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mantis23

Hey, we aren't bad, just rowdy at times.

srika

house music all night long

(SAY WHAT?)

MSZ

Yea, I knew that ever since all AZ forums combined in last year....

Black CL-S 4-Life

Feel free to delete my post. I haven't whored in awhile.

mantis23

but now I have to delete that one too

Mizouse

Doom878

Ok this great thread is getting whored. Eveyrone shaddup.

Back to business.....

How have you stabilized your Minolta or black car for driver use.

MSZ

No this thread is not great. It has 2800+ posts for a reason.(read it: PWing is cool)

Anyway...I haven't touched any setting for my Group C/LMP cars except the HP upgrades and tires. The Minolta won lots of races for me. You got some stability problems?

Doom878

With a 1/3 tire setup yes. Read my last 4 posts.

MSZ

2 words:

TRACTION CONTROL.

srika

power is nothing without control

Doom878

I'm talking about bouncing though. I also have side to side issues which is probably TCS also.

MSZ

Strange, I don't have any bouncing problems with my LMPs.

srika

you mean bouncing @ the Lemans straights, for instance? That is almost a given... it has to do with the track, not the car.

Doom878

So no way to counter that? I know at high speeds my left/right negotiation is extremely difficult. Anyway to fix that?

MSZ

Driving Force Pro.

srika

MSZ

Doom878

So how's the Jag XJR9? Looks like it won't turn but I havent tried.

srika

dude........ the XJR9 with full mods is almost as fast as an F1 car - not quite, but almost. Quite stable compared to, say, the Minolta (at least with default settings). Check the video I posted a while back......... did you see it already?

Mizouse

some reason the NSX-R i made runs maybe 1 second slower than my F1 car.. and yet it handles like a dream..

MSZ

In real I do think NSX-R is the 2nd cloest thing to a F1 car only behind Enzo Ferrari.

Mizouse

to the NSX-R i want one

Doom878

Oooh. Very interesting. Can't wait to get home to try.

srika

When I said its close to the F1 car, I meant in terms of performance. Don't know what you guys are talking about... technology?

btw I think the 2nd closest car in real life, in terms of F1 technology, is the F50 - seeing how it has an actual F1 motor block in it - hell it may even be first, I don't think the Enzo has an actual F1 motor block.

Kighter

You're right but the production power plant in today's Enzo is more advanced then the Ferrari motor blocks in the F50. And it has active aero(!!!). It looks kinda weird but it's a technological marvel.

srika

oh I know it's much more advanced than the F50, the F50 came out in '95 and has uses the block from Ferrari's 1990 F1 car. Quite old, by modern standards. But, quite nice.

First we are talking about performance, then technology, now engineering advancements... all I was saying with my initial statement was this:

Take the XJR-9 (with full mods) to the Ring, and you can run times close to that of the F1 car. That is all I was saying.

MSZ

Oh yea I forgot F50.

But since both Enzo and F50 are out of production already. NSX-R should be the closest thing to a F1 car in real life, right?

srika

If you are only talking about current production cars, yes. But, tell me why "whether a car is currently being produced or not" needs to be a part of this picture?

The NSX-R is no doubt a formidable contestant, but no, I have never equated the NSX as being similar to an F1 car. The only cars that have come close to that (arguably impossible) reality are the F50, the F355 (because of the sound), and the Enzo, imo.

The Enzo is surely the creme de la creme at the moment, but I have to give due respect to the F50. And you may call me crazy, but if I were offered an F50 or an Enzo, and I could only take one, I would seriously have to think about it. The F50 has a sound the Enzo can never have... it's imo the best-sounding car in the world, ever.

Doom878

Bleh on the Jag. When I try it in Hong Kong in the Pro without entering the tourney it gets owned. All I added was a Stage 4 turbo. My best lap time was 1:12 with hards all around. That thing eats tires worse than the Minolta. With all softs it was like a 1:30. In the 787B I was pulling 1:05 hard/1:15 3/1 tires. If the F1 doesn't eat tires I'll just have to win that one first or something.

srika

uhh... user issues. Any of the high-hp cars sux @ Hong Kong, because that track is bunk ass and more suited to lower-hp (read: slow) cars.... take the Jag to the 'Ring or any other real track that has some usable space, and then get back to me...

MSZ

Yes you are crazy.

Enzo > F50.

Actually I like F40 a lot more than F50 as well...

srika

well duh.

sound of the F50 > sound of the Enzo

Doom878

Unfortunately I have no choice because it's part of the Pro Event Championship. Trust me I'd rather do the Ring than Hong Kong. I'm sure I can win most of the others but I eventually have to beat the track. And you can prove if user issues. Go try it out and tell me your times. Maybe I'm not hitting the track right.

srika

oh ok..... my bad. Hong Kong is a miserable experience with most of the high-hp cars - I never race it unless required.

ps. I was playing around when I said "user issues"... Hong Kong sucks.

Zapata

anybody get the HD thing to work? i won't have time for a few weeks but will be the first thing i do when finals are done.

Doom878

Nah dude. I didn't take it as an insult. Maybe I am teh suck at HK.

Oh and you pussies never said anything about the contest I proposed.

srika

oh ok.... what contest? I think I forgot.

Mizouse

yea the hong kong course sux the cawk