Dishwasher rant
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Dishwasher rant
So time to replace the old dishwasher.
I make my decision, select a very nice (pretty much top o the line) KitchenAid.
I get the dishwasher home...yank the old one out, begin to install the new one.
I notice that the dishwasher "frame" seems a bit odd. Looking more closely, I realize that a very heavy gauge corner bracket it bent. Not bent from being dropped, but as if it was bent at the factory, and then forced into position, and then riveted to the frame!!!!!!!!!
As a result the front door mechanism does not open and close well at all.
Sux to be me. I repack the the dishwasher, back into the box....take it back to the store and return it. No hassle there, but they have no stock on hand for another.....so I gotta wait until Tuesday (tomorrow).
You say tomorrow is not that bad.......but this all went down the day before thanksgiving....went through thanksgiving with no dishwasher
Hope the new one tomorrow is not a "friday afternoon dishwasher".
....and seriously now, who hardwires their dishwashers anymore?!?!?
Would it be that hard to include a standard plug with the dishwasher?!?!
I make my decision, select a very nice (pretty much top o the line) KitchenAid.
I get the dishwasher home...yank the old one out, begin to install the new one.
I notice that the dishwasher "frame" seems a bit odd. Looking more closely, I realize that a very heavy gauge corner bracket it bent. Not bent from being dropped, but as if it was bent at the factory, and then forced into position, and then riveted to the frame!!!!!!!!!
As a result the front door mechanism does not open and close well at all.
Sux to be me. I repack the the dishwasher, back into the box....take it back to the store and return it. No hassle there, but they have no stock on hand for another.....so I gotta wait until Tuesday (tomorrow).
You say tomorrow is not that bad.......but this all went down the day before thanksgiving....went through thanksgiving with no dishwasher
Hope the new one tomorrow is not a "friday afternoon dishwasher".
....and seriously now, who hardwires their dishwashers anymore?!?!?
Would it be that hard to include a standard plug with the dishwasher?!?!
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Divorce is expensive!
That sucks.
Everyone? It's code.
I make my decision, select a very nice (pretty much top o the line) KitchenAid.
I get the dishwasher home...yank the old one out, begin to install the new one.
I notice that the dishwasher "frame" seems a bit odd. Looking more closely, I realize that a very heavy gauge corner bracket it bent. Not bent from being dropped, but as if it was bent at the factory, and then forced into position, and then riveted to the frame!!!!!!!!!
As a result the front door mechanism does not open and close well at all.
Sux to be me. I repack the the dishwasher, back into the box....take it back to the store and return it. No hassle there, but they have no stock on hand for another.....so I gotta wait until Tuesday (tomorrow).
I get the dishwasher home...yank the old one out, begin to install the new one.
I notice that the dishwasher "frame" seems a bit odd. Looking more closely, I realize that a very heavy gauge corner bracket it bent. Not bent from being dropped, but as if it was bent at the factory, and then forced into position, and then riveted to the frame!!!!!!!!!
As a result the front door mechanism does not open and close well at all.
Sux to be me. I repack the the dishwasher, back into the box....take it back to the store and return it. No hassle there, but they have no stock on hand for another.....so I gotta wait until Tuesday (tomorrow).
....and seriously now, who hardwires their dishwashers anymore?!?!?
Would it be that hard to include a standard plug with the dishwasher?!?!
Would it be that hard to include a standard plug with the dishwasher?!?!
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It's true for ovens and the like, but 1 or 2 screws to the bottom of the countertop while the rest of the unit just sits on the floor is not considered permanent out here in the crazy West.
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The whole Kitchen Aid/Maytag/Whirlpool conglomerate has gone to hell. I bought a Whirlpool gold fridge and had to "lemon" it after it ruined all of my food 4 times, and of course no re-imbursement for all that food either! Apparently the "foam insulation" had gaps inside allowing for ice-buildup thus blocking the vents...
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Anything installed below counter level or in a cabinet has to be hard-wired.
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Garbage disposal plugs in too
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It's like the land before time in Illinois
Do they let you guys pump your own gas out there? :wink:
#13
That sucks! I installed new appliances for my mom in a house she bought and they all included plugs (dish washer, refrigerator which is standard, range hood, and stove but it was gas but the electric ones just plugged in too).
#14
And California is known by the State of Illinois to be a nanny state.
Our problem is more likely the overly powerful electrician's union.
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#16
My dishwasher, garbage disposal, electric stove, and hood microwave all plug in.
FWIW, an appliance power cable isn't all that expensive. Had to buy one when I replaced my dishwasher.
1.5 years of use out of the mid-grade Maytag dishwasher I bought and so far it's been great.
FWIW, an appliance power cable isn't all that expensive. Had to buy one when I replaced my dishwasher.
1.5 years of use out of the mid-grade Maytag dishwasher I bought and so far it's been great.
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UPDATE:
Installed the new dishwasher last night with success.
Boy is this dishwasher whisper quiet!
The wash cycle is bizzare....kinda like how the front load washing machines operate....it seems like it cycles/washes for a bit, drains a little, washes a bit more, drains a bit more....rather interesting.
Dishes and glasses came out absolutely perfect.
Integrated food grinder in the dishwasher is a must! Pretty much throw your plates in "as is"....and all the food goes away in the wash. No filters to clog, no food ending up in your glasses, no need to "clean" your plates before you put them in the dishwasher.
Installed the new dishwasher last night with success.
Boy is this dishwasher whisper quiet!
The wash cycle is bizzare....kinda like how the front load washing machines operate....it seems like it cycles/washes for a bit, drains a little, washes a bit more, drains a bit more....rather interesting.
Dishes and glasses came out absolutely perfect.
Integrated food grinder in the dishwasher is a must! Pretty much throw your plates in "as is"....and all the food goes away in the wash. No filters to clog, no food ending up in your glasses, no need to "clean" your plates before you put them in the dishwasher.
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I don't know the specifics (make or model of either), but I don't think either have a Kitchen Aid.
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I'd be interested to see how this turns out in a year or so. A good family friend as well as my fiancée's aunt & uncle have dishwashers that you're supposed to be able to do this with and they have problems with the water jets getting clogged from time to time.
I don't know the specifics (make or model of either), but I don't think either have a Kitchen Aid.
I don't know the specifics (make or model of either), but I don't think either have a Kitchen Aid.
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From a quick Google search, it looks like KitchenAid is a brand under Whirlpool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KitchenAid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KitchenAid
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Whirlpool corp "is" or "can be":
Amana, KitchenAid, Maytag, Jenn-Air, Inglis, Admiral, Magic Chef, Ikea, Kenmore, Thermadore.
but wait...there's more!!!
....for example LG makes some refrigerators for Kenmore, while Sanyo makes some Kenmore freezers...while at the same time Whirlpool makes some refrigerators for Kenmore.....Electrolux also makes many appliances under the Kenmore name as well.
....BSH makes Bosch & Thermadore....Thermadore makes Viking refrigerators.
What I'm getting at is you really don't know (without research) who really makes your brand of appliance.
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I'm usually all over the board when it comes to appliances.
I'm no brand loyalist, however, I do have some brands that I won't touch.
I came close to pulling the trigger on a Samsung dishwasher, but they did not offers some of the features I wanted. I did find the Samsung washer interiors to be top-notch, however.