and the rest of the field passed the entrance. Unfortunately, the idiots in the NBC booth didn't bother to analyze what happened.

Legend2TL

Although controversial, Lewis did the right thing.
He's battling Rosberg for the championship so asking Rosberg to pass was asking him to loss more points to his rival.

Lauda also agreed.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-au...-by-Niki-Lauda

Chief F1 Fan

I saw that too Legend and agree. It's really amazing how the MBZ drivers seem to only be pissed at each other race after race. I think that's a result of feeling entitled to win each and every race. Its not a new phenomenon as F1 drivers are the most selfish bastards on the planet and always have been.

read: Senna/Prost & Mansell/Piquet

vwong

I thought that they (Rosberg, Bottas, and Vettel) had passed the pit entrance when the safety car was released.

I was cheering when Riccardo passed Hamilton, but I was also furious. Why didn't Hamilton hit the damn wall harder in the opening lap? Why didn't his car blow up on race day instead of qualifying day? Why didn't Alonso's car break and send a spring to Hamilton's helmet and take him out of the rest of the season like Massa in 2009? He fucking pushed Rosberg wide in turn 3 in the last lap, same thing he did in Bahrain.

Chief F1 Fan

^^^ "spring" and "helmet" NOT funny

Aman

You think this rivalry will be as distinctive as those (not being sarcastic, honest question)? I think it's great, better than what we've seen in a very long time.