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Old 09-14-2010, 06:48 PM
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The Top 25 Recruiter Picks

Below are the Top 25 schools whose graduates were the top-rated by recruiters.

Under each school you'll see any individual majors where companies also ranked the school, along with other general information about the school's location, application deadlines and student body. Click on each school name to go to the university's website.

Where possible, we've pulled school-related data on number of students, tuition, application deadline, undergraduate enrollment and admissions contact information directly from each institution's website.....
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...989873060.html


Cliffs: Big Ten represents 6 of the top 12.
Old 09-15-2010, 09:49 AM
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I want to see of those that got "jobs" how many were in their field of study. Getting a "job" at the Piggly Wiggly or TGI Fridays doesn't count.
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Recruiters are idiots.
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wifes; alma mater is #1
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Recruiters are idiots.
That's sorta harsh. I'm just surprised the Ivy's weren't better represented here.
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I'm one of the fortunate few who did not need to go to college to be successful in my field (IT). During my last job search, I got refused an interview because I didn't have a bachelor's degree, and I just figured it was their loss. In my current job, my team lead has an MBA and matching 6-figure loan to pay back. I can't see him coming out ahead of me in the long run.

I'm glad things worked out as they did for me and I understand it gives me a jaded view of the value of higher education. Still, I don't see the return on investment relative to building a solid resume on work experience even if you have to work your way up through lower-pay positions. I believe real word experience>academic experience.
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#4 for me.

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Number 9! Woot! That's why all you people pay my deservedly high Government salary.
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Originally Posted by Anachostic
I'm one of the fortunate few who did not need to go to college to be successful in my field (IT). During my last job search, I got refused an interview because I didn't have a bachelor's degree, and I just figured it was their loss. In my current job, my team lead has an MBA and matching 6-figure loan to pay back. I can't see him coming out ahead of me in the long run.

I'm glad things worked out as they did for me and I understand it gives me a jaded view of the value of higher education. Still, I don't see the return on investment relative to building a solid resume on work experience even if you have to work your way up through lower-pay positions. I believe real word experience>academic experience.
While I know a lot of people in technology roles who have done well in their positions without an MBA, don't discount higher education. Work experience is great, but if you interview somewhere and are up against someone with similar work experience and an MBA, and you haven't even had any college, you probably won't get the job.

I went to college courtesy of uncle sam, and after 12 years in the technology world (start ups), I've realized that the only way to move up and be respected as anything other than a "tech guy" is to have the MBA. I realized that I didn't want to be 40 and still configuring firewalls, and cleaning up viruses and other BS.

Even though your team lead has some debt from education, he's your team lead with his MBA, so that should say something. And I would bet that on average someone with an MBA will make significantly more money in their career than someone without a bachelors.
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Originally Posted by Anachostic
I'm one of the fortunate few who did not need to go to college to be successful in my field (IT). During my last job search, I got refused an interview because I didn't have a bachelor's degree, and I just figured it was their loss. In my current job, my team lead has an MBA and matching 6-figure loan to pay back. I can't see him coming out ahead of me in the long run.

I'm glad things worked out as they did for me and I understand it gives me a jaded view of the value of higher education. Still, I don't see the return on investment relative to building a solid resume on work experience even if you have to work your way up through lower-pay positions. I believe real word experience>academic experience.
This is really only relevant to IT. I was in IT for 5 years and was making pretty decent money with no degree. I recently went back to school to pursue finance, I think a degree will help in that field. But you are right, there are exceptions to the rules, especially in IT.
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This is really only relevant to IT. I was in IT for 5 years and was making pretty decent money with no degree. I recently went back to school to pursue finance, I think a degree will help in that field. But you are right, there are exceptions to the rules, especially in IT.
I wish more industries would think like the IT field does. It's about skills and talent not a piece of paper.
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Originally Posted by mcflyguy24
I wish more industries would think like the IT field does. It's about skills and talent not a piece of paper.
That's funny because all the old blue-collar manufacturing/skilled trade jobs were this way. When I was in high school it was a choice of blue-collar job right out of school, or college for 4 years and a white-collar job.
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#4 for me.

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Just b/c they're in the big ten
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