First Date Help
Take her 'motorboating'. Seriously, think simple yet elegant. First dates are 'get-to-know-me' time. Simple as in park-beach time; elegant as in a basket of wine, cheeses and fruit to share there before dinner. Don't forget the single rose in the basket of wine and cheese.
In all seriousness, I was thinking about that boating idea and was wondering if I did that, would it be awkward by having the captain on board or do they usually stay to themselves and not interrupt? also for lunch would a picnic basket with stuff to make sandwiches be good or have some pre-made sandwiches?
So as of now, the ideas currently on the table are the boating idea (wait to get back to land after the middle of the sunset, then walk on the beach with ice cream afterwards OR picking her up, going to some sort of activity like Ice-Skating, etc and then go to dinner at some seafood place (she loves seafood) and then see how it goes from there...
So as of now, the ideas currently on the table are the boating idea (wait to get back to land after the middle of the sunset, then walk on the beach with ice cream afterwards OR picking her up, going to some sort of activity like Ice-Skating, etc and then go to dinner at some seafood place (she loves seafood) and then see how it goes from there...
Yeah, a picnic basket for lunch sounds great. Pre-made sandwiches might get soggy, unless you bring something like lobster rolls. I think it would be better if you bring some grapes to munch on, wine, cheese and cold cuts for your sandwiches.
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If it hasn't already been stated, DO NOT TAKE HER DANCING. You need to have some originality. I think the boat cruise, sailing, etc. idea is a great one. Hopefully the weather is not terribly hot. That can ruin an evening pretty quickly.
It was in the other thread in regions, but I'll quote it here:
I second the "do NOT take her dancing" advice. I can't believe it hasn't been mentioned before either. That's what she does for a living. You don't want her to relate going on a date with you and going to work. Don't even give her the chance. Now if she mentions it then maybe, but make sure it's not a "if all else fails" type of suggestion. Plus, you should be the one calling the shots, coming up with the ideas, offering suggestions, etc. Not her.
Just be yourself. Go out and have a good time. Don't worry about what you're going to say or anything like that. You'll have more fun if you don't have a plan to try and carry out.
Just be yourself. Go out and have a good time. Don't worry about what you're going to say or anything like that. You'll have more fun if you don't have a plan to try and carry out.
I think the sailing idea might be not work out, I called a few charter places and most of them are for fishing and will leave only around noon when it's very hot out here! I did get a hold of one company that does do it later on in the day, but they require a date be set 2 weeks in advance...
So now I'm back to about square 3...
By the way, should I buy her
or is that a bit too overdone?
EDIT: wow, I just reread this whole thread and boy am I clueless.
So now I'm back to about square 3...
By the way, should I buy her
or is that a bit too overdone?EDIT: wow, I just reread this whole thread and boy am I clueless.
Yes, on the flowers but do not overdo it. Remember simple but elegant; less is more sometimes. Since see likes dance, do something that involves the arts - Museum maybe? A good way to interact and develop discussions. Let her expose you to her intellegence - make her feel special.
What are your goals? to ultimately date her or to do the dirty with?
I would suggest not going to dinner, as dinner is implying that you are trying to win her over by buying her. Dinner is for people who already know each other. Besides how are you guys gonna talk if ya'll are stuffing faces?
I suggest something fun and interactive. Everyone has given great ideas so far. Remember, girls just wanna have fun.
Be simple and your self!
I would suggest not going to dinner, as dinner is implying that you are trying to win her over by buying her. Dinner is for people who already know each other. Besides how are you guys gonna talk if ya'll are stuffing faces?
I suggest something fun and interactive. Everyone has given great ideas so far. Remember, girls just wanna have fun.
Be simple and your self!
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What are your goals? to ultimately date her or to do the dirty with?
I would suggest not going to dinner, as dinner is implying that you are trying to win her over by buying her. Dinner is for people who already know each other. Besides how are you guys gonna talk if ya'll are stuffing faces?
I suggest something fun and interactive. Everyone has given great ideas so far. Remember, girls just wanna have fun.
Be simple and your self!
I would suggest not going to dinner, as dinner is implying that you are trying to win her over by buying her. Dinner is for people who already know each other. Besides how are you guys gonna talk if ya'll are stuffing faces?
I suggest something fun and interactive. Everyone has given great ideas so far. Remember, girls just wanna have fun.
Be simple and your self!
The goal is to ultimately date her if she is the right person, but I need to get to know her first!
Bro, let me give you some serious advice here. First of all, your mental state is a bit wrong. You are waaaay too concerned about what she will like, and what to do to get her to like you. It won't happen that way. This isn't how most women work. Most women look for a guy that is MORE socially valuable than themselves. If she even remotely smells your kissing her ass, she will go out with you, have dinner with you, and most likely not be all that interested in you. She will then say something like "we can just be frriends". You are already working off a negative standpoint, you need to be aware that if you have known her for a year and she has sensed your interest, she sees it as a negative point that you did not make a move earlier. Waiting too long does not come from a place of supreme confidence. Then when you asked her out, you would have been better off mentioning that you are doing something ANYWAY, and seen if she wants to tag along.
After you have spent time with her, sort of evaluated her OUTSIDE that studio environment, and she has PROVEN to you that she is worthy of YOUR seeing her again, you can take her out a second time to more of an event (if you really need to).
You are doing the nice guy thing. If you want to attract a woman, it is attraction that occurs on a much deeper raw phsyical/sexual level, not on a verbal level. In other words, if she senses your extreme level of confidence, your lack of draw to her based on her looks, your desirability by other women, and you connect with her on that DEEPER level, she will be attracted to you. If you try to go on a date and TALK your way into her liking you, you are swimming upstream.
It really doesn't matter where you go. It matters who and how you are in that space. Are you comfortable? Are you confident? Are you funny? making her laugh? comfortable touching her? teasing her? are you the one that she has to live up to or the other way around? These are all the important clues you need to be sending out. Whether you are having a drink at a bar or sitting in a park just doesn't matter. You say to her "I want to see what there is TO YOU", and don't be afraid of saying "Yeah I'm not sure about that" if you don't like something she says.
Am I making any sense?
NO FLOWERS!!!! No cards, no gifts, you shouldn't even pay for everything. You want to be really generous, pickup the tab and let her pay for the tip. Make her contribute SOMETHING. "I'll get this, you get the drinks after".
You also need to go at a certain pace or she will lose her attraction for you. If you go too slow, she will sense a lack of confidence. I personally do not even go out on any sort of traditional dates. I think it is a lot more important you get this stuff squared away than it is to decide WHERE you will go.
After you have spent time with her, sort of evaluated her OUTSIDE that studio environment, and she has PROVEN to you that she is worthy of YOUR seeing her again, you can take her out a second time to more of an event (if you really need to).
You are doing the nice guy thing. If you want to attract a woman, it is attraction that occurs on a much deeper raw phsyical/sexual level, not on a verbal level. In other words, if she senses your extreme level of confidence, your lack of draw to her based on her looks, your desirability by other women, and you connect with her on that DEEPER level, she will be attracted to you. If you try to go on a date and TALK your way into her liking you, you are swimming upstream.
It really doesn't matter where you go. It matters who and how you are in that space. Are you comfortable? Are you confident? Are you funny? making her laugh? comfortable touching her? teasing her? are you the one that she has to live up to or the other way around? These are all the important clues you need to be sending out. Whether you are having a drink at a bar or sitting in a park just doesn't matter. You say to her "I want to see what there is TO YOU", and don't be afraid of saying "Yeah I'm not sure about that" if you don't like something she says.
Am I making any sense?
NO FLOWERS!!!! No cards, no gifts, you shouldn't even pay for everything. You want to be really generous, pickup the tab and let her pay for the tip. Make her contribute SOMETHING. "I'll get this, you get the drinks after".
You also need to go at a certain pace or she will lose her attraction for you. If you go too slow, she will sense a lack of confidence. I personally do not even go out on any sort of traditional dates. I think it is a lot more important you get this stuff squared away than it is to decide WHERE you will go.
Her saying "lets see what you come up with".... did you really hear that? she is saying "you are the man, you take charge, don't ask me".
June second is a weeknight.... that's good. At least you didn't give her your saturday night. Or perhaps she chose that night... either way, casual. I would just take her out for some drinks and see what she has to say after a few glasses of wine.
June second is a weeknight.... that's good. At least you didn't give her your saturday night. Or perhaps she chose that night... either way, casual. I would just take her out for some drinks and see what she has to say after a few glasses of wine.
you mean you actually dated? The way youre kept I assumed your courtship was similar to how someone would go to a pet store, ask to see a dog for a few then decide she will pay for it and take him home
As for the date, I dont know if they have them around you, but do they do dinner cruises there? The one Ive been on, you can reserve an individual table, so you can talk before, then theres dinner, followed by a short show. After that you can continue to talk at the table, or go up on top deck for the view, and more conversation.
As for the date, I dont know if they have them around you, but do they do dinner cruises there? The one Ive been on, you can reserve an individual table, so you can talk before, then theres dinner, followed by a short show. After that you can continue to talk at the table, or go up on top deck for the view, and more conversation.
I would suggest not over thinking this situation, it will only create pressure for you. Just play good listener and work with what she gave you and add some originality if you can.
Don't set the bar too high on a first date, keep it casual save the fancy dining for later if things blossom.
Activity dates are fun, keeps the focus off any potential awkwardness. If you guys have bikes I would suggest biking around The Loop in Ormond or if you are up for a drive go to Lake Winnimisett Park (Deland) and cycle through to Blue Springs and enjoy a nice picnic there. There is too much to do around here. If you need any other suggestions feel free to send me a PM.
Good luck!
Don't set the bar too high on a first date, keep it casual save the fancy dining for later if things blossom.
Activity dates are fun, keeps the focus off any potential awkwardness. If you guys have bikes I would suggest biking around The Loop in Ormond or if you are up for a drive go to Lake Winnimisett Park (Deland) and cycle through to Blue Springs and enjoy a nice picnic there. There is too much to do around here. If you need any other suggestions feel free to send me a PM.
Good luck!
So today I went hung out with a few friends, both from acurazine at a meet in Orlando and as well some of my personal friends. They somehow convinced me to go ice skating and all I can say is that I'll def. not be going ice skating with her. I couldn't balance myself to save my life
. I think I'll just stick with telling her to dress casually and comfortably (no high heels, not fancily, etc) and take her mini-putt put golfing, then dinner, then the beach + ice-cream. I think I just need to be confident and firm now with my decisions otherwise I'll always end up going back to square 3.
. I think I'll just stick with telling her to dress casually and comfortably (no high heels, not fancily, etc) and take her mini-putt put golfing, then dinner, then the beach + ice-cream. I think I just need to be confident and firm now with my decisions otherwise I'll always end up going back to square 3.
So today I went hung out with a few friends, both from acurazine at a meet in Orlando and as well some of my personal friends. They somehow convinced me to go ice skating and all I can say is that I'll def. not be going ice skating with her. I couldn't balance myself to save my life
. I think I'll just stick with telling her to dress casually and comfortably (no high heels, not fancily, etc) and take her mini-putt put golfing, then dinner, then the beach + ice-cream. I think I just need to be confident and firm now with my decisions otherwise I'll always end up going back to square 3.
. I think I'll just stick with telling her to dress casually and comfortably (no high heels, not fancily, etc) and take her mini-putt put golfing, then dinner, then the beach + ice-cream. I think I just need to be confident and firm now with my decisions otherwise I'll always end up going back to square 3.Even if you go put put golfing, be sure to challenge her. Make bets with her. Force her to prove herself. If you really are losing, cheat. Either in a real obvious way, or quietly then just admit it to her later once you have won. Create fun.
Go early. Keep dinner on the casual side. Don't be too formal, too nice, don't question her to death interview style. Fun topics are a lot better than informational topics about what she did bounced back by what you did. Control the conversation. Don't take one topic, run it to its end, then start on the next. You can run multiple threads at once. If anything gets boring, cut it off. She may make things boring. Even if she asks a boring question and you answer, she will get bored, and blame you. So just avoid that. Girls love relationship type stuff... guys versus girls stuff. Dating topics... if you want to delve into her and find out about her, find out about her EMOTIONAL stuff, don't ask facts. Instead of "where did you grow up", ask "if you had to pick out just one memory... that you would say is the best memory of your life, what would it be?". Try to find out what drives her internaly. "If I was a genie and gave you the wish of living anywhere, and doing anything, what would you ask for?" ... "why?"... "what kinds of things turn you on?"... "what types of things do you find sexy?"...
If she continues to talk about herself, you need to control her. If she never asks "what would you do?"... "what about you?"... she is showing disinterest. If she is doing that, then when she answers "I would live in Paris" you say "OMG no. There's no way we could ever be a couple". Do not continue to give her approval. In fact you should not do that period.
You can ask things like "what's the craziest thing you've ever done?"... If its lame, make fun of her for it. "If I did XYZ crazy activity, and asked you to be an complice in this way, would you do it?". Make her tell you she will be your partner in crime with these sort of stories. Create a bond. Feel for what she will say. Is she giving you approval, or is she being boring? If she is being boring, show YOUR disaproval of HER behavior. Good looking women will try to get away with all kinds of shit all the time. Don't let her. Don't be another guy that says "this is OK". You have to control this dynamic and like I said before, make sure she knows she has to step it up a little.
If you are going into this date thinking that she will be attracted to you because you are somehow a really nice guy, she most likely will not. Being "nice" is a quality that every guy on the planet can offer a woman. You aren't offering anything different than the next guy that wants to get into her pants. You are just another boring guy.
Most of all, just try not to go in with the mentality that you really need her, want her to like you, that this date is really important to you. Be a confident in-control man that has no qualms just driving her home RIGHT NOW if she is going to be boring. Your view of how she is as a woman, is JUST AS, if not more important than her view of how you are as a man. REMEMBER that.
Last edited by turbo2go; Jun 1, 2010 at 11:01 AM.
Bro, let me give you some serious advice here. First of all, your mental state is a bit wrong. You are waaaay too concerned about what she will like, and what to do to get her to like you. It won't happen that way. This isn't how most women work. Most women look for a guy that is MORE socially valuable than themselves. If she even remotely smells your kissing her ass, she will go out with you, have dinner with you, and most likely not be all that interested in you. She will then say something like "we can just be frriends". You are already working off a negative standpoint, you need to be aware that if you have known her for a year and she has sensed your interest, she sees it as a negative point that you did not make a move earlier. Waiting too long does not come from a place of supreme confidence. Then when you asked her out, you would have been better off mentioning that you are doing something ANYWAY, and seen if she wants to tag along.
After you have spent time with her, sort of evaluated her OUTSIDE that studio environment, and she has PROVEN to you that she is worthy of YOUR seeing her again, you can take her out a second time to more of an event (if you really need to).
You are doing the nice guy thing. If you want to attract a woman, it is attraction that occurs on a much deeper raw phsyical/sexual level, not on a verbal level. In other words, if she senses your extreme level of confidence, your lack of draw to her based on her looks, your desirability by other women, and you connect with her on that DEEPER level, she will be attracted to you. If you try to go on a date and TALK your way into her liking you, you are swimming upstream.
It really doesn't matter where you go. It matters who and how you are in that space. Are you comfortable? Are you confident? Are you funny? making her laugh? comfortable touching her? teasing her? are you the one that she has to live up to or the other way around? These are all the important clues you need to be sending out. Whether you are having a drink at a bar or sitting in a park just doesn't matter. You say to her "I want to see what there is TO YOU", and don't be afraid of saying "Yeah I'm not sure about that" if you don't like something she says.
Am I making any sense?
NO FLOWERS!!!! No cards, no gifts, you shouldn't even pay for everything. You want to be really generous, pickup the tab and let her pay for the tip. Make her contribute SOMETHING. "I'll get this, you get the drinks after".
You also need to go at a certain pace or she will lose her attraction for you. If you go too slow, she will sense a lack of confidence. I personally do not even go out on any sort of traditional dates. I think it is a lot more important you get this stuff squared away than it is to decide WHERE you will go.
After you have spent time with her, sort of evaluated her OUTSIDE that studio environment, and she has PROVEN to you that she is worthy of YOUR seeing her again, you can take her out a second time to more of an event (if you really need to).
You are doing the nice guy thing. If you want to attract a woman, it is attraction that occurs on a much deeper raw phsyical/sexual level, not on a verbal level. In other words, if she senses your extreme level of confidence, your lack of draw to her based on her looks, your desirability by other women, and you connect with her on that DEEPER level, she will be attracted to you. If you try to go on a date and TALK your way into her liking you, you are swimming upstream.
It really doesn't matter where you go. It matters who and how you are in that space. Are you comfortable? Are you confident? Are you funny? making her laugh? comfortable touching her? teasing her? are you the one that she has to live up to or the other way around? These are all the important clues you need to be sending out. Whether you are having a drink at a bar or sitting in a park just doesn't matter. You say to her "I want to see what there is TO YOU", and don't be afraid of saying "Yeah I'm not sure about that" if you don't like something she says.
Am I making any sense?
NO FLOWERS!!!! No cards, no gifts, you shouldn't even pay for everything. You want to be really generous, pickup the tab and let her pay for the tip. Make her contribute SOMETHING. "I'll get this, you get the drinks after".
You also need to go at a certain pace or she will lose her attraction for you. If you go too slow, she will sense a lack of confidence. I personally do not even go out on any sort of traditional dates. I think it is a lot more important you get this stuff squared away than it is to decide WHERE you will go.
I couldn't convey all of this in my post, but this is what i was getting at.
Body language, confidence, and attraction gets the girls.
Of course! But I'll try to kinda change things up slightly and make it more "random" when I'm talking to her.
I'll take that as a complement
. You guys should have realized by now that this isn't something I'm fluent with.
I'll take that as a complement
. You guys should have realized by now that this isn't something I'm fluent with.
The result of what happens is not nearly as important as that you become "fluent with this" as you say. So don't feel ANY pressure at all. Just have fun and don't have ANY expectations. Your next one will go even better.
Nothing of the sort...
To put it in kind words, it went alright. 5:30 rolls around and she calls me to say she has to go to a friends party at 8 (he's moving away and is a good family friend and was just informed of it). She tells me that she can be ready by 6 so I go and picked her up. I get there and she's really apologetic about it and says that we can reschedule for something longer next week.
We went and got some yougurt at "Hi Five" yougurt place where you can mix your own stuff and talked for a bit, kinda teased her at some points, etc. I found out ironically enough that she hates the beach so it was sort of good that she had to cut it short, otherwise the beach idea would have been a giant failure. I dropped her off at around 7 back to her place and that was it.
Either way I had a good enough time and it seemed like she did to. Also guys if you haven't figured it out yet, I'm not the type that wants to
on a first date or for that matter on the second or third. I'll happen when the time is right.
To put it in kind words, it went alright. 5:30 rolls around and she calls me to say she has to go to a friends party at 8 (he's moving away and is a good family friend and was just informed of it). She tells me that she can be ready by 6 so I go and picked her up. I get there and she's really apologetic about it and says that we can reschedule for something longer next week.
We went and got some yougurt at "Hi Five" yougurt place where you can mix your own stuff and talked for a bit, kinda teased her at some points, etc. I found out ironically enough that she hates the beach so it was sort of good that she had to cut it short, otherwise the beach idea would have been a giant failure. I dropped her off at around 7 back to her place and that was it.
Either way I had a good enough time and it seemed like she did to. Also guys if you haven't figured it out yet, I'm not the type that wants to
on a first date or for that matter on the second or third. I'll happen when the time is right. 










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