Anyone use a RD in VA? I know they're illegal and cops have RDDs but does anyone use something undetectable and what have you noticed also what happens if your caught using one I can't really find anything online....

 

if you get caught you get a tix (ain't cheap-$100 fine), and you get to keep the RD BUT there will be a notation on your record for the RD you have (they note the serial number down and make of the RD). can't imagine what they do if you get caught twice. it's a big no no in VA. play at your own risk.

however if you'd like to go ahead and install one and see what happens and report back that would be informational for the rest of us.

 

I've used them passing through with no problems. Had to have the cloak on it and it detected the radar detector detectors the cops use.

 

Here you go. Highlighting mine.

§ 46.2-1079. Radar detectors; demerit points not to be awarded.
A. It shall be unlawful for any person to operate a motor vehicle on the highways of the Commonwealth when such vehicle is equipped with any device or mechanism, passive or active, to detect or purposefully interfere with or diminish the measurement capabilities of any radar, laser, or other device or mechanism employed by law-enforcement personnel to measure the speed of motor vehicles on the highways of the Commonwealth for law-enforcement purposes. It shall be unlawful to use any such device or mechanism on any such motor vehicle on the highways. It shall be unlawful to sell any such device or mechanism in the Commonwealth. However, provisions of this section shall not apply to any receiver of radio waves utilized for lawful purposes to receive any signal from a frequency lawfully licensed by any state or federal agency.
This section shall not be construed to authorize the forfeiture to the Commonwealth of any such device or mechanism. Any such device or mechanism may be taken by the arresting officer if needed as evidence, and, when no longer needed, shall be returned to the person charged with a violation of this section, or at that person's request, and his expense, mailed to an address specified by him. Any unclaimed devices may be destroyed on court order after six months have elapsed from the final date for filing an appeal.
Except as provided in subsection B of this section, the presence of any such prohibited device or mechanism in or on a motor vehicle on the highways of the Commonwealth shall constitute prima facie evidence of the violation of this section. The Commonwealth need not prove that the device or mechanism in question was in an operative condition or being operated.
B. A person shall not be guilty of a violation of this section when the device or mechanism in question, at the time of the alleged offense, had no power source and was not readily accessible for use by the driver or any passenger in the vehicle.
C. This section shall not apply to motor vehicles owned by the Commonwealth or any political subdivision thereof and used by law-enforcement officers in their official duties, nor to the sale of any such device or mechanism to law-enforcement agencies for use in their official duties.
D. No demerit points shall be awarded by the Commissioner for violations of this section. Any demerit points awarded by the Commissioner prior to July 1, 1992, for any violation of this section shall be rescinded and the driving record of any person awarded demerit points for a violation of this section shall be amended to reflect such rescission.

 

I have the escort redline and beltronics sti driver (on 2 sep. cars) hardwired and mounted by the rearview mirror. In theory these 2 radar detectors are supposed to be undetectable to the latest Spectre IV RDD, but I've used them so far in VA and no issues.

A lot of people these days have GPS's and stuff mounted on the windshield so cops aren't specifically looking to see if your radar is hooked up on the dash. If they catch you its cause you were probably legit speeding and got you with laser before you could slow down fast enough. I've personally never heard of anyone caught with a RDD before though.

 

You could spend the money and get the V-1 hardwired with display attached on dash with velcro, like a certain AZ member, who shall remain nameless, has in their BMW. But radar detectors are not always going to keep you from getting a ticket as my last "Careless driving" citation proves.

 

I plan on getting a 9500ci, I would settle (lol) for a V1 but they are not undetectable and the fact they look ugly as hell.

 

Never been caught passing through, but im sure someone has

 

My V1 gets a signal from newer model Audis. I wonder if they've had any issues getting pulled over because the RDDs picked them up.

 

Take it for what its worth, I have a friend who is a trooper.
As long as the detector is on its detectable.
When mine goes off I just turn it off...

 

Not if its undetectable, your logic is flawed what if they aren't running radar and just Spectre IV? Then your screwed.

 

You asked...
Not my logic, just passing on what I was told from a Va State Trooper.
Did some web searches and found this...
One can detect a radar detector unit with a VG-1/VG-2 interceptor , or a Spectre III/IV.. ( va state police use the Spectre ). Most high end detectors are only detectable from a fairly close range making the RDD useless if you pay attention and can shut it down when you are getting lit up.

The Spectre does not really give a direction of the signal , just a strength/proximity meter. .

Hence my point being when mine goes off I turn it off till I have passed the trooper. I have a 9500IX....
I think your logic is wrong...

 

I have personally received a citation for possession of a radar detector in the state of VA because I told the officer I had a radar that was hard wired into the car. I was actually pulled over a second time because they detected a radar detector, but that time I lied and got away because I had 2. I actually just purchased Escort's Smart Radar and look forward to testing it out in VA.

 

The Virginia State Police and some local police departments in Virginai use radar detector detectors (RDD). There are some radar detectors (RD) that are can not be detected by the RDD. Escort makes the 9500CI remote installed radar detector and Escort Redline. Beltronics which is basically a division of Escort makes the STiR+ install radar detector and the Beltronics STi Magnum. These four radar detectors are the only ones that can not be detected by any RDD.

The Valentine 1 and Escort's Smart Radar can be detected by RDD.

If you live in VA or travel through VA, hardwire your windshield mount radar detecor (Redline or STi Magnum) and mount it at the top of your windshield. If the cop sees what looks like a radar detector and a power cord hanging down, you can be pulled over.

 

FWIW, I got a ticket in VA last weekend for having my RD running. It's a V1, and was mounted on the windshield (was in a rental, so it wasn't hardwired). I was in a pack with other cars in front and behind me, and the cop was nestled in the median in a break between a bunch of trees. It's possible that he saw it in my windshield driving by, but I doubt it....everyone has windshield-mounted GPS's these days, so I don't know how he could tell a difference...especially if you're a cop and see thousands of cars zip by you all day long. So perhaps he had a RD-detector that picked up my V1, but I don't know for sure...

Anyway, he did write the SN of my V1 on the citation...I asked him and he said they use the info for court purposes. It's only a $40 violation, but with the surcharges, it'll end up being $100 total. Lame.

 

The Smart Radar is actually built using the same architecture as the Redline and the 9500CI. According to the escort radar forums and sales website the Smart Radar is undetectable by VG2 as well as all Spectre RDD devices all the way thru the most recent Spectre IV+ devices. The Valentine 1 however is detectable at close proximity to RDDs.

 

i run my rocky mount rader/cloak with no issues yet.

 

I've been running my Valentine 1 here for the past 8 years or so.

 

radar detectors or like speeding-you can do both for years and no problems. On the otherhand-you can be an unlucky one and get stopped numerous times. You take the chance especially in the Commonwealth of VA

 

Gotta love RMR. As the article says - you'll have better luck with a box of Kleenex sitting on your dash.

Aside from the fact that RMR is absolute worthless trash (and isn't detectable by the cops because it does absolutely nothing,) the reality in VA is this:

Radar detectors are illegal and from the posts here and on other forums, you may get caught.

No amount of "I got away with it for xyz years" will change that fact. Unless those guys are driving the road as you are, with your driving style, at the same time of day and passing the same cops, their ability to evade the law does not have any impact on your future experiences.

The guys that run radar in VA got lucky and you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky?

 

actually it does work. ive been stopped numorous times when they tell me they couldnt get my speed then asked me to pull my detector then their radar was working again. its a 100$ ticket but worth it. because speeding is points on your license. you might want to own one before you go spreading bad info about a product.

 

For the sake of discussion, let's assume for a split second that any RMR product works.

If it actually does what you say it does, then it would be not only be a violation of law in every state but would also violate FCC regulations.

Now that we have that out of the way, please point us to any legitimate non-RMR test that shows that RMR products actually work. My linked test from an Automobile Magazine review shows that RMR devices do virtually nothing.

From your last post it appears that the RMR doesn't work as you've been stopped and ticketed many times.

Back to the topic at hand.

Detectors are illegal in VA
People get stopped and ticketed for having one in VA.
Use one at your own risk and don't come back here whining if you get stopped.

 

i dont give a flying shit what you've read. i own two of the god damn things. stopped plenty of times and have been TOLD BY THE OFFICER i was lucky i had one or i would have a massive speeding ticket. you are truly talking out of your ass with no experience.

 

Good for you. I like how your story changes frequently, so your story is worth as much as your detector.

FWIW, I have plenty of experience with RMR and personally saw a RMR being tested by the FCC. I know it is crap.

Enjoy your RMR device.

 

I wasn't going to the posts about RMR products just because I didn't want to take the thread off topic, but CEB is absolutely correct and RMR products are indeed nothing but boxes that make noise. They offer very poor radar detection and their laser/radar jamming capabilities have never actually been demonstrated as working by a single independent tester. Check out some radar detector forums and actual radar testers and see their thoughts on the products. FYI.

 

my story never changed. its gotten me out of alot. believe what you want but when it comes to experience you have none. have a nice day know it all.

 

Why are you being stopped if this RD works. How many only $100 have you Paid. Is this in Va.

 

If in fact he had been stopped by a cop who "asked him" to turn his radar jammer off then he'd still be in jail.

The Communications Act of 1934 states:

Sec. 333. Willful or malicious interference. No person shall willfully or maliciously interfere with or cause interference to any radio communications of any station licensed or authorized by or under this Act or operated by the United States Government.

(June 19, 1934, ch. 652, title III, Sec. 333, as added Pub. L. 101-396, Sec. 9, Sept. 28, 1990, 104 Stat. 850.)


Sec. 501. General penalty

Any person who willfully and knowingly does or causes or suffers to be done any act, matter, or thing, in this chapter prohibited or declared to be unlawful, or who willfully and knowingly omits or fails to do any act, matter, or thing in this chapter required to be done, or willfully and knowingly causes or suffers such omission or failure, shall, upon conviction thereof, be punished for such offense, for which no penalty (other than a forfeiture) is provided in this chapter, by a fine of not more than $10,000 or by imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year, or both; except that any person, having been once convicted of an offense punishable under this section, who is subsequently convicted of violating any provision of this chapter punishable under this section, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or by imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years, or both.

(June 19, 1934, ch. 652, title V, Sec. 501, 48 Stat. 1100; Mar. 23, 1954, ch. 104, 68 Stat. 30.)


Sec. 510. Forfeiture of communications devices

(a) Violation with willful and knowing intent

Any electronic, electromagnetic, radio frequency, or similar device, or component thereof, used, sent, carried, manufactured, assembled, possessed, offered for sale, sold, or advertised with willful and knowing intent to violate section 301 or 302a of this title, or rules prescribed by the Commission under such sections, may be seized and forfeited to the United States.

The reason I know about RMR is that I visited with the FCC Spectrum Enforcemend Division a few years and we discussed various transportation related devices tested. Of particular note was the RMR that failed lab testing but was actually quite useless outside of the lab environment as it did little either as a detector or a jammer.

The FCC and RMR and

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and yet another

awww, what the hell, here's more

 

tint/noise violation

 

How many times have you been stopped-Those only $100.00 add up. Are these stops in VA.

 

twice. once for each both times also speeding id rather pay 100 than the driver liscence points on my record

 

The escort 9500ci and escort redline have the M3 antenna which is immune from detection from all of the radar detector detectors. Escort Smart Radar has the M4 antenna lke the 8500 series and the 9500ix and are detectable by the Spectre Elite RDD, but are immune to the VG2.

I know the moderators and experts on the Escort Forum very well.

 

JR, I just read all the threads on the Escort Forum in the Smart Radar section. No where does it state that the architecture is the same as the Redline or 9500ci. In this thread Escort Radar (Larry), states the performance (meaning sensitivity of the radar detector) is better than the other M4 based radar detectors and approaches the performance of the redline. http://www.escortradarforum.com/foru...ead.php?t=6312

 

JR, feel free to pm me.

 

No the Audi transmits an RF freq in the same freq police radar does, typical K band correct? A RDD does not pick up other radar signals.

 

Thats because they don't even work to begin with lol

 

Agreed, RMR is worse than the Cobra's they sell at Walmart. FCC regulations do deny the use of it. I will answer his next question now also.

What about laser shifters?

These do not jam Lidar all they do is create a super reflective surface that delays the reading of the Lidar which works by finding the most reflective point on a car (plates, headlights etc) and it will simulate one of those to the point of it not working. If that makes sense you you lol.

 

The current laws do not address laser shifters in most states yet but the ones that work are awfully expensive and outside the scope of this thread.

Can we get back on topic - Radar and VA?

 

I want to know the answer to this- Can you be writtena ticket for having it in your windshield lets say I buy a Redline (100% undetectable) and run it 24/7 in VA how will the cop know I have it powered on and in use if all he sees is the unit in the windshield? Is it illegal to own them in VA or illegal to operate?

Can anyone clarify?

 

when I enter VA below the welcome to VA sign is a sign for radar detectors are illegal. If you have a RD that is on your windshield you are able to plug it in so that is illegal. Basically you would have to keep it in your trunk.