THis is what it said on Cnet

http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers...9.html?tag=txt

 

Sorry, 705 is what I meant. Heck even the 605 is decent.

 

Would you guys ever buy a refurb unit?

Denon 1908 for $348
http://www.dakmart.com/itemdetails/31858/18/

 

My current Denon was a refurb that I bought off uBid. No problems after two years.

 

That outfit has good prices in general. Are they a legit reseller?

 

^ Guess so, i found it on AVS forum

 

That's an awfully tempting price... Heck, they have the receiver I have been eyeing plus a good deal on a CD player. I could move my existing stuff into the basement, then.

Go ahead and buy it. Let me know it goes.

 

Which receiver? Im debating if theres a something better than the Denon 1908 on that site for around $550 that would be a better buy... but im confused as to which.

Few good prices too http://www.accessories4less.com/cgi-...ory/AVReceiver

 

I was referring to the Denon in that dakmart link.

I'm eyeing the 2308, which is only $549.98.

http://www.dakmart.com/itemdetails/31838/173/

 

hmmm, might have to get it.



Is the upconversion to 1080p a big feature? Thought thats what the PS3 was for... Im such a noob

 

^ Nevermind, boner sarlacc explained it to me.

 

Depending on how things go, I'm between the Denon 2308, the Yamaha V861 and the V1800. The snob in me wants the V1800.

 

For the price of the V1800, you can get a Denon 2808 though.

 

Not when you gots a hook up

 

Ya, but I perfer the sound of the higher end Yamahas over the Denons.

 

Oh, really?

 

Yeah, I've always thought Yamahas had a nice overall warm sound while Denons were a bit punchier, especially at the low end. It think it depends on whether you listen to music more or watch movies. I think Yahama is better if you listen to a 50/50 split of music and movies, while the Denon is better if you watch a lot of movies.

 

Line starts with me, fawker.

 

No worries, I'm a patient man.

 

I think im gonna go with the Denon 2308 over the 1908 only because Scrib wants it.

 

Good choice. CircuitCity sells essentially the same receiver, only it's the AVR-888. You could check it out locally before buying.

 

Ok my last post.

Now is the Onkyo 605/705 and Denon 1908/2308 overkill for me? I keep reading about all these features they have for upconverting 1080 and such. But the only thing im hooking up to it will be the PS3 and comcast box, both of which should be sending out 1080 anyways.

So why would i need a receiver to do it too? Couldnt i just spend the money towards something that would offer me better SQ instead of features? Maybe say the MARANTZ SR7001?
http://www.accessories4less.com/cgi-bin/item/MARSR7001

Does that make sense or do i still not understand all this...

Im pulling the trigger on something tomorrow but just dont want to get something with too many features if im giving up SQ. Im confident on how my video is right now, what i want is something that sounds great.

 

That is significantly less then I could get the 7001 for cost. That is last years model, however it is a great receiver. At that price, I would DEFINITELY recommend it.

 

except that its hdmi 1.2 and jesal wants to keep it for a long time. So i would go with something that is 1.3a

 

True. On the flip side, if he is really concerned with image quality, he would run seperate hdmi cables to the tv for each source and then have the ability to adjust the image settings for each device.

 

^ Im ok with doing that since i have two HDMI inputs on the TV and only running two sources (PS3 and comcast box). Both which already have its own settings on the TV.

Also that MARANTZ SR7001 is a refurb unit. So you would pick that over the Denon and Onkyo?

 

Regarding HDMI 1.3

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...light=HDMI+1.3

 

That's an old thread, HDMI 1.3 is most definately necessary if you want any sort of future proofing. All of today's advanced technologies require HDMI 1.3.

There's so few HDMI 1.1/1.2 devices out there now, if you're going to buy something new just get HDMI 1.3.

I'm a big fan of the latest Denon's. They've come a long way in sound quality, most everyone who's heard their latest generation loves the tone. Beyond that, they have the best GUI by far... this to me is ESSENTIAL in a receiver. There's no sense in buying a fancy receiver with oodles of features if they are completely inaccessible.

Not only do the Denon's have an excellent on-screen GUI (over every output no less), many of their models have a web-based GUI. I can control my receiver from my iPhone!


As for Onkyo, they have a decent GUI too. Definately a solid 2nd place next to Denon. Nonetheless I prefer the latest Denon's over the Onkyo's for most everything (especially reliability) except for video processing.

The Denon's use a Faroudja processor, while the Onkyo's have the superior REON processor. If you plan on using your receiver for upconversion/deinterlacing and have a TV where you think you'll be able to see the small differences in detail, then the Onkyo may be for you.

Here's a comparison of the 875 to the 3808, I'm sure much of it applies to the next series down too:
http://www.theosfiles.com/zzz/receiv...vs_3808CI.html


I sold my last Denon receiver after only a few weeks worth of use back in about 2002 and decided I HATED Denon. I bashed them for years and swore I'd never buy one again.

When I bought my new receiver a few months back (a 4308CI) I spent months planning and researching and waiting, only in the final weeks of my decision making process did I decide to try a Denon once again and boy am I glad I did. The Denon is trully a next-gen receiver. There's just not much out there that can compare to the total package.

 

My issue now is that since everything has graduated to HDMI and I have my receiver on all the time for sound (and control the volume on the Yamaha). So I don't have any on-screen capabilities as I pass everything from the component (DTV, DVD directly to the receiver). My main desire is to get that back by passing the HDMI through the receiver.

So Jesal, while you could push it all through to TV directly, I'm not sure if that will make an issue with on-screen functionality with the receiver.

 

Get a receiver with multiple HDMI outputs, that way you can use your TV's multiple input memory (most TV's don't even have this on their HDMI inputs, they share settings... so confirm) while still having an on screen GUI.

 

Thanks soopa, you make good points. One thing i hated about my Yamaha was that the interface was so hard to use. So if Denon is easier to set up that would be a big plus for me.

The funny thing is im sure ill be happy with anything. Not sure why im being so picky about this. I rarely update my receiver so maybe thats why.

Guess im back looking at the Denon with HDMI 1.3

 

Exactly, I keep my receivers longer than any other component of my system.

 

Wonder why this Denon 2308 is much cheaper?
http://www.dakmart.com/itemdetails/31851/18/

 

Cheaper than what?

 

Than this 2308 http://www.dakmart.com/itemdetails/31838/173/

What does SELD mean?

 

Well one is actually the AVR-888, while the other is the 2308.

The only difference is the 2308 has:

12 volt 150mA assignable trigger outputs
RS-232C system control

 

ah, there is a difference, and no jesal, neither is anything need to care about.

 

Yeah, for all intents and purposes, they're the same.

 

OK in that case I went with the avr-888

Phew, glad thats over. Thanks guys for the help, i was overwhelmed when i started this search.

 

Wait til you try and hook it all up.