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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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Why old people should not be allowed to drive

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The nearly 40-mile trek down the wrong side of Interstate 80 could have ended badly — for the 88-year-old driver and the people in an oncoming car or truck.

But it didn't.

The North Platte, Neb., man drove the wrong way from North Platte to just west of Cozad on Tuesday night. As state troopers tried frantically to get him to pull over, he smiled and waved at them, ignoring the spotlight they shone into his minivan and twice driving over stop sticks that flattened his tires.

Capt. Jim Parish, commander of State Patrol Troop D out of North Platte, said three things helped:

"Divine intervention. . . . Pretty good work on our part. And attentive drivers."

The man's wife had sent him out to pick up some food for dinner and he got lost, Parish said.

The man somehow maneuvered his 1996 Chrysler Town and Country minivan onto the westbound lanes of I-80 and headed east. He stayed to the right, in the oncoming traffic's passing lane, treating the road like a two-lane highway, Parish said.

Troopers, alerted to the situation by motorists about 7:15 p.m., tried to get his attention as they drove east in the eastbound lanes.

"We were parallel with him" with the median in between, Parish said. "We couldn't go over there. We didn't want to hit anybody head-on."

As the chase unfolded, the elderly man's wife contacted North Platte police to report her husband missing. The minivan involved in the chase matched the one the man's wife reported him driving.

The man was aware of the state troopers, Parish said, but "I don't believe he realized what they were wanting him to do."

The driver had "a few very close calls" with oncoming traffic, but it never clicked that he was headed the wrong way, even after his tires were flattened, Parish said.

After several minutes, troopers were able to block the Interstate at Cozad. They didn't allow anybody to travel west.

When they were confident no other cars were coming, a patrol car crossed the median and drove alongside the driver's side of the minivan. The driver saw the flashing lights and pulled over two miles west of the Cozad interchange.

Excessive speed never was an issue. The man drove between 30 mph and 70 mph during the chase. And neither was the man drunk. "He was just very confused," Parish said.

The man was cited on suspicion of willful reckless driving and driving the wrong way on a freeway. He was taken to the Great Plains Regional Medical Center in North Platte for evaluation and treatment.

"I think some people did a pretty good job of driving," Parish said of the westbound motorists. "I imagine they thought, 'What on earth is this?'"
I imagine they thought a lot more than that.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Scary. At least no one got killed. People above a certain age should have to take driving tests every year, IMO.

My grandfather is 87 and still drives, but my family doesn't think he should. His reflexes are horrible.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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haha yea I imagine they thought, WHO THE FUCK LET THIS MOTHER FUCKER DRIVE THE FUCKING CAR WHEN HE IS 88 YEARS OLD.

wow this is some bull shit. I swear every year or 2 they have to make old people do the driving test again.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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There should just be more frequent tests given once you pass a certain age. I don't think you should take it away. Just make them pass the test.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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i want to drive if i ever get to 88
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pebe
Scary. At least no one got killed. People above a certain age should have to take driving tests every year, IMO.

My grandfather is 87 and still drives, but my family doesn't think he should. His reflexes are horrible.
I agree. What I dont understand is this....when youre 16 and getting your license, they pound it into your head that driving is a privilege, not a right. Yet when people are older they shy away from taking their license making it seem as though its more of a right than a privilege. I'm dumbfounded that they make you take a test when youre 16 to make sure you are able to drive, yet when you get older and start loosing your reflexes they dont.

How many "the more I hit the brakes the faster the car went" resulting in deaths or inadvertant drive throughs do we have to endure before they finally do something about it?
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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testing is needed, :duh:
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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throw a baseball at them. if they cant catch it they cant drive
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeroPSI

Why old people should not be allowed to drive

So, ZeroPSI, I'd like to know at what age you are going to voluntarily give up your drivers license?
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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That's why people should have to retake the driving test every few years.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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I witnessed an identical situation personally. I was basically driving alongside the old man driving on the wrong side of the highway. It ended in a 4 or 5 car accident.

http://newhavenregister.com/articles...t/17868400.txt
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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The solution:
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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I see too many old people who have no idea what the heck their doing on the road. Then again you could probably say that about every age group.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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Gosh and I thought the old guy who dropped a tire in the drainage ditch today was bad....
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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What's really scary is the grandmas with the lead foot who drive looking through the space in the steering wheel.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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Generally, with the sentiment here. I think elderly drivers tend to be at least as hazardous as teen drivers. Unlike teens though, the elderly have a fairly powerful political lobby (read: AARP) which will continue to circumvent any attempts at any formalized advanced age driving restrictions.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Razzi
throw a baseball at them. if they cant catch it they cant drive
At the same age where its socially acceptable to wear a diaper again.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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Really? This is Car Talk related?
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TS_eXpeed


I see too many old people who have no idea what the heck their doing on the road. Then again you could probably say that about every age group.
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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no one commented on the video? that was golden....crispy brown old people. dammit.




GRANDMAAAAAAAAAA
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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We already have that...


Once you reach 80 years of age, your driver's licence will be renewed every 2 years instead of every 5 years. You will have to go through a different process to renew your licence.

To renew your licence you will have to attend a driver's licence renewal session with other senior drivers. At this session, you will:

* Have your vision tested — to learn more, go to the vision section below
* Take a multiple-choice test on traffic rules and signs — to learn more, go to the test section below.
* Participate in a group education session — a ministry counsellor will teach a small group of seniors about how aging affects driving, tips on driving and new traffic laws (lasts about 90 minutes) — to learn more, go to the group education section below.

The whole session lasts approximately 3.5 hours.


There is more detailed info on what the licence renewal process entails, but that's the basic overview of how it's done here.
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 10:53 PM
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Of course, testing is only effective if someone is actually watching out (family, etc) and ensuring that older drivers are actually going in to renew their licence. Testing won't help those who simply forget or ignore to check-in and renew....I bet some just drive willingly or unwillingly with an expired licence until someone notices.
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 11:19 PM
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This hits home for me because I witnessed one a few years ago.

Woodward Avenue is one of the main arteries going north-south in the Detroit suburbs. Four lanes each way, speed limit of 50 in most sections.

One night, I was driving home northbound and noticed a pair of red lights on the other side of the median. I immediately realized this old guy was driving on the wrong side of the road, so I tried to get his attention to no avail. So I called the police, sped up to get ahead of him and started flashing at the oncoming traffic to alert them. Luckily the old geezer either realized what he was doing or was at the destination and turned into a subdivision after a mile or so.

Annual testing should be mandatory... seriously. I don't want to be in front of someone like him with my family in the car.
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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If we really wanted to be safe, or at least ensure that people still understand basic driving laws, testing should be done every year. Otherwise all age groups get sloppy and do stupid shit
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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Old Feb 1, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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I missed this thread from a few days ago. As a neurologist, I am frequently in a position to stop older people from driving. This is a classic case of a person with dementia (likely Alzheimer's) who should not be on the road. When the patient comes to my office for a dementia evaluation, I insist they bring family. Once I formally make the diagnosis, usually after some lab and radiological testing, I tell the patient and family that the person is no longer safe to drive.

Not even if they are MILDLY demented do I allow them to drive.

If I hear about them driving anyway, I make a report to the Ohio BMV to have the person's license revoked permanently. Luckily, most families are tuned in enough that they accommodate my request. In ten years of practice, I've had to resort to the BMV only once. I've never seen one of my patients on the 6 PM news, and I hope that continues to be the case.

I believe that over age 65, yearly testing AND medical clearance should be MANDATORY for safety reasons. I've actually considered starting a campaign for this here in Ohio, which has more elderly than in other states. There are many undiagnosed patients with dementia out there, who are still driving. Makes me ill to think about it...
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 05:59 AM
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I'd say that old guy is a pretty God-damned good driver. Driving the wrong way on a one-way street is impressive withouth getting into an accident.
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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anyone over the age of 65 should take a eye test, and either driving test to see if they still can, or a written test to see if they still know what the hell they are doing...just my
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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^ - Why not extend that to everyone?
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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65 isn't old. And if you extend testing to people that "young" --- are you willing to up the cost of your own licence to cover the extra cost to hire more employees and extend hours (which they just cut back, right?) to accommodate all of the extra tests? Not to mention, most people will probably live to see at least 75-80...you want to test them every year from 65 on....that's a lot of money per person over a 15-25 year span.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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well thats my exact point...first of all safer drivers on the road, 2nd it will create just a few more jobs(i know to many unemployed ppl as it is).even if it is only 20 hours a week way better in my opinion than nothing. 3rd my licence only costs me 20 bucks every 4 years. plus all the required testing would come out of their pocket anyways. the eye test is free and a road test is only like 30 bucks so there is not a huge hike in prices.....

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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 10:54 PM
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and the written test is like 15 bucks so if you cant afford 15-30 bucks a YEAR for your license then you probably shouldnt own a car......


p.s. safer drivers means lower car insurance rates for the state.(who doesnt want lower car insurance??)
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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I almost posted the article about the S. Korean grandmother who has failed the test over 110 times.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 01:22 AM
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I almost posted the article about the S. Korean grandmother who has failed the test 771 times.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 01:26 AM
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Holy shit I can't read
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