The "official" housing bubble thread
#401
Originally Posted by fdl
Looks like it's for real: U.S. housing is cooling
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...ry/TPBusiness/
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...ry/TPBusiness/
Pop! Goes the weasel....
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Originally Posted by fdl
Looks like it's for real: U.S. housing is cooling
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...ry/TPBusiness/
Ms. Caranci expects the downward trend in prices and transactions that have been seen for about five months will continue.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...ry/TPBusiness/
Ms. Caranci expects the downward trend in prices and transactions that have been seen for about five months will continue.
Looks like I might have to pull my money out if TD if the rest of their economists are as good as Ms. Caranci
The National Association of Realtors reported Thursday that that sales of existing single-family homes and condomiums rose by 5.2 percent in February to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 6.91 million units.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11975325/
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But seriously Silver...do you still deny a housing cool down is here, or inevitable?
Latest housing data provide fresh evidence market is cooling
A government report Friday confirmed what home buyers and sellers have been finding out recently: The once red-hot U.S. housing market is cooling off. The result is that sellers in many parts of the country have been cutting prices, and buyers are finding they have more bargaining power when they go house hunting.
Sales of new homes plunged in February, while the median price of a new home dropped for the fourth straight month, providing fresh evidence that after five years of record setting sales, the nation’s once-booming housing market is cooling off.
The Commerce Department reported that sales of new single-family homes dropped by 10.5 percent last month -- the largest amount in nearly nine years and the second straight monthly drop.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11993043/
Latest housing data provide fresh evidence market is cooling
A government report Friday confirmed what home buyers and sellers have been finding out recently: The once red-hot U.S. housing market is cooling off. The result is that sellers in many parts of the country have been cutting prices, and buyers are finding they have more bargaining power when they go house hunting.
Sales of new homes plunged in February, while the median price of a new home dropped for the fourth straight month, providing fresh evidence that after five years of record setting sales, the nation’s once-booming housing market is cooling off.
The Commerce Department reported that sales of new single-family homes dropped by 10.5 percent last month -- the largest amount in nearly nine years and the second straight monthly drop.
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Originally Posted by fdl
But seriously Silver...do you still deny a housing cool down is here, or inevitable?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11993043/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11993043/
I don't think I have denied that the market is currently cooling.
#406
Originally Posted by Silver™
I don't think I have denied that the market is currently cooling.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/24/news...ales/index.htm
#408
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Originally Posted by dallison
well i hope i can afford to buy a house under 200k outside of philadelphia in the next couple of months
How much are houses there right now? I dont expect the prices to crash down, but correct somewhat and then plateau for a while. Interest rate are still pretty low (for now).
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Originally Posted by dallison
well i hope i can afford to buy a house under 200k outside of philadelphia in the next couple of months
200K??
doesn't seem likely. From what I keep hearing/reading Philly is a growing city? AKA NYC peeps are going to Philly.
Probably not likely to get something that cheap, unless you really lower the bar on what is okay to live in.
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Originally Posted by 95gt
200K??
doesn't seem likely. From what I keep hearing/reading Philly is a growing city? AKA NYC peeps are going to Philly.
Probably not likely to get something that cheap, unless you really lower the bar on what is okay to live in.
http://money.cnn.com/2005/05/12/real...0506/index.htm
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dallison, go on www.realtor.com and take a look in the Collegeville, PA area. There are some nice places (not palaces) but some nice small homes and condos/townhouses.
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Certain markets will decline somewhat...but the demand v. supply for places like SF and NYC will always be high...and at best it you will basically see a slight drop off...but no more than maybe 10% before it plateaus.
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Originally Posted by Craptastic
That article's from June 2005. The market has definitely gone up since then. Plus Philadelphia was expected to have over an 11% increase in values. My advice, do what I did: find the crappiest place in a good neighborhood and completely remodel. That was the only way I could afford a place in Orange County (610k median house price according to that article). That way you basically get a custom-tailored house that you truly enjoy living in. After all, houses aren't just investments...they're homes.
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I'm not sure what the average ratio is. I'm around 59% if I'm calculating it right (principle balance/house value). There's no doubt that there're a lot of exotic loans gaining popularity out there. I got a 7/1 interest only arm which is a lot safer than some of those 3/1 or even 1/1 arms you hear about. I plan on selling my place within three to five years, so I'm not too concerned.
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Originally Posted by Craptastic
I'm not sure what the average ratio is. I'm around 59% if I'm calculating it right (principle balance/house value). There's no doubt that there're a lot of exotic loans gaining popularity out there. I got a 7/1 interest only arm which is a lot safer than some of those 3/1 or even 1/1 arms you hear about. I plan on selling my place within three to five years, so I'm not too concerned.
Now interest only, it will pay off only if the value of the property increases over time, as your principal would stay as-is, while just making interest payments.
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Originally Posted by zamo
i wont consider it safer, but just a better option than 3/1 and 1/1
Now interest only, it will pay off only if the value of the property increases over time, as your principal would stay as-is, while just making interest payments.
Now interest only, it will pay off only if the value of the property increases over time, as your principal would stay as-is, while just making interest payments.
The fact that it's interest only means rather than paying down your principle, which earns you no interest or income, just a reduction in mortgage interest liability (which is tax deductable), you can invest it at rates higher than your mortgage interest rate and earn compounded interest which you can later use to pay down your loan or to finance your next home purchase. Furthermore, the money you pay to reduce your principle is not a liquid investment, therefore if you need to make a large purchase or have a family emergency, you are forced to refinance or take a home equity line of credit.
Now I'm not saying a 7/1 interest only arm works for everyone, but if you got a decent interest rate (mine's 5.5% w/ zero points), and you don't plan on keeping the place or the same loan for longer than 7 years, then it definitely makes sense. And it's clearly a safer loan than shorter term adjustable rate mortgages in a fluctuating market. But none of this should be anything new to someone who works in the real estate business.
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Originally Posted by Craptastic
A 7/1 is obviously a safer loan than a 5/1, 3/1 or 1/1 arm simply for the fact that it is fixed for a longer period of time. A 7/1 arm gives a person 7 years of a fixed interest rate to wait out any swings in the market, such as rising interest costs or a drop in resale values.
The fact that it's interest only means rather than paying down your principle, which earns you no interest or income, just a reduction in mortgage interest liability (which is tax deductable), you can invest it at rates higher than your mortgage interest rate and earn compounded interest which you can later use to pay down your loan or to finance your next home purchase. Furthermore, the money you pay to reduce your principle is not a liquid investment, therefore if you need to make a large purchase or have a family emergency, you are forced to refinance or take a home equity line of credit.
Now I'm not saying a 7/1 interest only arm works for everyone, but if you got a decent interest rate (mine's 5.5% w/ zero points), and you don't plan on keeping the place or the same loan for longer than 7 years, then it definitely makes sense. And it's clearly a safer loan than shorter term adjustable rate mortgages in a fluctuating market. But none of this should be anything new to someone who works in the real estate business.
The fact that it's interest only means rather than paying down your principle, which earns you no interest or income, just a reduction in mortgage interest liability (which is tax deductable), you can invest it at rates higher than your mortgage interest rate and earn compounded interest which you can later use to pay down your loan or to finance your next home purchase. Furthermore, the money you pay to reduce your principle is not a liquid investment, therefore if you need to make a large purchase or have a family emergency, you are forced to refinance or take a home equity line of credit.
Now I'm not saying a 7/1 interest only arm works for everyone, but if you got a decent interest rate (mine's 5.5% w/ zero points), and you don't plan on keeping the place or the same loan for longer than 7 years, then it definitely makes sense. And it's clearly a safer loan than shorter term adjustable rate mortgages in a fluctuating market. But none of this should be anything new to someone who works in the real estate business.
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Looks like the air will leak out slowly....
The "danger years" for homeowners
Delinquencies peak the third and fourth years of mortgages. Will risky terms add to the problem?
By Les Christie, CNNMoney.com staff writer
March 28, 2006: 2:40 PM EST
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Millions of mortgage borrowers are entering their "danger years," when delinquencies peak and owners risk losing their homes.
Although borrowers are often told that the first year is the hardest, delinquencies have historically reached their highest points during the third and fourth years of mortgages, according to Doug Duncan, chief economist for the Mortgage Bankers Association (MBA).
"As a mortgage ages, things can go wrong," he says....
http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/28/real...ears/index.htm
Delinquencies peak the third and fourth years of mortgages. Will risky terms add to the problem?
By Les Christie, CNNMoney.com staff writer
March 28, 2006: 2:40 PM EST
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Millions of mortgage borrowers are entering their "danger years," when delinquencies peak and owners risk losing their homes.
Although borrowers are often told that the first year is the hardest, delinquencies have historically reached their highest points during the third and fourth years of mortgages, according to Doug Duncan, chief economist for the Mortgage Bankers Association (MBA).
"As a mortgage ages, things can go wrong," he says....
http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/28/real...ears/index.htm
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Interesting fact I read the other day.
Since we are on the subject of delinquencies:
California's population is more than 50% larger than Texas.
There are 50% more delinquencies in Texas than in California.
http://realestate.msn.com/buying/Art...umentid=338165
What makes it all the more interesting is that California is always ridiculed for it's high home prices while Texas is considered one of the more affordable states.
Since we are on the subject of delinquencies:
California's population is more than 50% larger than Texas.
There are 50% more delinquencies in Texas than in California.
http://realestate.msn.com/buying/Art...umentid=338165
What makes it all the more interesting is that California is always ridiculed for it's high home prices while Texas is considered one of the more affordable states.
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Maybe that's why housing's so cheap in Texas. You never know when those cowboys are gonna default on their mortgage and put another discounted house on the market.
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Interesting fact I read the other day.
Since we are on the subject of delinquencies:
California's population is more than 50% larger than Texas.
There are 50% more delinquencies in Texas than in California.
http://realestate.msn.com/buying/Art...umentid=338165
What makes it all the more interesting is that California is always ridiculed for it's high home prices while Texas is considered one of the more affordable states.
Since we are on the subject of delinquencies:
California's population is more than 50% larger than Texas.
There are 50% more delinquencies in Texas than in California.
http://realestate.msn.com/buying/Art...umentid=338165
What makes it all the more interesting is that California is always ridiculed for it's high home prices while Texas is considered one of the more affordable states.
I would say it is because in Texas one can buy a house on his own while in Cali all the members of the family (3 brothers, 2 sisters) live at home with their parents and contribute to pay the mortgage well beyond the years where they should be living independently.... (the more contributors, the less risk of default) :wink:
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Originally Posted by mamboking
I would say it is because in Texas one can buy a house on his own while in Cali all the members of the family (3 brothers, 2 sisters) live at home with their parents and contribute to pay the mortgage
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"I'm not giving in to the market"
`For Sale' Signs Rise, Home Sellers Cut Prices as Fed Tightens
By Matthew Benjamin and Kathleen M. Howley
March 31 (Bloomberg) -- Maryam Safai's 5,000-square-foot,
five-bedroom colonial in Mahwah, New Jersey, has been on the
market for a year, even after three reductions in asking price.
``I'm not going to give in to the market,'' says Safai, 44,
a dentist. ``I'm not selling below our current asking price'' of
$1.69 million.
Like Safai's northern New Jersey neighborhood, housing
markets around the nation are cooling, mostly as the result of
the Federal Reserve's drive to push up interest rates. That has
slowed price increases in most of the country and reduced demand
for risky types of financing that caused former Fed Chairman Alan
Greenspan to worry about ``froth'' in the housing market.
Sales of new homes fell 10.5 percent in February, the
biggest drop since 1995, and sales of existing homes slipped in
five of the last six months, leaving a record 3 million unsold
houses on the market. Sales will fall further this year and price
gains will slow, predicts the Washington-based National
Association of Realtors. High-end properties and markets that had
the biggest increases during the boom are cooling the most.
``The markets that were the high flyers over the past couple
of years have more adjusting to do,'' says Jeff Lyons, general
manager of RealEstate.com, a consulting firm in Charlotte, North
Carolina. ``Entry-level buyers are still strong, while buyers
looking to step up to bigger houses are becoming more cautious.''
Signs Abound
Signs of the cooling market aren't hard to find on Bradford
Street in Boston's South End, where Victorian townhouses are
listed for as much as $4.5 million.
``Last year, houses were snapped up as soon as they were put
on the market, so you never even saw a sign,'' says Kenneth
Kinna, 41, a film producer who owns a 10-room townhouse in the
neighborhood. Now there are three ``For Sale'' signs on his
block.
The trend is most pronounced in affluent neighborhoods in
the Northeast, where prices soared the most during the real-
estate boom. Median prices for existing homes in the Northeast
were up 5.2 percent in February from a year earlier, compared
with almost 18 percent in the previous 12-month period, according
to the Realtors group.
Price growth slowed to about 4 percent in the Midwest in
February, down from 7.7 percent the previous year. Growth in the
West has remained in the 12 to 14 percent range, with New Mexico
and Arizona gaining while the California market slows. Prices
increased in the South, to nearly 12 percent in February, from
6.5 percent the year before.
The Fed, which last May warned that easier credit was
fueling home price speculation, has since increased short-term
interest rates seven times, most recently on March 28.
Monthly Payments
Buyers of houses in the $1 million to $4 million range are
``particularly sensitive to interest rates because the monthly
payments on houses in that range are substantial,'' says Anthony
Hsieh, chief executive officer of LendingTree.com, a mortgage-
provider Web site based in Charlotte, North Carolina.
While damping price growth the most at the high end of the
market and in the Northeast, rising rates have also reduced
demand for riskier forms of financing and begun a shift of power
from sellers back to buyers, economists and brokers say.
In a sign that buyers are starting to gain the upper hand,
pre-sale home inspections are back in vogue in Montgomery County,
Maryland, says Meg Finn, a Long & Foster agent based in Bethesda.
Just a year ago, buyers who insisted on inspections jeopardized
their chances of getting a house in a bidding war, she says.
Unsold Homes
In Montgomery County, which includes the affluent Washington
suburbs of Bethesda and Potomac, unsold homes were on the market
an average 58 days in February, compared with 37 days a year
earlier, according to Metropolitan Regional Information Systems
Inc. The 3,030 homes for sale in the county in February were
almost triple the 1,190 listed a year earlier.
Economists still expect 2006 to be a strong year for
housing. David Berson, chief economist at Washington-based Fannie
Mae, the nation's largest buyer of mortgages, expects sales of
existing houses to fall 9.2 percent to 6.4 million, and new home
sales to fall 7.4 percent to 1.19 million. Sales in both
categories would be the third-best on record.
``The greatest proportion of the decline in home sales we're
looking at this year will come from investors,'' he says.
Source of `Froth'
That will remove one source of the ``froth'' in the housing
market of which Greenspan warned. Partly as a result of the Fed's
15 consecutive increases in interest rates, adjustable-rate and
interest-only loans, closely tied to short-term rates, are on the
decline. Such loans were popular with buyers trying to stretch
their dollars and with speculators seeking to minimize the cost
of buying property for short-term profit.
``That's probably a good thing,'' says former Fed Governor
Edward Gramlich, who left the Fed in August. ``When you raise
rates, and we knew what we were doing, one of the consequences is
fewer people getting involved in riskier short-term mortgage
products,'' says Gramlich, now interim provost at the University
of Michigan in Ann Arbor.
In Medford, Massachusetts, newlyweds Amy Stewart and Jason
Walker chose a traditional 30-year fixed-rate mortgage for their
first home after flirting with the idea of an adjustable-rate
loan with a lower initial payment.
``We thought about an ARM, but the rates are so close we
opted for the security of a 30-year fixed,'' says Stewart, 29, a
lawyer in Boston.
ARMs Reduction
Adjustable-rate mortgages represented less than 30 percent
of all loan applications in January, down from an average 36
percent during all of 2005, according to Fannie Mae, the largest
U.S. mortgage buyer. Interest-only loans accounted for 22 percent
of all adjustable-rate mortgages in 2004, more than double the
share the previous year, according to Freddie Mac, the No. 2
mortgage buyer. The loans, which allow borrowers to defer
principal payments during the initial years of the mortgage, have
been declining since last year, Freddie Mac says.
``Borrowers are now opting for the security of long-term
fixed rates,'' says Dean Hackemer, president of Access National
Mortgage Corp. in Reston, Virginia. ``The spread between the ARMs
and fixed-rate products is so small, most homeowners are willing
to pay the difference for peace of mind.''
Buyers are looking for more than peace of mind. They're
looking for a deal.
``It's switched to a buyer's market,'' says Karen McCormack,
39, co-owner of McCormack & Scanlan Real Estate in Boston's
Jamaica Plain neighborhood. ``Homes are still selling, but the
buyers have much more say in prices this year.''
On a Boston street, lined with a dozen ``For Sale'' signs,
McCormack is trying to sell a three-bedroom house listed at
$535,000. She's holding ``commuter hours'' open houses on Monday
nights to lure would-be buyers on their way home from work.
``When the market was hot, we never would have had to do
this,'' she says.
source: bloomberg
By Matthew Benjamin and Kathleen M. Howley
March 31 (Bloomberg) -- Maryam Safai's 5,000-square-foot,
five-bedroom colonial in Mahwah, New Jersey, has been on the
market for a year, even after three reductions in asking price.
``I'm not going to give in to the market,'' says Safai, 44,
a dentist. ``I'm not selling below our current asking price'' of
$1.69 million.
Like Safai's northern New Jersey neighborhood, housing
markets around the nation are cooling, mostly as the result of
the Federal Reserve's drive to push up interest rates. That has
slowed price increases in most of the country and reduced demand
for risky types of financing that caused former Fed Chairman Alan
Greenspan to worry about ``froth'' in the housing market.
Sales of new homes fell 10.5 percent in February, the
biggest drop since 1995, and sales of existing homes slipped in
five of the last six months, leaving a record 3 million unsold
houses on the market. Sales will fall further this year and price
gains will slow, predicts the Washington-based National
Association of Realtors. High-end properties and markets that had
the biggest increases during the boom are cooling the most.
``The markets that were the high flyers over the past couple
of years have more adjusting to do,'' says Jeff Lyons, general
manager of RealEstate.com, a consulting firm in Charlotte, North
Carolina. ``Entry-level buyers are still strong, while buyers
looking to step up to bigger houses are becoming more cautious.''
Signs Abound
Signs of the cooling market aren't hard to find on Bradford
Street in Boston's South End, where Victorian townhouses are
listed for as much as $4.5 million.
``Last year, houses were snapped up as soon as they were put
on the market, so you never even saw a sign,'' says Kenneth
Kinna, 41, a film producer who owns a 10-room townhouse in the
neighborhood. Now there are three ``For Sale'' signs on his
block.
The trend is most pronounced in affluent neighborhoods in
the Northeast, where prices soared the most during the real-
estate boom. Median prices for existing homes in the Northeast
were up 5.2 percent in February from a year earlier, compared
with almost 18 percent in the previous 12-month period, according
to the Realtors group.
Price growth slowed to about 4 percent in the Midwest in
February, down from 7.7 percent the previous year. Growth in the
West has remained in the 12 to 14 percent range, with New Mexico
and Arizona gaining while the California market slows. Prices
increased in the South, to nearly 12 percent in February, from
6.5 percent the year before.
The Fed, which last May warned that easier credit was
fueling home price speculation, has since increased short-term
interest rates seven times, most recently on March 28.
Monthly Payments
Buyers of houses in the $1 million to $4 million range are
``particularly sensitive to interest rates because the monthly
payments on houses in that range are substantial,'' says Anthony
Hsieh, chief executive officer of LendingTree.com, a mortgage-
provider Web site based in Charlotte, North Carolina.
While damping price growth the most at the high end of the
market and in the Northeast, rising rates have also reduced
demand for riskier forms of financing and begun a shift of power
from sellers back to buyers, economists and brokers say.
In a sign that buyers are starting to gain the upper hand,
pre-sale home inspections are back in vogue in Montgomery County,
Maryland, says Meg Finn, a Long & Foster agent based in Bethesda.
Just a year ago, buyers who insisted on inspections jeopardized
their chances of getting a house in a bidding war, she says.
Unsold Homes
In Montgomery County, which includes the affluent Washington
suburbs of Bethesda and Potomac, unsold homes were on the market
an average 58 days in February, compared with 37 days a year
earlier, according to Metropolitan Regional Information Systems
Inc. The 3,030 homes for sale in the county in February were
almost triple the 1,190 listed a year earlier.
Economists still expect 2006 to be a strong year for
housing. David Berson, chief economist at Washington-based Fannie
Mae, the nation's largest buyer of mortgages, expects sales of
existing houses to fall 9.2 percent to 6.4 million, and new home
sales to fall 7.4 percent to 1.19 million. Sales in both
categories would be the third-best on record.
``The greatest proportion of the decline in home sales we're
looking at this year will come from investors,'' he says.
Source of `Froth'
That will remove one source of the ``froth'' in the housing
market of which Greenspan warned. Partly as a result of the Fed's
15 consecutive increases in interest rates, adjustable-rate and
interest-only loans, closely tied to short-term rates, are on the
decline. Such loans were popular with buyers trying to stretch
their dollars and with speculators seeking to minimize the cost
of buying property for short-term profit.
``That's probably a good thing,'' says former Fed Governor
Edward Gramlich, who left the Fed in August. ``When you raise
rates, and we knew what we were doing, one of the consequences is
fewer people getting involved in riskier short-term mortgage
products,'' says Gramlich, now interim provost at the University
of Michigan in Ann Arbor.
In Medford, Massachusetts, newlyweds Amy Stewart and Jason
Walker chose a traditional 30-year fixed-rate mortgage for their
first home after flirting with the idea of an adjustable-rate
loan with a lower initial payment.
``We thought about an ARM, but the rates are so close we
opted for the security of a 30-year fixed,'' says Stewart, 29, a
lawyer in Boston.
ARMs Reduction
Adjustable-rate mortgages represented less than 30 percent
of all loan applications in January, down from an average 36
percent during all of 2005, according to Fannie Mae, the largest
U.S. mortgage buyer. Interest-only loans accounted for 22 percent
of all adjustable-rate mortgages in 2004, more than double the
share the previous year, according to Freddie Mac, the No. 2
mortgage buyer. The loans, which allow borrowers to defer
principal payments during the initial years of the mortgage, have
been declining since last year, Freddie Mac says.
``Borrowers are now opting for the security of long-term
fixed rates,'' says Dean Hackemer, president of Access National
Mortgage Corp. in Reston, Virginia. ``The spread between the ARMs
and fixed-rate products is so small, most homeowners are willing
to pay the difference for peace of mind.''
Buyers are looking for more than peace of mind. They're
looking for a deal.
``It's switched to a buyer's market,'' says Karen McCormack,
39, co-owner of McCormack & Scanlan Real Estate in Boston's
Jamaica Plain neighborhood. ``Homes are still selling, but the
buyers have much more say in prices this year.''
On a Boston street, lined with a dozen ``For Sale'' signs,
McCormack is trying to sell a three-bedroom house listed at
$535,000. She's holding ``commuter hours'' open houses on Monday
nights to lure would-be buyers on their way home from work.
``When the market was hot, we never would have had to do
this,'' she says.
source: bloomberg
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^^ Jan 2008: ``I'm not going to give in to the market,'' says Safai, 44,
a dentist. ``I'm not selling below our current asking price'' of
$1.69 million.
a dentist. ``I'm not selling below our current asking price'' of
$1.69 million.
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Six months to housing hell
For the past decade, homeowners in the United States have been living in “Housing Heaven”. In this heavenly place, profits are always made; prices only go up; interest rates only go down; developers keep building, marketing, and selling megabuck, luxurious spa-like residences, that are all sold pre-construction; property speculators always make money, and pyramid their purchases into owning many properties to flip for a quick profit; and, second-homes are not an expensive luxury, but a wise investment for retirement.
http://www.moneyweek.com/file/10891/...sing-hell.html
http://www.moneyweek.com/file/10891/...sing-hell.html
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Originally Posted by M TYPE X
Six months?! PistonFan posted it, so it must be true!
Six months before the housing market crashes, we run out of oil, China gets rid of all their dollar reserves, the sky falls, etc...
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Originally Posted by Silver™
Six months before the housing market crashes, we run out of oil, China gets rid of all their dollar reserves, the sky falls, etc...
Now, if only I could figure out which one of the dozen connectors I need to use.
I'm sure that Detroitgasprices.com charts will look so much better on the flat panel than on the CRT.
hahaha, Doom in 32-bit color!
#432
I feel the need...
Originally Posted by Silver™
Six months before the housing market crashes, we run out of oil, China gets rid of all their dollar reserves, the sky falls, etc...
Not before you buddy Dubya hands out a few more Presidential Premature Ejaculation awards to assclowns who haven't accomplished shizzle, we bomb some wacky mullahs in Iran, we gift American style democracy to the folks who have embraced us as liberators, we actually elect politicians who understand the concept of fiscal discipline, etc...
#433
Moderator Alumnus
Originally Posted by PistonFan
Not before you buddy Dubya hands out a few more Presidential Premature Ejaculation awards to assclowns who haven't accomplished shizzle, we bomb some wacky mullahs in Iran, we gift American style democracy to the folks who have embraced us as liberators, we actually elect politicians who understand the concept of fiscal discipline, etc...
#434
Senior Moderator
Real estate insiders go bearish in blogs
In mostly anonymous postings, agents are reporting big problems in the markets.
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - If the secret worries of real estate professionals are any indication, home prices could be heading for a swoon.
When Brad Inman of Inman News, which tracks the real estate industry and is widely read by industry insiders, recently gave real estate agents the opportunity to blog about market conditions, they almost uniformly described them as bad – and getting worse.
Latest home prices for 145 markets
"Normally, brokers and agents tend to sugarcoat the news; they don't want to affect consumer confidence," says Inman. "By letting them post anonymously, we gave them a way to really share their thoughts."
Most responded with tales of high inventories, slow sales and languishing prices.
Here's a sampling of their comments:
* "Portland, Oregon is mixed . . . more inventory, sitting longer. . . . Sellers no longer king." Posted by anonymous.
* "Minneapolis/St.Paul . . . 15 houses per buyer. If we had buyers. Huge inventory in every price range. More foreclosure properties coming on daily." Posted by anonymous.
* "East Central Florida Coastal area inventories up four times year to year and sales down 75%." Posted by Ramon Rivera (Not all bloggers craved anonymity).
* "Some Realtors, Mortgage Brokers & some clients have been more testy than in months previous. Something is in the air." Posted by S. Crowe.
* "Northern Ca. Let's not beat around the bush here. There is a slow down!! Home prices are not going up. Sales are down." Posted by anonymous.
In mostly anonymous postings, agents are reporting big problems in the markets.
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - If the secret worries of real estate professionals are any indication, home prices could be heading for a swoon.
When Brad Inman of Inman News, which tracks the real estate industry and is widely read by industry insiders, recently gave real estate agents the opportunity to blog about market conditions, they almost uniformly described them as bad – and getting worse.
Latest home prices for 145 markets
"Normally, brokers and agents tend to sugarcoat the news; they don't want to affect consumer confidence," says Inman. "By letting them post anonymously, we gave them a way to really share their thoughts."
Most responded with tales of high inventories, slow sales and languishing prices.
Here's a sampling of their comments:
* "Portland, Oregon is mixed . . . more inventory, sitting longer. . . . Sellers no longer king." Posted by anonymous.
* "Minneapolis/St.Paul . . . 15 houses per buyer. If we had buyers. Huge inventory in every price range. More foreclosure properties coming on daily." Posted by anonymous.
* "East Central Florida Coastal area inventories up four times year to year and sales down 75%." Posted by Ramon Rivera (Not all bloggers craved anonymity).
* "Some Realtors, Mortgage Brokers & some clients have been more testy than in months previous. Something is in the air." Posted by S. Crowe.
* "Northern Ca. Let's not beat around the bush here. There is a slow down!! Home prices are not going up. Sales are down." Posted by anonymous.
#437
Go Giants
So if I go overseas for a few years should I sell my house and hope that the bubble bursts, or rent it out?
#438
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by Whiskers
So if I go overseas for a few years should I sell my house and hope that the bubble bursts, or rent it out?
wouldnt we all like to know the answer to that question. prices could crash, or they could level off, or just blip down and then steam ahead. In that situation any choice you make would come with a degree of risk. Every city, and perheps even neighbourhood could be different as well.
#439
Go Giants
Originally Posted by fdl
wouldnt we all like to know the answer to that question. prices could crash, or they could level off, or just blip down and then steam ahead. In that situation any choice you make would come with a degree of risk. Every city, and perheps even neighbourhood could be different as well.