for those interested in the UI - here's a presentation from the research group that created it: http://www.ted.com/tedtalks/tedtalksplayer.?key=j_han

 

to fix the link....add c f m after the . before the ?

 

and stories like this will solidify the iPhone's ambiguous standing in the smartphone marketplace...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Indus...C-RSSFeeds0312

 

yep, it's great in Upstate, NY / Western MA / Southern Vermont too. like i said, it's def no worse then the Sprint I've had forever.

my fiance moved to cingular from verizon cuz verizon had no coverage near her house.

to each his own.

 

why cingular of all companiess!!!!!!

 

http://money.cnn.com/2007/01/10/comm...ion=2007011009

 

Would you mind elaborating a tad?

<<<

 

Thank god I am with Cingular. On Monday, I bought the new Treo 750. I will be returning it today and purchasing a LG CU500 to hold me over until June. The Treo 750 is nice, but there is nothing innovative about it. It is what I expected and nothing more and has been rather overwhelming so far. The iPhone will be a much better fit for me.

If you haven’t done so already, go through all the QuickTours at http://www.apple.com/iphone/

I am so amazed.

 

i was one of the lead developers brought in to redesign NYTimes.com last spring.

Job's loaded up the NYTimes site as an example on the iPhone.

 

Cool. Good job. I saw Job's load it, but I didn't know you had a hand in that website.

 

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/0...th-the-iphone/

 

FYI, I confirmed with Best Buy... if you buy a Cingular phone now... then upgrade, all it does is start your 2-year contract over again. So you can buy something now, then get the Iphone in June and your 2 years will just start again in June (or whenever you buy the Iphone)...

 

One of the questions in the comments section is good... will Cingular allow you to have this phone without a data plan, or is the data plan mandatory? It would be great to just skip the data plan entirely, since I am in a wifi network probably 95% of the time.

 

By 'upgrade', you mean Cingular will give you the phone for the same price a new customer can buy it for? That can't be right... whats to stop someone from doing that every couple months and selling their old phone for a profit? I know on Sprint you have to wait 18 months from your initial agreement.

 

Cingular required me to get a Data Plan on Monday for my Treo 750, so I would imagine it would be the same here.

What is the possibility of Apple upgrading to 3G between now and June? Since that seems to be everyones major dissapointment.

 

i just switched from tmobile to verizon, FTW!

 

Do you know if you can drop it on Cingular.com?

 

Let me try. lol

 

I can't remove it because it appears to be free until 3/3/07.

 

Thanks!

Blackjack here I come...

 

It doesn't really say anything about that price only being available to "new customers", it just says "2-year contract required". But yes, I agree... there's quite a loop-hole there.
ALTHOUGH, it could be considered an upgrade, which you'd think they'd allow their customers to spend more money with them. As long as you're not downgrading...

 

Right, but still Cingular is subsidizing the price of the phone in exchange for a two year contract. If you are 6 months into a two year contract, you still owe them another 18 months in exchange for that first phone.

 

^ With Verizon I have gotten new phones within 6 months of just signing up... and never had to do anything with the old phone and never owed them any money for it either.

This was the way I asked about it in Best Buy and they pretty much verified this. If I get a new phone at any point before my 2-years are up, the day the new phone is activated starts the 2 year countdown all over again. So if I buy a Blackjack now, and an Iphone in June/July, my 2 years resets when the Iphone is activated... so it the contract now goes through June/July 2009 instead of Jan. 2009...

I mean, what do they care? At this point they just retained me as a customer for 6 more months by default, all b/c I decided to change phones...

 

Oh, I was wondering why there was no mention of this in Ramblings...

 

because they are giving you a $100-$200 discount on the phone. That is worth 24 months of contract time for them. If they give it to you after six months, that 200 rebate only got them 1/4 of that. If you could do that, you could get a w810i or similar phone every 6 months for free and sell it, which would pay for 4 months of service out of every 6 months.

I just got off the phone with Cingular customer service. I signed a 24 month agreement on Oct 29, 2006. I am eligible for an upgrade August 29, 2008. I think Best Buy guy was yanking your chain.

 

Not sure if this has been said here, way too many posts...


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=12482

 

So that means existing Cingular customers will have to pay full price and extend their contracts?

 

From what the article says, you just have to sign up for a 2 year plan as per any normal Cingular phone. They just won't give you the option to buy just the Cingular branded phone for full retail price (which you can do with all other Cingular phones).

I wonder if Apple will sell this in their store unlocked, even though they have the Cingular agreement.

 

http://www.smartmoney.com/bn/ON/inde...11-000479-0537


By Ben Charny


SAN FRANCISCO (Dow Jones) -- Cisco Systems Inc. on Wednesday sued Apple Inc., claiming that the maker of computers and media players doesn't have permission to name its newest device the iPhone.


Cisco (CSCO) has owned the trademark for "iPhone" since 2000, the result of its purchase of InfoGear, which owned the trademark previously. Since December, Cisco's wireless division, Linksys, has been shipping a family of cordless and wireless phones under the iPhone brand.


"We think Cisco's trademark lawsuit is silly," said Natalie Kerris, an Apple spokeswoman.


Several companies already use the name "iPhone" for Voice-over-Internet products, Kerris said.


"Apple is the first company to ever use the 'iPhone' name for a cell phone," she said. "We believe that Cisco's trademark registration is tenuous at best."


Kerris added: "If Cisco wants to challenge us on it, we are very confident we would prevail."


Late Wednesday, Cisco asked a U.S. district judge for Northern California to order Apple not to use the name for a device that it introduced on Tuesday during an annual trade show.


Apple intends to begin selling its iPhone sometime in June, which provides a five-month cushion for both sides to reach some kind of settlement. Should that not happen, the suit could impact sales of the device.


The lawsuit follows years of negotiations between the two companies, which continued even as Apple (AAPL) Chief Executive Steve Jobs was introducing the iPhone Tuesday during the Macworld show in San Francisco.


Cisco took the iPhone's introduction as a sign that Apple had agreed to Cisco's terms for use of the trademark. In a statement issued Tuesday, Cisco said that it suspected Apple had agreed to terms, and was expecting to hear from the company later that day.


But the paperwork never arrived, a Cisco spokesman said Wednesday.


"Cisco entered into negotiations with Apple in good faith after Apple repeatedly asked permission to use Cisco's iPhone name," Mark Chandler, Cisco's senior vice president and general counsel, said in a statement. "There is no doubt that Apple's new phone is very exciting, but they should not be using our trademark without permission."


(END) Dow Jones Newswires

01-11-07 0537ET

 

Right, but if you get a new phone again 6 months later, now they're getting 30 months contract time out of you since the two years starts over again when you buy the new phone.



Like I said, I've done this with Verizon a couple of times and never had a problem. Verizon has a "new every two" promotion which they've had for some time now. Basically, every two years you're eligible for an upgrade and when you buy a new phone, you get a $100 rebate on top of whatever incentives the phone has already. When I upgraded my Verizon phones 6 months into the contract, all that happened was the 2 years started over again, and I did NOT get that rebate... but I still was able to buy the phone at whatever the 2 year price was on the shelf. One of the times it was a cheap phone, so it was free if you did a 2 year agreement, so even though I wasn't eligible for an upgrade b/c it had been less then a year, I got that phone for free, and stated my 2 year contract all over again.

According to Best Buy, same applies for Cingular. Now, whether BB handles things differently then a Cingular store or Kiosk... I don't know, but the BB I went to would allow me to get a new phone whenever I wanted to, but the contract would start over again at the time of the new phone activation. The only problem is that BB does not carry Smartphones... so before I did anything I would check with a local Cingular store/kiosk and get it in writing from the manager...

 

Zunephone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRLRjKCGHek&eurl=

 

I'm closing this thread because there's not much to discuss about the Apple TV or new Airport's and the iPhone discussion is already raging and more appropriately placed in the following thread:

https://acurazine.com/forums/technology-16/its-official-apple-iphone-cingular-355953/