SamDoe1

Yeah...25mbps is definitely not enough for 4K HDR streams. Well it is, but then you can't do anything else at the same time.

I do enjoy quite a few of the Netflix shows but I've already blown through a lot of the seasons already. I usually will start it up again in the spring time when the new seasons of everything drop and broadcast TV series go on break. Normal TV has some damn good shows these days...

I get 500mbps+ data transfer speeds internal to the network on the 5ghz band from opposite sides and levels of the house, guessing that points to the router not being an issue. The router is within line of sight of the TV without anything in the way. Not a total newb at this one.

atomlinks

I have 2 decent sized Samsung TV's, both have built in Netflix/Hulu Plus but I don't their apps. I have a couple of Roku's hardwired and works much better. I don't see my self ever going back to cable TV, all we need is Netflix, Hulu Plus and SlingTV during football season(live streaming ESPN) and free over the air of course.

Doom878

From what I'm reading, this might not be the holiday season to go 4k unless you're TV shits itself. Really most of the high end models are the ones with good processing HDR. Not sure we will see deep discounts in those yet. Also if you're a 360 S gamer looking to go 4k (I might get one for 4K Bluray use) then there are only certain TV's that are compatible via a list I saw on Reddit. Don't just buy through slickdeals a 60" UHD 4k for $600 on sale. Chances are it won't be a huge upgrade.

SamDoe1

This has been the case for a while now. Many people go out and find an $800 4K TV and assume it to be as good as a $3k 4K TV of the same size.

I honestly think optical storage is going to go away here soon. To the point where it's not even worth it to buy a 4K player. Streaming is the way of the future for sure. Just make sure you have a compatible streaming device and good enough internet speed and you should be good to go.

justnspace

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thus why i bought a 1080p set last year.
until 4k streaming is prevalent, no need to upgrade

Doom878

But seriously if you're killing off optical devices, I REALLY want at least HD Audio TrueHD/DTS-HD codecs and they still don't stream them.

SamDoe1

I'm sure it'll happen in due time. 5 years ago, we didn't stream much of anything and today is a whole different ball game.

Doom878

You can always get this at $4,500. Server that streams 4k content with HD audio including Atmos but you have to buy the content from their store at $30 a movie.

Kaleidescape Strato 4K Ultra HD Movie Player Reveiw | GearOpen

atomlinks

Eventually get a lot of users streaming that kind of bandwidth, the US ISP's might actually have to update their network/intrastructure to accommodate. Can't wait to see my monthly internet provider bill go up and actually be used for something.. :-)

SamDoe1

I'm dreading the discussion I need to have with Comcast about increasing my service...

Doom878

Bend over

2001AudiS4

Kaleidescape was all but dead. The studios essentially forced their closure due to copyright laws...

They did close, but after a short period, open their doors back up.

doopstr

I'll just put this here since I didn't know where else to put it.
Samsung is adding new obtrusive ads to your old smart TV
http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/30/11...on?christmas=1

Doom878

Anyone keeping up on 2017 CES. More OLED options from different companies although they're made from LG. TV's getting thinner, easier to mount, etc. I'd post links but I just got busy as hell.

justnspace

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meh. for the early adopters, cool...
but I'm still rockin a 1080p set cuz there's really no 4k or HDR content available for me, yet.

almost like the curved screen fad. so many of my co-workers went out and bought the curved screens.....
now, they not even hot any more..

2001AudiS4

Actually, its the opposite. The ergonomics of all the news are shit. Inputs that are in terrible locations. Some TVs have the power plug so close to where the mounting arms attach to the TV that you have to modify the mount. Bump outs, recessed screw holes, external input adaptors, external power supplies. The list goes on. None of the engineers of these things have ever actually installed one.

cu2wagon

I read a couple article about the new LG and Samsung flagships. Two things stuck out, in reverse order:

The curved screen thing seems to be dead or at best bleeding out. The two top of the line sets don't have a curved option. So that may be a moot point going forward. Tough break, my coworkers who are cooler than me (or so they thought).

Second, the sets have gotten super flat and are basically just a LCD panel. All the guts have been moved to a secondary box that is mounted (or placed, perhaps) below the display, like on a shelf or something. Off hand, I think one of the manufacturers incorporated it as a speaker bar. Regardless, the trick thing about that, I thought, was that the connection from the guts to the display screen is a super thin cable. Some speculate it's optical, and a tiny power lead. So that makes mounting pretty easy, almost like hanging a picture. Then you run the wire (I'm envisioning flat and thinner than a coax) to the guts and Bob's your uncle.

cu2wagon

Here's one on the Samsung Q9:
These Are the Only Cables Coming Out of Samsung's New TV

2001AudiS4

All TV's that have a external input box are a royal PITA. The cables are always too short, and often difficult to work with. Pioneer and others used to have monitors with external boxes with cables with large ends, roughly the size of an HDMI head and a DVI head (always had to connections). To run anything longer than a basic TV hang required ordering a long cable costing north of $400-$500. Snaking them were a pain. For anything but a basic hang, they are terrible to work with. I've hung every type of TV out there, and I can tell you that although the sets have gotten much lighter, the mounting of them has actually become a much larger pita compared to a few years ago.

cu2wagon

Hmm. I can see your point. And now that you mention it, it would seem entirely on par for that wire dongle jobber to be proprietary so one can't just go buy a 12 foot HDMI cable to extend it. Especially since they're running power along side it.

From a business sense, it makes perfect sense... TV comes with a 2.5 footer, but no one will ever be able to use it... Optional <fill in usable length> cord: $300. Genius!

But it *seems* really keen. And I want to like the idea... As I still make due with a 1080 DLP on it's third replacement bulb.

thoiboi

I guess im the only one that didn't have a problem hanging older HDTVs?

They really weren't that bad were they?

2001AudiS4

I just said older TVs were easier to hang than newer ones. Weight is the only thing that made an older TV more challenging in some circumstances.

justnspace

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you brought up a good point about the power cord location.
luckily, my mount didnt interfere with it, but it was pretty close

Doom878

At least manufacturers are starting to include both HDR10 and Dolby Vision. Doesn't that still optimize 1080p content?

SamDoe1

This will be the way to go...when they finally realize that they should just use a basic universal connector like USB-C or something that is cheap and easily available in a variety of lengths. Or hell, just use HDMI to transfer all the data in one cable.

The OLED thing looks cool but these sets are still going to be in the $5k+ range for a 65" model. I'll wait until OLED comfortably drops below $2000 before I jump into that one. That's the level where the technology is usually matured enough to be reliable for the long run.

Doom878

Yeah hopefully end of next year as I saw an LG for $3k less $600 GC at Newegg. But from my understanding OLED wasn't as good gaming vs a FALED. True?

SamDoe1

I think it's the opposite. The OLED has a true high refresh rate compared to the one on LCD panels. FA works great but isn't as good as individually lit pixels. The downside of OLED used to be burn in from video game HUDs but I think that issue is pretty non-existent these days. The LG for $3k was probably either a 1080P model or no bigger than a 55".

Doom878

No dude it was this year's B6P

https://slickdeals.net/f/9551360-65-...src=SiteSearch

A lot of publications loved the LG W7 but it has to be wall mounted and a sound bar is required

LG?s New W-Series OLED 4K HDR TVs From CES 2017 Aren?t Too Thin, They?re Downright Beautiful -

Sarlacc

One doesnt really have anything to do with the other.

Dolby Vision and HDR10 are color profiles/wider gamut ranges.

Haven't read up on HDR10...but Dolby Vision basically reads metadata of dolby vision supported content and then displays it according to your TV and its settings.

What processing engine the TV uses is what will deal with 4k/1080 etc.

justnspace

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Here's a rant....
Sony/Google..More sony pushed an OTA update last month promoting "interactive TV" some Samba app that runs at all times in the back ground.
fucking up Netflix and a whole bunch of chit, like not being able to turn the TV on with remote or physical button until a set amount of time...I believe the app is draining resources over an 8 hour period of screen off time. It won't recognize input commands.

Is this the future of cars too!!!?!?!

Majofo

Majofo

Really liking this 4th gen Apple TV.. also got a Fire Stick.. meh.
Did I just say that???

Majofo

Justn, get a Sammy next time. They never update their chit. I'm constantly annoyed with my Sony TV.
Great picture, but super slow. You can't do anything for like a minute after you turn it on (Powering On.. please wait).
Tuning has always taken forever.. super slow between OTA channel changes.

Anyways, this Apple TV bypasses all that shit and makes the TV it's bitch. Full audio and power control, love it.
I also use it as my primary Directv Now device. Highly recommend.

justnspace

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I want the SHIELD 2
I'm Google's bitch

SamDoe1

Mine started doing this too! I noticed that it wouldn't respond to the remote or the physical button until I unplugged it and plugged it back in, then it worked just like normal. Do you know for sure this is the app or what's causing the issue?

justnspace

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I came up with the conclusion by myself.
OTA update in Dec. or Jan... whichever one brought SAMBA interactive app
after OTA update, Sony introduces SAMBA interactive tv.
Samba interactive is running in background AT ALL TIMES, you cannot disable it.

so, somehow the update/Samba App is preventing power from input after 8 hours of screen off time.
you do not have to unplug TV to get it to work again, simply press power button once...and wait 5 minutes...then try again...
remote will be responsive

SamDoe1

That's stupid AF. Did you put in a complaint to Sony?

thoiboi

justnspace

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Sony Forums are CRAWLING with "my TV is broken"
although, I dont think people have concluded that it's the OTA update that caused it.
only true techies will understand or put 2+2 together that the update broke TV's
and I tried to register on the Sony forums, but the sign up involves too much...it isnt simple....name and email...no they want some other fuckin info too.

there's no "leave feedback" button on my tv menu to fuckin give feedback, so i've been quiet on that front.
But I'm DEF. sure Sony KNOWS about it.
we'll just have to wait for them to push an update

SamDoe1

This is my gripe with software updates like this. If this caused a WIDESPREAD issue with all of the Sony TV's out there, how did they not catch this during testing? I love the fact that software can be remotely updated whenever or that updates can make old stuff better but this is fucking bullshit that my $2k TV shits the bed because someone didn't do their job.