wow... is there... demand for this thing?????? could it be??????

 

I do for Reward Points. Adds up.

Bought my new Sammy TV there recently.

 

just saw that video. nice.

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Lol did you watch after the price announced... the part about trust of the consumers.... uh yeah that's a lot of hogwash in there

BUT I am happy Sony has finally started to MAKE CONSUMERS HAPPY.

 

to me he was taking a jab at M$ there

 

Sony hasn't had the best track record when it comes to keeping consumers happy - that's what I mean when I say it is hogwash

 

got ya

 

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see what it's at now:

https://www.facebook.com/AmazonVideo...1317646&rest=1

 

Ouch

 

 

I think just about anyone who's argued for PS vs Xbox in the past is experiencing a curious level of satisfaction right now....

 

Wow...

 

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PS4 to provide value over next decade and beyond? So no PS5 for at least 10 years?

 

Who won the last E3 when they launched ps3 and 360? Didn't ps3 win because of BD support and changeable hard drives? But 360 evolved into a better overall experience throughout the 7 years. Could happen again.

 

Yeah, these are just initial impressions. There is no way to predict what will happen down the road.

 

No, their platforms are designed to last 10 years but it doesn't mean new hardware will come out before that. Look at the ps1 and 2, they were around for a long time even when the next gen was already out.

 

I don't see where that happened .

 

Why is "Orbis" still in the title?

 

^ Title edited.

 

I miss it already

 

glad it wasn't actually called "Orbis"....

 

Same ^

Same with Xbox's "Project Natal"

 

Should be renamed "Project Fatal"

 

 

For everyone it may vary and these are problems I've personally had and read for others. PSN hack fiasco, YLOD with no extended warranty (360 and RROD gave a long warranty), more reliable network via 360 for online gaming (you pay for what you get) as I can't play Rock Band Blitz half the time as it's online only, DS3 batteries dying and no warranty, 360 has more TV options like ESPN, Xfinity On Demand, etc, 360 XNA support which was HUGE for Rock Band players, PSN only updates Tuesdays while Live was literally live on soms releases, 360 controller better for shooters, glitches on games on ps3 instead of 360 like Rocksmith and Skyrim, integration with your PC, cross-game chat, PS3 firmware installs, long ass install for each of your 500 pieces of DLC after you get a new PS3, a 3rd party repair shop had to fix the YLOD since Sony's own method might last between a day and a year but only gave 90 day warranty while the repair shop warranties it for a year, Kinect over Eye Toy, no disc install to the HDD. Domestically speaking 360 outsold PS3 so more 360 friends. The 360 started off slow with no HDMI, no wireless, small HDD, and RROD. Over the years they fixed all that but Sony seemed complacement. I love my PS3 but if I didn't have so much invested into it with games and DLC I'd have probably gone 360 the 2nd time around.

 

warranty was next to useless as you most likely ended up buying a new console when the repaired one failed outside of that time frame. (ask me how I know)

Now with the new consoles out the Xboxfail and PSWin I would choose PS4 easily

1. Centered around gaming
2. More power
3. Better used games policy

 

Yeah, 99% of that doesn't apply to me. The hack fiasco was beyond annoying, but I could still play single player, watch Netflix, watch movies, etc. My first PS3 did get YLOD after a few years, but I just bought a new one . It had been three years; I don't expect that to be covered. I even got trade credit at GS for the old one (guess that's where they get some of their used PS's ). From a gaming standpoint, there isn't a single XBox exclusive I care about (I love most of PS's), and I greatly prefer the PS controller (hate FPS).

 

Doom, well said. I also love the layout, mostly because the analog sticks. I hate them being close together on the PS and the fact that actual triggers are non-existent.

 

Yeah I too prefer the PS3 exclusives. I have like 3 God of Wars left to catch up and borrowed GT5. Hey borrowed!!! Sorry M$!!!!

 

I shall affectionately call my PS4 as an Orbis.

 

I hope your robots come to life and take it into "Orbit".

 

"Let's turn on my Orbis!"

 

"Wanna play with my...Orbis...?"

 

"Gosh...my Orbis is getting a bit warm!"

 

for posting consecutively!

 

 

Agreed with Doom. 360 > PS3

But given the information for the next gen consoles, I will not get an Xbox unless they change the used game and always online policies. So far PS4 has my vote.

 

Got an e-mail from Best Buy today that the release date has been moved up to 11/30.