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Old 05-21-2014, 07:47 PM
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As I type this post, one of my buddies is boarding a flight to Dublin, and then to Nice. Guess where he will be on Sunday?


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Lucky guy, I've been to Nice and Monaco but in November (business trip to Sophia-Antipolis).
The drive from Nice (beautiful town, both old and new) to Monaco along the coast is amazing.
I drove the majority of the course in my rental Renault, amazing they average ~100MPH on those streets.

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Me and the whiff are planning on going to Monaco next year and then to Italy. I've wanted to attend this race since I was 7
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Monaco FP1:

POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:18.271
2. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:18.303
3. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Renault 1:18.506
4. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:18.930
5. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:19.043
6. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:19.467
7. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:19.494
8. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:19.666
9. Kevin Magnussen Denmark McLaren-Mercedes 1:19.789
10. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:19.856
11. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.033
12. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:20.118
13. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:20.207
14. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Lotus-Renault 1:20.241
15. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Renault 1:20.260
16. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:20.517
17. Adrian Sutil Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:20.736
18. Daniil Kvyat Russia Toro Rosso-Renault 1:20.914
19. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Ferrari 1:21.310
20. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Caterham-Renault 1:22.063
21. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Caterham-Renault 1:22.493
22. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Ferrari 1:25.817
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Monaco FP2:

POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:18.482
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:18.901
3. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:19.017
4. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Renault 1:19.351
5. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:19.421
6. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:19.668
7. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:19.712
8. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:19.721
9. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Renault 1:19.779
10. Kevin Magnussen Denmark McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.230
11. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:20.394
12. Daniil Kvyat Russia Toro Rosso-Renault 1:20.622
13. Adrian Sutil Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:20.811
14. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Lotus-Renault 1:20.977
15. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:21.467
16. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:21.700
17. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Caterham-Renault 1:21.924
18. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Ferrari 1:21.937
19. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Ferrari 1:22.683
20. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:22.862
21. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Caterham-Renault 1:23.164
22. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:45.509
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Wet practice, so I don't think we can learn much from the times today.
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
Me and the whiff are planning on going to Monaco next year and then to Italy. I've wanted to attend this race since I was 7
Highly recommend visiting Nice, great place to visit and pretty close to Nice. I would skip Antibes and Cannes, both are OK but not much to see there.
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Originally Posted by Mugen.Justice
As I type this post, one of my buddies is boarding a flight to Dublin, and then to Nice. Guess where he will be on Sunday?


Sonuvabitch.
Only $4k for a ticket that leave Houston in 2 hours & gets to Nice tomorrow afternoon....
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Highly recommend visiting Nice, great place to visit and pretty close to Nice. I would skip Antibes and Cannes, both are OK but not much to see there.
Yeah, if we go we'll go with a tour group. We've been on tours with Grand Prix Tours which was easy and well put together. That's where they go. I wanna blow the $$$ to go to the race on a balcony hospitality spot somewhere , not on a hotel room in Monaco so staying out of town and trying to save a little bit to offset race expenses is right in line with my thinking.
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Some of you guys have probably already seen this,...

Sky did a documentary on Senna

Legends of F1 - Senna

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Rosberg, hmmmmmmmmmmm that looked mighty suspicious.
Good for the win, but I think he'll still lose the championship
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Considering the gap between them through most of the race, I think Hamilton would've had the win if he had pole. He needs to stop pouting about it though.

Canada next!
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Grandstand 24 here I come! Cannot WAIT. I want to hear for myself, what these new power plants sound like. I have a new Drift Innovation Ghost-S POV cam and a long monopod I plan on trying to get shots of the cars braking into the hairpin over the fencing
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Hope it's not that bad in person ^^.


Rosberg did it on purpose IMO.
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If a former F1 driver and scads of scrutineers all poured over the data from Nico's run and determined he did not do it on purpose, that's good enough for me. And just because Hamilton was up .2 at the first sector, that doesn't necessarily guarantee he would've been on pole. Speaking about fake: I don't think Hamilton had any dirt in his FN eye either, his tires were going off, he couldn't catch Nico and he needed an excuse.
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Originally Posted by West6MT
Hope it's not that bad in person ^^.


Rosberg did it on purpose IMO.
I agree, and from the tone of Toto Wolf's statements about the incident I think MB thought so also. Coulthard also thought so also. I think it's difficult to look at the data to determine if it was deliberate or not, the most important missing telemetry is the driver's thoughts.
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Originally Posted by West6MT
Some of you guys have probably already seen this,...

Sky did a documentary on Senna

Legends of F1 - Senna
DVR'd this & The Last Teammate & watched them yesterday.
Both good programming, I've now got those & Senna on my DVR now.
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
If a former F1 driver and scads of scrutineers all poured over the data from Nico's run and determined he did not do it on purpose, that's good enough for me. And just because Hamilton was up .2 at the first sector, that doesn't necessarily guarantee he would've been on pole. Speaking about fake: I don't think Hamilton had any dirt in his FN eye either, his tires were going off, he couldn't catch Nico and he needed an excuse.
I'm thinking the same thing. How rare does that happen? If it happened, I doubt that it was still an issue when Ricciardo was chasing him down.

Unbelievably run of bad luck for Vettel. ERS fail during qualifying. Gearbox and turbo fail during the race. Not to mention the gearbox problem in qualifying at Jerez last race. Doesn't help my pick this week.

Good job by Marussia to score its first ever points.
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
I don't think Hamilton had any dirt in his FN eye either, his tires were going off, he couldn't catch Nico and he needed an excuse.
I can believe the dirt in his eye thing. He dropped off drastically when that happened, going from consistent 0.5-1.5 second gaps through the majority of the race to 4, 5 seconds off Rosberg in about two laps. I don't think tires would drop off that quickly.
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You know what was in Lew's eye??? TEARS because he was getting spanked at a race he thought he was the only one who deserved to win it. Fuck 'em.
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10 Awesome Photos From The Glamorous Monaco Grand Prix

http://www.businessinsider.com/monac...-photos-2014-5

Great pics from Monaco
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
You know what was in Lew's eye??? TEARS because he was getting spanked at a race he thought he was the only one who deserved to win it. Fuck 'em.
I'm assuming you're not a Hamilton's fan?
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Originally Posted by Legend2TL
Nice. Gotta go one day.
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Originally Posted by West6MT
Some of you guys have probably already seen this,...

Sky did a documentary on Senna

Legends of F1 - Senna

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAyqmutsuwY
Go to 36:30 and look at the wall behind Frank Williams in his office. Looks like a crankshaft from a V10 (probably a Renault V10). That's my kind of wall plaque
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I agree, and from the tone of Toto Wolf's statements about the incident I think MB thought so also. Coulthard also thought so also. I think it's difficult to look at the data to determine if it was deliberate or not, the most important missing telemetry is the driver's thoughts.
Before Ted Kravitz left for the weekend (family reasons), he said he talked to a few team principals & engineers (not identified) and they thought it was deliberate.

Watching the comparison of the video of the pole lap and the fuck up lap side by side (sky coverage) is telling IMO. I'm with Herbert, his steering input/car placement didn't make sense when he had to bail down the side road. And why would he reverse back towards the track, knowing cars were behind him on laps still.
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Go to 36:30 and look at the wall behind Frank Williams in his office. Looks like a crankshaft from a V10 (probably a Renault V10). That's my kind of wall plaque
Very cool indeed!
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I'm assuming you're not a Hamilton's fan?
I'm not a fan of bad sportsmanship, especially when exhibited at the Monaco GP. I saw an article that said both Hamilton and Rosberg on their final hot lap braked 8 meters later than usual at the run-down to Mirabeau-the former made it stick, the latter, obviously did not. Throttle traces, brake traces, steering inputs were looked at too and deemed not to be out of the ordinary. I can only guess he tried reversing out of the escape road to avoid being clobbered by any one as he had to keep the car running or else it would overheat and draw a grid penalty if left on the track.
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Tell us what you think of the turbo'd V6s in person. My buddy came back from Monaco and he said he liked it. Said yes, they sound different, yes they don't have the V8 sound. But, he liked the sounds of the turbos, and they are definitely not "quiet" by any means.
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I'll have video vis-a-vis Ghost-S on a monopod over the top of the fencing pointed at the cars as they brake for the hairpin. You'll be able to hear it too.
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Montreal FP1:

POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:17.238
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:17.254
3. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:17.384
4. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:18.131
5. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:18.361
6. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Renault 1:18.435
7. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:18.446
8. Kevin Magnussen Denmark McLaren-Mercedes 1:18.514
9. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:18.578
10. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Renault 1:18.643
11. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:18.733
12. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:18.959
13. Adrian Sutil Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:19.108
14. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:19.142
15. Daniil Kvyat Russia Toro Rosso-Renault 1:19.177
16. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Lotus-Renault 1:19.340
17. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:19.575
18. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:19.804
19. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Ferrari 1:20.200
20. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Ferrari 1:20.844
21. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Caterham-Renault 1:21.404
22. Alexander Rossi United States Caterham-Renault 1:21.757
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Montreal FP2:

POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:16.118
2. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:16.293
3. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:16.573
4. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:16.648
5. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:16.701
6. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:16.774
7. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:16.893
8. Kevin Magnussen Denmark McLaren-Mercedes 1:17.052
9. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:17.059
10. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Renault 1:17.180
11. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:17.626
12. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Renault 1:17.644
13. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:17.712
14. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:17.819
15. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Lotus-Renault 1:17.868
16. Adrian Sutil Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:17.964
17. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:18.340
18. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Ferrari 1:18.693
19. Daniil Kvyat Russia Toro Rosso-Renault 1:18.732
20. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Caterham-Renault 1:20.244
21. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Caterham-Renault 1:22.418
22. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Ferrari 1:32.127
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Wow what a race
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Massa and his Williams have been performing really well this race.

Say fuck to all those years of being a supporting "second driver".
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Hell of a race. Wish Massa made podium and Hamilton was still in it, but the last few laps were very exciting.

More than half the field didn't see the checkered flag.
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As a McLaren fan, I didn't want to see Force India get a podium (sad as that is to say...) But I did want to see Massa get up there. Too bad for both Massa and Perez.

Glad to see Ricciardo get his first win.
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Was hoping for a Williams podium, shame Bottas had troubles but at least he kept it in the points, watched the last lap incident almost 10 times & couldn't quite tell who was at fault. Looks like they both swerved a bit.
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Was hoping for a Williams podium, shame Bottas had troubles but at least he kept it in the points, watched the last lap incident almost 10 times & couldn't quite tell who was at fault. Looks like they both swerved a bit.
Perez got hit with a 5-place grid penalty for that collision:

http://en.espnf1.com/canada/motorspo...ry/162103.html
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Perez got hit with a 5-place grid penalty for that collision:

http://en.espnf1.com/canada/motorspo...ry/162103.html
To me, it looked like Perez moved left first, but almost immediately, Massa was moving right.
Glad both are ok, looked like a hard hit on both.
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Alonsos comments after the race about being lucky to have gotten points should stir things up more at Ferrari.


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