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Originally Posted by sasha
I have two close friends whose parents have a 15-year old gap and they are happily married.
Such cases are not that common but still very possible. Let's all be open-minded here.
Such cases are not that common but still very possible. Let's all be open-minded here.
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Originally Posted by jimcol711
sweetie, youve got alot to learn, you just turned 20....and i cannot in good conscience take back anything i typed because it is all 100% truth. it is understandable that you would not want to agree with it but its like i said....whether or not people admit or speak openly about it, its true....
call me an asshole all you want but 10 years from now when youre life is totally different and far more stable and you look back on your life you will be the one saying "god damn, that asshole on the acura forum was right!!!"
being 100% confident that this will occur makes me comfortable not taking any offense to being called an asshole. its ok, i forgive you.
call me an asshole all you want but 10 years from now when youre life is totally different and far more stable and you look back on your life you will be the one saying "god damn, that asshole on the acura forum was right!!!"
being 100% confident that this will occur makes me comfortable not taking any offense to being called an asshole. its ok, i forgive you.
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Oh lord... I see JIM made himself at home...
It sure does make it interesting 'round here....
He does make some valid points tho'...
#125
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What's this girl expect people to say. Picking up dudes in a bar that are old enough for her to be her father. It was obviously a hookup. She let the dude bang her after the first date so let's save "it could be love" crap.
Not sure if I really agree with JimCol, but his eval albeit premature because this girl's history would need to be examined....but on the face.....how could this girl get pissed at jmcol.
Not sure if I really agree with JimCol, but his eval albeit premature because this girl's history would need to be examined....but on the face.....how could this girl get pissed at jmcol.
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im glad to see that at least SOME people have the sense and the balls to admit that they agree with me (whether partially or fully). i refuse to hold back, beat around the bush, sugar coat, etc....i call it like i see it and while i am not always right....i am USUALLY right and thats good enough for me....
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Originally Posted by Zapata
What's this girl expect people to say. Picking up dudes in a bar that are old enough for her to be her father. It was obviously a hookup. She let the dude bang her after the first date so let's save "it could be love" crap.
Not sure if I really agree with JimCol, but his eval albeit premature because this girl's history would need to be examined....but on the face.....how could this girl get pissed at jmcol.
Not sure if I really agree with JimCol, but his eval albeit premature because this girl's history would need to be examined....but on the face.....how could this girl get pissed at jmcol.
Sounds like a double standard to me.
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sez it all..
old milwaukee is tha mothafuckin SHIZNIT 4 bucks for a 6 pack of pounders, can't beat that shit yeeeehaaawww
on topic: i think she can do whatever she wants...there IS a double standard....if one of you guys hooked up with a 38 year old women you'd have "OH MAN MILF" and "THATS AWESOME" shit flying around more than if the opposite happens. Try and view it from both sides
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Originally Posted by jimcol711
im glad to see that at least SOME people have the sense and the balls to admit that they agree with me (whether partially or fully). i refuse to hold back, beat around the bush, sugar coat, etc....i call it like i see it and while i am not always right....i am USUALLY right and thats good enough for me....
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Originally Posted by ric
And what shall we call the 38-year old who picked her up - a bottomfeeding scumbag? Doubt it---------- a number of posts seem to think he got lucky.
Sounds like a double standard to me.
Sounds like a double standard to me.
He's not to clean either.........
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And what shall we call the 38-year old who picked her up - a bottomfeeding scumbag? Doubt it---------- a number of posts seem to think he got lucky.
Sounds like a double standard to me.
Sounds like a double standard to me.
Does anyone here actually not consider him a bottom feeding scumbag? I mean dont most guys in bars fall under that heading anyway
All guys are sluts, most will admit it with pride, if superglossy wants to admit it with pride than more power to her (again i go back to my earlier post where i don't know if she is a slut just that she is easy).
And i think we all agree he got lucky. I mean I think we all think that a 20 year old girl does not need a whole lot of skill to pick up a guy (let a lone a 38 year old) but he must have had his child molester skills in overdrive that night to land her
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here's another angle: when you guys (and gals) have a 20 year daughter, think of her being bought drinks and taken home by a 38-year-old that night doing what she described to her.
you'd probably kill him because you knew excatly what he was up to. :angryfire
you'd probably kill him because you knew excatly what he was up to. :angryfire
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Originally Posted by 95gt
Does anyone here actually not consider him a bottom feeding scumbag? I mean dont most guys in bars fall under that heading anyway
All guys are sluts, most will admit it with pride, if superglossy wants to admit it with pride than more power to her (again i go back to my earlier post where i don't know if she is a slut just that she is easy).
And i think we all agree he got lucky. I mean I think we all think that a 20 year old girl does not need a whole lot of skill to pick up a guy (let a lone a 38 year old) but he must have had his child molester skills in overdrive that night to land her
All guys are sluts, most will admit it with pride, if superglossy wants to admit it with pride than more power to her (again i go back to my earlier post where i don't know if she is a slut just that she is easy).
And i think we all agree he got lucky. I mean I think we all think that a 20 year old girl does not need a whole lot of skill to pick up a guy (let a lone a 38 year old) but he must have had his child molester skills in overdrive that night to land her
At any rate, these two identical thread subjects have generated totally different responses. This is an interesting study of the double standard we all may subconciously hold. Batin was given props for landing a 19 year old despite being 36. Compare that to what has become of this thread and we have ourselves an interesting study of gender bias and double standards.
((Although consciously, I do agree that this dude is a bottom feeding scumbag. ))
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Originally Posted by GoDucksCLSPride
I think Batin Dean aka "Love Doctor" was in this exact same situation; only he was the possible expletive described above. if i remember correctly, the young lady's box smelled like week old hot garbage. (not releveant, just the details i recall from the thread )
At any rate, these two identical thread subjects have generated totally different responses. This is an interesting study of the double standard we all may subconciously hold. Batin was given props for landing a 19 year old despite being 36. Compare that to what has become of this thread and we have ourselves an interesting study of gender bias and double standards.
((Although consciously, I do agree that this dude is a bottom feeding scumbag. ))
At any rate, these two identical thread subjects have generated totally different responses. This is an interesting study of the double standard we all may subconciously hold. Batin was given props for landing a 19 year old despite being 36. Compare that to what has become of this thread and we have ourselves an interesting study of gender bias and double standards.
((Although consciously, I do agree that this dude is a bottom feeding scumbag. ))
Frankly, I don't think the young woman is a slut, and the evidence as to the guy being a scumbag is hardly in yet. As the one who can speak to the issues of being 38 from the other side of the fence, I would note that I may have more sympathy for him than most - I really doubt that he is a bottom-feeding scumbag, those folks hang out in worse places than the place he connected to this young woman. I would guess that, for some reason, he is unberably lonely, and at 38, may be freaking out over the big 40, at which point, you are officially middle aged, and no longer young. Is he proving his virility? probably, but it also appears that he is something of a sexual athlete and one that apparently enjoys pleasuring his partner a great deal, which tends to skew the bottom-feeding scumbag theory, bottomfeeding scumbags look for scoring, and not particularly for pleasuring their partner, and the whole event takes on a compulsive nature............
If I had a 20-year old hanging out with a 38 year old, I'd freak, but try to hang in there. I was less than thrilled when my 65-year old father in law connected with a bimbette excactly one year younger than him, and she has proven, through his life and now her widowhood, to be a moneygrubbing gold-digger. That said, I would want to know if this is just some sexual scorekeeping on the part of my daughter, and I would, if the reltionship turned real, want to know how to connect with this guy. If it just a three-night stand, a concept that I am entirely familiar with (somethimes with women both far younger and far older than myself........... I thing I would look at it as an escapade, and look to see if there is a pattern. The last thing I would do as a parent, is freak out, particularly given my own rather broad participation in life, but would try to stay with her in some way. At twenty, it's her life................................. and if I've done my job via discretion and responsibilty, I've gotta cross my fingers and hope the notions stay.....................
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1/2 age + 7. age difference matter - the tried and true french formula does.
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Originally Posted by supermegaglossy
oh man.. it was my birthday last night, so i went out to a bar with a few of my girls, and we saw these guys that my 2 girlfriends knew, and we were hanging, etc. then eventually one of the guys was buying me birthday drinks, etc, and then me and the guy start having like real conversation, it was actually quite nice.
but he's 38.
... me and one of my friends went back to the guy's (HUGE) house with his friend, and we were hanging out, then me and the 38 y.o. started messing around (no sex) and this guy is like absolutely googley-eyed for me. he thinks i'm the coolest girl, blah blah. BUT HE"S 38!!!
he wants me to go out to dinner with him in the next couple of days... i'm scared! i mean, he's pretty goodlooking, loaded, and very nice. oh, and republican
what should i doooo????
(oh, and he eats great pussy).
but he's 38.
... me and one of my friends went back to the guy's (HUGE) house with his friend, and we were hanging out, then me and the 38 y.o. started messing around (no sex) and this guy is like absolutely googley-eyed for me. he thinks i'm the coolest girl, blah blah. BUT HE"S 38!!!
he wants me to go out to dinner with him in the next couple of days... i'm scared! i mean, he's pretty goodlooking, loaded, and very nice. oh, and republican
what should i doooo????
(oh, and he eats great pussy).
If he is having (oral) sex first time you met the sex is all that's all he is interested in. He is promiscous.
Remember you are also having sex with everyone else he had sex before - do you know they were and he is HIV free?
FYI I am a guy.
#138
Originally Posted by ric
At twenty, it's her life................................. and if I've done my job via discretion and responsibilty, I've gotta cross my fingers and hope the notions stay.....................
You can say there is a double standard, but the fact remains that males and females hold different emotional quotient’s, and that gap is huge when relating a 20 year old girl to a 38 year old man.
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Originally Posted by Zapata
What's this girl expect people to say. Picking up dudes in a bar that are old enough for her to be her father. It was obviously a hookup. She let the dude bang her after the first date so let's save "it could be love" crap.
Not sure if I really agree with JimCol, but his eval albeit premature because this girl's history would need to be examined....but on the face.....how could this girl get pissed at jmcol.
Not sure if I really agree with JimCol, but his eval albeit premature because this girl's history would need to be examined....but on the face.....how could this girl get pissed at jmcol.
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Originally Posted by fdl
the slut question.
I wouldn't say slut. Like others mentioned, we don't know her history. But definently easy, too easy IMO.
I personally wouldn't want a serious relationship with a girl that let me go down on her on the first time we met and let me bang her on the first date, but thats me.
But if she doesn't have a problem with it then neither should we, its her life.
But we can most definently have opinions, since she's sharing.
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I'm not saying she IS a slut for sure. We cant say that with only one story. But if I had to place a $10 bet it would be that this sort of thing has happened before, and will happen again, and again. So all signs point to slut and that where my money would be.
But your right she may just be easy. (Although its a fine line between being easy and being a slut. )
And either way, I'm not trying to offend. If she is a slut, then she should be proud of it. Like she said, she can "fuck whoever she wants".
But your right she may just be easy. (Although its a fine line between being easy and being a slut. )
And either way, I'm not trying to offend. If she is a slut, then she should be proud of it. Like she said, she can "fuck whoever she wants".
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I love this bebate between slut and easy...as if there is an ultimate difference. I wouldnt think it qualifies as a dicotomy like has been defined in this thread.
or does it..
or does it..
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#148
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Originally Posted by jimcol711
there is no difference....easy....slutty...whore....loose....
its all different ways of saying the same thing....
its all different ways of saying the same thing....
I guess its debatable and some girls are "easier" or bigger sluts than others, so
Is the 38 year old a slut for doing the same thing? He should be no?
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Originally Posted by domn
I guess its debatable and some girls are "easier" or bigger sluts than others, so
Is the 38 year old a slut for doing the same thing? He should be no?
Is the 38 year old a slut for doing the same thing? He should be no?
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this thread needs to be locked
i quit. i can't argue with a bunch of 20-something guys who think with their infinite wisedom that they know so much more than me at their ripe old age. good lord, get a life. i posted a simple question, "what would you guys do?" and instead of it getting answered in a MATURE fashion, i get insulted for pages and pages. gee, thanks for being respectful of someone you don't know.
i quit. i can't argue with a bunch of 20-something guys who think with their infinite wisedom that they know so much more than me at their ripe old age. good lord, get a life. i posted a simple question, "what would you guys do?" and instead of it getting answered in a MATURE fashion, i get insulted for pages and pages. gee, thanks for being respectful of someone you don't know.
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Originally Posted by supermegaglossy
this thread needs to be locked
i quit. i can't argue with a bunch of 20-something guys who think with their infinite wisedom that they know so much more than me at their ripe old age. good lord, get a life. i posted a simple question, "what would you guys do?" and instead of it getting answered in a MATURE fashion, i get insulted for pages and pages. gee, thanks for being respectful of someone you don't know.
i quit. i can't argue with a bunch of 20-something guys who think with their infinite wisedom that they know so much more than me at their ripe old age. good lord, get a life. i posted a simple question, "what would you guys do?" and instead of it getting answered in a MATURE fashion, i get insulted for pages and pages. gee, thanks for being respectful of someone you don't know.
Just ask yourself: will he respect you as much as you will respect him??? and you will find your answer to what to do...
If not... like other members said... jack him for his cash... get him to get you an RL and then blow him off... (not in that way, you might need to to get the RL... nothings free in this world you know...) anyways... just do it...if it doesn't work out... F$#K It... (again, not in that way...)
One last thing... Also, ask yourself... can you be the kind of person that pride theirself for having so and so quantity of BF's, Flings, etc??? Because in the position i'm in... and i'm proud of it... i can say i've only been with 1 seriouse relationship... with only 1 woman... and thats my wife...
then again... have fun while it last... you only live once... make it a good one...
Hope this helps... Alrato...
Oh and you can all lock it now... i gave my already...
:padlock: as the thread starter said...
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This is the most amazing amount of insulting misadvice I've seen collected under one thread.
The thread would have been completely different if some 38 year old guy was talking about getting it on with a 20 year old, and I doubt few would have had the nerve to call his companion of the moment a slut.
If it had been a 20 year old guy talking about banging a 38 year old, the thread would have probably been a bit more rowdy, but I am sure he would have gotten kudos for his prowess.
So this young woman shags off a guy who appears not to be serial killer, and they have an extraordinary time together sexually, and apparently find the time to have a decent conversation or two in the process, but she wonders about the age difference.
Where did her question go, and where did the thread get lost? She could have gotten better commentary shouting the question out at the back of a frat bar during a beer break while everyone was frazzed during finals and forgot to take their ludes.
The answer is, she did get a question, for having a sexual adventure that she shared in the initiation of, she's a slut. I personally don't think so. I personally think that she, and another consenting adult had a significant sexual moment. Will it lead somewhere? maybe, maybe not.
Young men are encouraged to, in the arcane language of another generation, sow their wild oats. Who the fuck are they supposed to do that with? deflowered debauched women? They will probably be doing it with women who are also exploring the parameters of behavior. She's entitled, and she's entitled to a modicum of respect the following morning, and she's entitled to a rational discussion about the complexities of the moment.
My marriage was late in life, and by the time I got married, which is rather older than most of the folks on this thread, I had had times in my life where a one-night stand would have constituted an enduring relationship. Not a part of my life of which I am proud, but certainly not one in which I assumed the women with whom I played were to be disrespected because of the brevity of the contact. (and no, I never bought it). In the process, I learned a whole fuck of a lot, about myself, about sexual interchange, about sex vs intimacy.
Cut the young woman some slack for crissakes. She asked a question that, had she been a guy, would have garnered a radically different perception and response.
The thread would have been completely different if some 38 year old guy was talking about getting it on with a 20 year old, and I doubt few would have had the nerve to call his companion of the moment a slut.
If it had been a 20 year old guy talking about banging a 38 year old, the thread would have probably been a bit more rowdy, but I am sure he would have gotten kudos for his prowess.
So this young woman shags off a guy who appears not to be serial killer, and they have an extraordinary time together sexually, and apparently find the time to have a decent conversation or two in the process, but she wonders about the age difference.
Where did her question go, and where did the thread get lost? She could have gotten better commentary shouting the question out at the back of a frat bar during a beer break while everyone was frazzed during finals and forgot to take their ludes.
The answer is, she did get a question, for having a sexual adventure that she shared in the initiation of, she's a slut. I personally don't think so. I personally think that she, and another consenting adult had a significant sexual moment. Will it lead somewhere? maybe, maybe not.
Young men are encouraged to, in the arcane language of another generation, sow their wild oats. Who the fuck are they supposed to do that with? deflowered debauched women? They will probably be doing it with women who are also exploring the parameters of behavior. She's entitled, and she's entitled to a modicum of respect the following morning, and she's entitled to a rational discussion about the complexities of the moment.
My marriage was late in life, and by the time I got married, which is rather older than most of the folks on this thread, I had had times in my life where a one-night stand would have constituted an enduring relationship. Not a part of my life of which I am proud, but certainly not one in which I assumed the women with whom I played were to be disrespected because of the brevity of the contact. (and no, I never bought it). In the process, I learned a whole fuck of a lot, about myself, about sexual interchange, about sex vs intimacy.
Cut the young woman some slack for crissakes. She asked a question that, had she been a guy, would have garnered a radically different perception and response.
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ric,
great post. But the fact of the matter remains - double standards are blazingly prevalent. The dude is wrong for messing around with a young'un and I hope his buddies burn him a new one. Think about it - 20 years old, barely out of high school.
great post. But the fact of the matter remains - double standards are blazingly prevalent. The dude is wrong for messing around with a young'un and I hope his buddies burn him a new one. Think about it - 20 years old, barely out of high school.
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ric, I guess we all have our different moral standards, and different definitions of "slut". All I know is I would frown upon any female in my life (daughter, sister, etc) if she did anything like that.
Maybe I am holding females to a higher standard than men, but its only because I think they have more sense about these matters. I admire them for this, and I think its a shame to say "its OK" just because we say its OK for guys. Guys are primal brutes who have thousands of years of programming to be the sexual agressor and unfortunately it cripples our commen sense.
Anyways, i agree with you that its unfortunate the thread digressed so much. She had a serious and legitimate question. But when you lay something out in a public forum like this I guess you have to accept some critisicm.
supermega, if you really want the thread locked pm me (or any other mod).
Maybe I am holding females to a higher standard than men, but its only because I think they have more sense about these matters. I admire them for this, and I think its a shame to say "its OK" just because we say its OK for guys. Guys are primal brutes who have thousands of years of programming to be the sexual agressor and unfortunately it cripples our commen sense.
Anyways, i agree with you that its unfortunate the thread digressed so much. She had a serious and legitimate question. But when you lay something out in a public forum like this I guess you have to accept some critisicm.
supermega, if you really want the thread locked pm me (or any other mod).
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I was going to post a poll to analyze this double standard but I deleted it before I sent it. I figured it would be in bad taste to make an example of her situation.
However, the geek in me is interested to see if our opinions have any shread of objectivity in this matter; or do we truely hold different expectations for women.
However, the geek in me is interested to see if our opinions have any shread of objectivity in this matter; or do we truely hold different expectations for women.
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Originally Posted by fdl
ric, I guess we all have our different moral standards, and different definitions of "slut". All I know is I would frown upon any female in my life (daughter, sister, etc) if she did anything like that.
Maybe I am holding females to a higher standard than men, but its only because I think they have more sense about these matters. I admire them for this, and I think its a shame to say "its OK" just because we say its OK for guys. Guys are primal brutes who have thousands of years of programming to be the sexual agressor and unfortunately it cripples our commen sense.
Anyways, i agree with you that its unfortunate the thread digressed so much. She had a serious and legitimate question. But when you lay something out in a public forum like this I guess you have to accept some critisicm.
supermega, if you really want the thread locked pm me (or any other mod).
Maybe I am holding females to a higher standard than men, but its only because I think they have more sense about these matters. I admire them for this, and I think its a shame to say "its OK" just because we say its OK for guys. Guys are primal brutes who have thousands of years of programming to be the sexual agressor and unfortunately it cripples our commen sense.
Anyways, i agree with you that its unfortunate the thread digressed so much. She had a serious and legitimate question. But when you lay something out in a public forum like this I guess you have to accept some critisicm.
supermega, if you really want the thread locked pm me (or any other mod).
I agree that there is a double standard, but it's only because men are stupid. Yeah, I said it. And yes, I'm a man. Girls make me do stupid things, too.
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Originally Posted by supermegaglossy
this thread needs to be locked
i quit. i can't argue with a bunch of 20-something guys who think with their infinite wisedom that they know so much more than me at their ripe old age. good lord, get a life. i posted a simple question, "what would you guys do?" and instead of it getting answered in a MATURE fashion, i get insulted for pages and pages. gee, thanks for being respectful of someone you don't know.
i quit. i can't argue with a bunch of 20-something guys who think with their infinite wisedom that they know so much more than me at their ripe old age. good lord, get a life. i posted a simple question, "what would you guys do?" and instead of it getting answered in a MATURE fashion, i get insulted for pages and pages. gee, thanks for being respectful of someone you don't know.
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