Won ebay auction, Honda of San Marcos refusing to honor ** PICKED UP PG. 16 **
#161
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Personally I say you buy Enzo's car. From the comment section of the Motor Authority Report story:
Seems like a better deal to me.
I'd buy that and still drag the dealer through the mud (legally) for their actions...
Originally Posted by Enzo Rollis
why would u put it up on ebay with no reserve if your not going to honor the winning bid. i could sell him my GTR with 15,600 miles gun metallic for $55,000 going to get the 2012 well all i can say keep us inform.
I'd buy that and still drag the dealer through the mud (legally) for their actions...
Last edited by juniorbean; 08-09-2011 at 09:50 AM.
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umakemekissu (08-09-2011)
#162
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OP has a case. I still think you should try Small Claims as they breached a Contract by not selling to you. It does not cost much and you represent yourself.
But good luck OP. They were wrong to List and not sell on the price that it reached. That is not the way an auction works.
But good luck OP. They were wrong to List and not sell on the price that it reached. That is not the way an auction works.
#164
Small claims court cannot exceed $10K loss, and since nothing was spent, unfortunately this will be dismissed in a jiffy.
#166
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I don't understand how some ppl could be such ignorants and suggest OP to cut lose of the dealership. So you got fucked up in the ass and let they laugh at you and let them get away with it? and let them fuck up the next person after you and others to come?
I can't guarantee the OP will win but at least he's not being a pussy. At least he already win the experience of how to deal with this kind of situations; or damage the dealership's reputation so ppl would not bid on their eBay's post the next time. He's not only helping himself but others as well. If the dealership could get away this time with no damaged, there'll be a great chance they'd do it again.
It sucks you can't sue for emotional distress because it's clearly you have to deal with a lot of BS, being laughed at, etc.
OP got time and committed to solve his problem, the least we can do is support, not fking discouragement. $5k seems little to someone but in some places ppl die of hunger because they don't have $1/day to eat. I'd rather donate that $5k to save dying childrens than feeding these type of shady dealships.![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
Best of luck OP, keep us updated.
I don't understand how some ppl could be such ignorants and suggest OP to cut lose of the dealership. So you got fucked up in the ass and let they laugh at you and let them get away with it? and let them fuck up the next person after you and others to come?
I can't guarantee the OP will win but at least he's not being a pussy. At least he already win the experience of how to deal with this kind of situations; or damage the dealership's reputation so ppl would not bid on their eBay's post the next time. He's not only helping himself but others as well. If the dealership could get away this time with no damaged, there'll be a great chance they'd do it again.
It sucks you can't sue for emotional distress because it's clearly you have to deal with a lot of BS, being laughed at, etc.
OP got time and committed to solve his problem, the least we can do is support, not fking discouragement. $5k seems little to someone but in some places ppl die of hunger because they don't have $1/day to eat. I'd rather donate that $5k to save dying childrens than feeding these type of shady dealships.
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Best of luck OP, keep us updated.
#169
A 21 yr old plaintiff is suing for a breach of contract on eBay over a sport car where absolutely no monetary exchange was performed, and I don't think the judge will take his sweet time to review eBay's policy... by the way eBay policy states that all transactions are done in good faith with mutually beneficial relationship between the seller and the buyer.... Bunch of hot smoke.
The lawsuit paperwork may scare the dealer into doing the right thing.... but as of now, he is being a douche, and since the op failed to leave a deposit (even though he tried), that immediately voids the 'contract'. It's a case of he says, she says... 'I've wanted to give a deposit, but I wasn't provided an address.'...etc..etc.. a merry go round.
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I don't understand how some ppl could be such ignorants and suggest OP to cut lose of the dealership. So you got fucked up in the ass and let they laugh at you and let them get away with it? and let them fuck up the next person after you and others to come?.
I don't understand how some ppl could be such ignorants and suggest OP to cut lose of the dealership. So you got fucked up in the ass and let they laugh at you and let them get away with it? and let them fuck up the next person after you and others to come?.
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I think you've watched too much Judge Judy... I don't see anyone discouraging OP from pursuing this rightful matter; it just won't avail to much. The seller made a mistake and wants to cowardly back out of it. You can tarnish his reputation; I believe this is as far as it would go.
#171
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Look up the definition of ignorants. ![Too Cool](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/toocool.gif)
I think you've watched too much Judge Judy... I don't see anyone discouraging OP from pursuing this rightful matter; it just won't avail to much. The seller made a mistake and wants to cowardly back out of it. You can tarnish his reputation; I believe this is as far as it would go.
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I think you've watched too much Judge Judy... I don't see anyone discouraging OP from pursuing this rightful matter; it just won't avail to much. The seller made a mistake and wants to cowardly back out of it. You can tarnish his reputation; I believe this is as far as it would go.
The dealers reputation is very important to them. They can hire the most famous person in all of Texas to advertise for them but that still won't carry as much weight as what actual customers tell say.
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umakemekissu (08-09-2011)
#173
You've missed a lot of posts if you haven't seen anyone telling him to give it up.
The dealers reputation is very important to them. They can hire the most famous person in all of Texas to advertise for them but that still won't carry as much weight as what actual customers tell say.
The dealers reputation is very important to them. They can hire the most famous person in all of Texas to advertise for them but that still won't carry as much weight as what actual customers tell say.
See, if this putz of a dealer had more than one sale on eBay, maybe he would be afraid of negative feedback or account closing.. the truth is there are very few people who rely on buying cars over the internet. $$$ always wins in negotiations regardless of how scumbaggy the dealer is... I've dealt with dealers before that I wanted to invite to the back alleys for a little face mashing, but they provided better deals.
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I don't understand how some ppl could be such ignorants and suggest OP to cut lose of the dealership. So you got fucked up in the ass and let they laugh at you and let them get away with it? and let them fuck up the next person after you and others to come?
I can't guarantee the OP will win but at least he's not being a pussy. At least he already win the experience of how to deal with this kind of situations; or damage the dealership's reputation so ppl would not bid on their eBay's post the next time. He's not only helping himself but others as well. If the dealership could get away this time with no damaged, there'll be a great chance they'd do it again.
It sucks you can't sue for emotional distress because it's clearly you have to deal with a lot of BS, being laughed at, etc.
OP got time and committed to solve his problem, the least we can do is support, not fking discouragement. $5k seems little to someone but in some places ppl die of hunger because they don't have $1/day to eat. I'd rather donate that $5k to save dying childrens than feeding these type of shady dealships.![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
Best of luck OP, keep us updated.
I don't understand how some ppl could be such ignorants and suggest OP to cut lose of the dealership. So you got fucked up in the ass and let they laugh at you and let them get away with it? and let them fuck up the next person after you and others to come?
I can't guarantee the OP will win but at least he's not being a pussy. At least he already win the experience of how to deal with this kind of situations; or damage the dealership's reputation so ppl would not bid on their eBay's post the next time. He's not only helping himself but others as well. If the dealership could get away this time with no damaged, there'll be a great chance they'd do it again.
It sucks you can't sue for emotional distress because it's clearly you have to deal with a lot of BS, being laughed at, etc.
OP got time and committed to solve his problem, the least we can do is support, not fking discouragement. $5k seems little to someone but in some places ppl die of hunger because they don't have $1/day to eat. I'd rather donate that $5k to save dying childrens than feeding these type of shady dealships.
![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
Best of luck OP, keep us updated.
#175
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#179
True, however, you have to realize that this thread was originally posted in Ramblings before it was moved to Car Talk... and Ramblings is a completely different beast. Once the move to Car Talk was made the tone of the topic changed and became more supportive and informational...
#184
Plus, don't be soft when talking to them, they are salemen, they know how to BS. Toughen it up and don't take anything less or any other BS offers. If they sound like they're scared, I would bluff them for more discount to pay for the distress you had to suffer. you have nothing to lose!
#186
I got news from BBB
Here is what they said
"On August 09, 2011, the business provided the following information:
Mr. Vang has engaged in slander against Honda of San Marcos and attempted to purposley and unlawfully disrupt the dealership's ability to operate. As a result of these documented offenses and on advice from counsel Honda San Marcos will not discuss this matter with the BBB."
Here is what they said
"On August 09, 2011, the business provided the following information:
Mr. Vang has engaged in slander against Honda of San Marcos and attempted to purposley and unlawfully disrupt the dealership's ability to operate. As a result of these documented offenses and on advice from counsel Honda San Marcos will not discuss this matter with the BBB."
#187
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I wonder what a 36k mile GTR is like ... And whether or not this car has supercar-esque maintenance requirements.
Because even if it's used, $55k for that kind of performance is a steal.
Because even if it's used, $55k for that kind of performance is a steal.
#188
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They probably don't care about their feedback. As of today when I checked the expired listing of that auction, they had 1 postive feedback in their name...they've only made one transaction. So if this one gets shut down..they don't lose much. They can easily start another one without any serious time/energy lost in terms of eBay feedback. Good luck to OP though...get that car and you better spam the forums with pics/videos of it.
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#189
Fahrvergnügen'd
I got news from BBB
Here is what they said
"On August 09, 2011, the business provided the following information:
Mr. Vang has engaged in slander against Honda of San Marcos and attempted to purposley and unlawfully disrupt the dealership's ability to operate. As a result of these documented offenses and on advice from counsel Honda San Marcos will not discuss this matter with the BBB."
Here is what they said
"On August 09, 2011, the business provided the following information:
Mr. Vang has engaged in slander against Honda of San Marcos and attempted to purposley and unlawfully disrupt the dealership's ability to operate. As a result of these documented offenses and on advice from counsel Honda San Marcos will not discuss this matter with the BBB."
Libel is written. Slander is verbal.
#190
I am not going to call Ian back. I posted on the BBB
"I have not personally slander anyone or this dealership. If you have proof that I personally slander this business please let me see it. As far as the car go I still want my GT-R. I am not going to call and talk to Ian. He is a RUDE manager. I would like to speak to the owner as speaking to Ian will get no where."
"I have not personally slander anyone or this dealership. If you have proof that I personally slander this business please let me see it. As far as the car go I still want my GT-R. I am not going to call and talk to Ian. He is a RUDE manager. I would like to speak to the owner as speaking to Ian will get no where."
#191
^ Should have not responded. Delete if plausible. Don't play by their rules.
#195
"If you have proof that I personally slander this business please let me see it." This is where you age shows... Delete that response if you can... It's their issues with BBB..stay out of it. BBB will run their investigation...
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That may sound to the BBB that you are unwilling to cooperate?? maybe not.
And even a news article or web article is still IMO not slandering. Its letting the truth out and well that sometimes makes people unhappy.
Been keeping up with this and must say you have devoted a lot of effort in the last 2 days.
Good luck to you OP.
And even a news article or web article is still IMO not slandering. Its letting the truth out and well that sometimes makes people unhappy.
Been keeping up with this and must say you have devoted a lot of effort in the last 2 days.
Good luck to you OP.
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I would still delete it ASAP.
If you feel you must reply, I'd simply say something like "I have not done anything wrong, however, on the advice of my counsel I will leave it at that for now and allow the BBB to conduct their investigation".
Something like that. Posting what you did does not look good for you. By posting that Ian is RUDE and you will not get anywhere speaking with him... you are basically committing libel right on the BBB's website underneath a comment accusing you of slander
If you feel you must reply, I'd simply say something like "I have not done anything wrong, however, on the advice of my counsel I will leave it at that for now and allow the BBB to conduct their investigation".
Something like that. Posting what you did does not look good for you. By posting that Ian is RUDE and you will not get anywhere speaking with him... you are basically committing libel right on the BBB's website underneath a comment accusing you of slander
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