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Old 05-12-2017, 09:31 AM
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the LSA tb is 87mm... it's still good till 700 hp... when upgrading to a LS2/3/7, its a 3mm gain to 90mm... the next step is a NW102mm... but that's like 850+ whp before it will even make an impact... everything past the throttle body is 90mm so if you going to 102mm you need a ported snout to match otherwise its a straight bottleneck...

for the V2s, the LS7 works the best as a bolt on the LS3 is the same thing, i thought i read because of the direction the butterfly opens, but you want a gold blade one, not a silver... on mine i use a LS7 with no additional tune and it works great... for an LS2 tb, it's the same size but i usually see them used in the V1s...
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
Guys, after driving the RDX I will say that the throttle reponse is what is annoying me most about the wagon...so I will likely be looking into getting mine ported if the guy would do an exchange program.
<<<---- been saying for like months now... :grumble:
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Old 05-12-2017, 09:35 AM
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So essentially the stock TB is fine for flow.. but the LS3/7 orientation and butterfly valve is more optimal.
I wonder if it's programmed to open wider sooner with the same throttle input.
What's so different about the LS3 butterfly blades (gold / silver)?
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I saw spacers being sold, I guess it's a requirement for LS3/7 TB?
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I'm just wondering if can do a port and a shave the blades or replace.. or if it's actually programmed differently.
I might get one on the low low and report back on the technicals..
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hot damn.. ebay has them on the low low..
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You guys know anything about the WARR TBs?
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FFS... no wonder throttle seems like a dog.. check out throttle response map..

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Just get a sprint booster..
Or led foot mod.. Already have it..
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4hundid bones on a TB isn't an issue.. but I like to know exactly what I'm buying.
BC let's be real.. that's a performance Holly 4Barrel Carb price.. and it's just a spring and a blade amirite?
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That's not real is it?

Might as well just have a single-pole switch you flip when you want to put gas in the engine.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
So essentially the stock TB is fine for flow.. but the LS3/7 orientation and butterfly valve is more optimal.
I wonder if it's programmed to open wider sooner with the same throttle input.
What's so different about the LS3 butterfly blades (gold / silver)?
the stock one is fine for flow if you port it... stock you will see a hump at the bottom... GM does it for idle purposes but it really kills the flow... if you look at a stock LS3/7, it also has the hump but because it is 3mm bigger, it breathes better... if you port the LS3/7 it's probably your best bolt on without a tune...

if i recall, the LS2 was a silver blade... had something to do with the rotor motor inside...

bottom hump of stock LSA... that's one hump i don't care for...
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this is ported LSA, the bottom is much smoother
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Originally Posted by Majofo
I saw spacers being sold, I guess it's a requirement for LS3/7 TB?
you do not need a spacer for the LS7 on a stock pulley car... it's tight but it fits fine... you def need the spacer for 102mm

LS7 TB
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Originally Posted by Majofo
I'm just wondering if can do a port and a shave the blades or replace.. or if it's actually programmed differently.
I might get one on the low low and report back on the technicals..
you could do a self port on the LSA tb, you don't port past the butterfly, just the hump up to it... see pics above
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Originally Posted by Majofo
FFS... no wonder throttle seems like a dog.. check out throttle response map. Just get a sprint booster..
IMHO i wouldn't spend $150 for a Vitesse Throttle Controller... i'd rather use that money towards the tb so that its a more linear response from the gas pedal to the clench in my butthole...
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That's tight mang.. and I know tight.
I mean, not me.. butt others.

Thanks for the technicals Kam!
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Originally Posted by KaMLuNg
IMHO i wouldn't spend $150 for a Vitesse Throttle Controller... i'd rather use that money towards the tb so that its a more linear response from the gas pedal to the clench in my butthole...
Yeah no way.. I'd never waste my money.. just push my co..foot deeper.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
4hundid bones on a TB isn't an issue.. but I like to know exactly what I'm buying.
BC let's be real.. that's a performance Holly 4Barrel Carb price.. and it's just a spring and a blade amirite?
if you don't plan on doing pulleys and a tune, you can just send your TB off for porting... it's like $150-200 depending who does it... or just do a core exchange... it's more than fine for stock levels and really helps with the throttle response...

i only went LS7 because i plan to do pulleys later on and was just future proofing my mod... even though i already bought JB's ported LSA and ended up reselling it... it COULD have went to J nice but he was being a little responsible alpha... was too afraid to bone unicorns you know...
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I guess I'm chopped liver..
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Mmmmm... with some fried spam!
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Originally Posted by Majofo
I guess I'm chopped liver..
why not just get that rattle fixed first...

speaking of, where the hell are they with my car.... having Vagon withdrawal like J... my loaner is a little better than an RDX though... will post pics...
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Originally Posted by KaMLuNg
IMHO i wouldn't spend $150 for a Vitesse Throttle Controller... i'd rather use that money towards the tb so that its a more linear response from the gas pedal to the clench in my butthole...
This is so true. I was looking at that and had out myself on the list for the throttle controller to try that they are passing around. After the ported LS7 I have no need for it. It is perfect. I was super skeptical at first thinking how big of a deal could it really be but it just is. My tuner said it made such a big deal on my car he had to bump up the fuel it was giving the engine off the line since the throttle reaction was so improved.
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Originally Posted by KaMLuNg
if you don't plan on doing pulleys and a tune, you can just send your TB off for porting... it's like $150-200 depending who does it... or just do a core exchange... it's more than fine for stock levels and really helps with the throttle response...

i only went LS7 because i plan to do pulleys later on and was just future proofing my mod... even though i already bought JB's ported LSA and ended up reselling it... it COULD have went to J nice but he was being a little responsible alpha... was too afraid to bone unicorns you know...
No one should ever plan to not do pulleys and a tune. I am just saying. I couldn't go back now.
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
This is so true. I was looking at that and had out myself on the list for the throttle controller to try that they are passing around. After the ported LS7 I have no need for it. It is perfect. I was super skeptical at first thinking how big of a deal could it really be but it just is. My tuner said it made such a big deal on my car he had to bump up the fuel it was giving the engine off the line since the throttle reaction was so improved.
did you get an updated dyno after they put the LS7 on? i'm wondering how many more unicorn farts they squeezed out of the beast...
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They updated the tune on the dyno and on the street but didn't do a full pull for power at all.
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where dem pics Kam??
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i'll do a full review in mah thread cuzzzz
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Took a long weekend trip to PA this past weekend. I rolled over 80k miles while on the trip and arrived home parked in the garage at exactly 80777miles. I guess I should buy a loto ticket today. Car was flawless and a blast to drive the whole way. I made the trip with the box on top. I did learn that the box is good up to triple digits however not far over that first triple it starts to make some weird sounds I didn't want to hear. Some Google searching shows if I upgrade to a fiberglass box that shouldn't happen.



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lmao, OR, don't go triple digits while on a road trip with a huge box on the car
Looking good, man...you're catching me...I'm at 82K or so.

Also, kayak got a little funky around 100MPH too...
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Yeah that would probably be the responsible thing to do.

Although if I get a fiberglass one then I could have it painted to match the car.
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tow strap around the whole thing will probably shut it up too!
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That would look terrible though

If I could get a good return on this one it would be nice to buy a slightly shorter one. Bought this one off a friend without even test fitting it which was stupid and I can only open the rear hatch like a foot and a half. It really sucks. However, it does hold almost twice as much as I can fit in the hatch which is impressive.
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Awesome Colts! You enjoying the shit out of her now? Sounds like it!
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Awesome Colts! You enjoying the shit out of her now? Sounds like it!
I am definitely enjoying the shit out of it. Still not taking her WOT much though because there just isn't a lot of places I can do that. I get excited everytime I get to get in the car though.
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show us picture proof of your excitement.
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You couldn't handle that if I showed it too you
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I fully intend on not handling it, if I see it.
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icey did you order the catch can hoses online? if so can you share source please?
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icey did you order the catch can hoses online? if so can you share source please?
Yes I did. I ordered it off Amazon. You might have been able to get cheaper hose but I wanted it quickly. I had more than enough so I could take the long way and make the install look clean rather than going the short route which doesn't look nearly as good. Did you end up going with the same can as I did?

Its a lot of hose but you will have plenty left over for other projects.
Amazon Amazon

I also ordered these black hose clamps for a more stealth look.
Amazon Amazon

Used this brass Y to connect the two drains on my can into one.
Amazon Amazon

I then used the drain kit specifically for the V that the guy that makes the metal v badges sells.


If you are doing the same can install that I have I can see if I have enough to send you from my order of hose. I don't recall exactly how many feet of it that I used but I can check when I get home tonight.
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Originally Posted by KaMLuNg
icey did you order the catch can hoses online? if so can you share source please?
Yes I did. I ordered it off Amazon. You might have been able to get cheaper hose but I wanted it quickly. I had more than enough so I could take the long way and make the install look clean rather than going the short route which doesn't look nearly as good. Did you end up going with the same can as I did?

Its a lot of hose but you will have plenty left over for other projects. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PLMLJEI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I also ordered these black hose clamps for a more stealth look. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000WO6UVC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Used this brass Y to connect the two drains on my can into one. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YX8WAV2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I then used the drain kit specifically for the V that the guy that makes the metal v badges sells. (edit: here is the link to the drain kit http://www.ctsvowners.com/forum/178-...available.html)


If you are doing the same can install that I have I can see if I have enough to send you from my order of hose. I don't recall exactly how many feet of it that I used but I can check when I get home tonight.

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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
Yes I did. I ordered it off Amazon. You might have been able to get cheaper hose but I wanted it quickly. I had more than enough so I could take the long way and make the install look clean rather than going the short route which doesn't look nearly as good. Did you end up going with the same can as I did?

Its a lot of hose but you will have plenty left over for other projects. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I also ordered these black hose clamps for a more stealth look. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Used this brass Y to connect the two drains on my can into one. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I then used the drain kit specifically for the V that the guy that makes the metal v badges sells.


If you are doing the same can install that I have I can see if I have enough to send you from my order of hose. I don't recall exactly how many feet of it that I used but I can check when I get home tonight.
Ben actually didn't have the new WX dual in stock... but he had the original SM dual... so i'm going to mount it inside the airraid box... so it should be a shorter run for me... yea if you have extra you looking to get rid of, let me know...otherwise i'll just drop a prime order...


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