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Old 10-20-2017, 11:10 AM
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Did it have to do with last night? Because you promised you wouldn't tell anyone .
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I know exactly why ...
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Motor is out.

Predictably, we ran into a few snags but otherwise went pretty smoothly.

I can say with certainty that the motor has never been pulled before - This car lived in Ohio for a bit, so driveshaft bolts were extremely stubborn and the driveshaft itself was seized to the transmission. With some elbow grease and a rubber mallet, it finally broke free. Also, secondary o2 sensors are almost impossible to remove .. letting them soak in PB blaster for the night and taking a stab at it again tomorrow.

The plan this week is cleaning, LOTs of cleaning.

The engine bay looks surprisingly good, but I plan on going through it and removing any caked oil deposits and borrowing a friends pressure washer. I will also be rubbing down the motor and start the easy stuff like valve cover gaskets and the injector install.

I'm hoping to have the transmission separated & the clutch / rear main seal done before next weekend, but we'll see.

Very happy with the progress!

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Really impressed with how clean it is in there too.
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Old 10-22-2017, 11:15 AM
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Crazy.

Make sure to take a photo of yourself in the engine bay LOL
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Old 10-22-2017, 01:23 PM
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Wow nice work! The bay looks pretty clean! It would be so satisfying to get in there and clean!
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Old 10-22-2017, 01:43 PM
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Make that engine bay shine!

before I put the Nismo away for the season () just last week, I took all four wheels off and cleaned every suspension and brake component I could get at. Because not OCD. I swear.
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Here she is.



I worked for about 45 minutes on Sunday to get the downpipes removed and examine the old turbos. They definitely have some life left in them, very little input shaft play and fins are in perfect condition.

16 years old, 131,000 miles, 50,000 of those being tuned.

Borgwarner knows how to make a turbo






This is my first ever motor pull - The friends helping me through this ordeal have done many .. but I insisted we stay organized.



That's all for now.

I have a few hours after work today to begin the task of cleaning out the engine bay & motor / trans as best as I can.

Thanks for reading

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Old 10-23-2017, 09:37 AM
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Motor looks super easy to work on when sitting on a dolly...
Old 10-23-2017, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Motor looks super easy to work on when sitting on a dolly...
You aren't wrong.

Fun fact: It takes the same amount of time to pull a motor vs installing downpipes ... yeah, let that sink in
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It's almost as if they may have designed it that way...
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BALLS deep.
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
BALLS deep.
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I admire your dedication.
I can't wait until you're brapping more than you're fapping.
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Old 10-23-2017, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
I admire your dedication.
I can't wait until you're brapping more than you're fapping.
Thanks J

1 1/2 years in the making ... I'm ready.
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Engine bay is clean - I did it the ol' fashioned way, simple green and a hose ... but I think it turned out pretty good!



I started wiping down the motor and inspecting for leaks ... oh did I find some. Both valve cover / cam seal gaskets are leaking

Did I mention I already had these done? FML.

Here's one side...



More updates to follow.
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Old 10-24-2017, 06:27 AM
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WTF, had them done recently?
That's insane!
yeah, that looks great...
you should consider adding steam cleaner to your arsenal, T. I have a Mculloch one...it's amazing the shit you can get out of your carpet and headliner and it makes it awesome to clean up gunk.
Come to think of it, I need to get it going to clean up my engine bay too.
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Dang looks like I have been missing all the fun. Great work so far. Engine bay looks amazing for a car that age that was up north. Also my OCD makes me label all the bolts like that when I take stuff apart too.
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
WTF, had them done recently?
That's insane!
yeah, that looks great...
you should consider adding steam cleaner to your arsenal, T. I have a Mculloch one...it's amazing the shit you can get out of your carpet and headliner and it makes it awesome to clean up gunk.
Come to think of it, I need to get it going to clean up my engine bay too.
The picture above is from the driverside valve cover - thinking about it, I didn't buy OEM gaskets and after some quick Googling .. people swear by OEMs. Live and learn I guess.

I have an OEM valve cover gasket kit that I'm going to throw on tonight / tomorrow and have another one on the way.

I'll give the steam cleaner some thought!
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
Dang looks like I have been missing all the fun. Great work so far. Engine bay looks amazing for a car that age that was up north. Also my OCD makes me label all the bolts like that when I take stuff apart too.
Thank you!

I thought for a project of this magnitude it would be in my best interest to stay organized. Crazy, that plastic bin weighs about 15 pounds
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Damn dude, you sure you can put it back together? cuz i know i can't
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Old 10-24-2017, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TylerT
Thank you!

I thought for a project of this magnitude it would be in my best interest to stay organized. Crazy, that plastic bin weighs about 15 pounds

Toss the bin = weight reduction.


Or get all Titanium bolts now
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Looking forward to the end result.
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Johnny, I thought the same thing!
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Damn dude, you sure you can put it back together? cuz i know i can't
Uhhh, I'll get back to you on that

Originally Posted by thoiboi
Toss the bin = weight reduction.


Or get all Titanium bolts now


This thought literally went through my head when I moved the bolt bin for the first time - what if I changed out ALL of the bolts out to titanium?!

Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2

Looking forward to the end result.
Hopefully sooner than later.

The beauty of it is, I get to take my time ... the car doesn't have to be running now, or in 2 months ... just want to make sure it's done right

The only sense of urgency for me is wanting to drive my car with double the horsepower

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Originally Posted by TylerT
This thought literally went through my head when I moved the bolt bin for the first time - what if I changed out ALL of the bolts out to titanium?!
It's only $$ & you can't take it with you #yolo
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Update:

Nothing crazy to report, but I finally got a few hours yesterday and got the transmission pulled from the motor.

Difficult job for 1 person? Absolutely.

If I were to give an estimate, I would say the transmission weights about 150-200 pounds. For convenience sake, I had to make the transmission mobile & being able to move it around when it came time to put them back together - I picked up a cheap 10 dollar wooden dolly and put some spare 2x4s across the middle. In addition to that, I added some scrap carpet for extra cushion (for the pushin).



Did roughly the same thing for the motor:



First things first, label your bolts and your locations - these bolts are all different sizes except for the 2 x 8mm Hex & 1 x 13mm nut on the bottom.



After quite a bit of re-positioning, yanking, pulling, it finally broke free.



Lots of cleaning to be done:





More updates to follow - I plan on pulling the clutch assembly & both turbos out tonight ...

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Old 10-27-2017, 09:46 AM
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Update:

Let me first start by saying, I have an incredible wife. I've been dedicating a lot of time to this project and she has been supportive of it since it started - she obviously isn't passionate about cars, but it's nice to see your SO try to take an interest in it.

I'm slowly chipping away at it day by day, maybe squeezing in an hour or two when I can.

Yesterday, I got the OEM flywheel / clutch disk / pressure plate removed from the motor - an impact was key for removing these bolts since I do not have a crank pin (Locks the crank so the flywheel doesn't spin)





After removing the flywheel, it's pretty apparent that I do in fact need my rear main seal done - this would explain the pesky oil leak that I've had since owning the car.




In addition to that, I removed the driverside turbo & inlet pipes, passenger one is very close to coming out .. just need to modify (aka ruin) a 19mm wrench in order to take off the few banjo bolts that connect the coolant lines.



This is all for now.

The good news is, the majority of the tear down is done. Only big job from here is removing the intake manifold and installing injectors... everything else should bolt-on (hopefully )

I have a good chunk of time this weekend and it'll be mainly dedicated to pressure washing the transmission / motor / all the filthy bits that will eventually make it onto the car.

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Update:

TLDR; Got rear main seal done and pressure washed the transmission.




Finally got the rear main seal done on Sunday with the help of a friend - I would say it's not particularly difficult, but it's a job that you can very easily screw up . If it leaks .. you need to pull the motor, again.

Usually the rear main seal has a plastic cone / insert tool that aligns the gasket perfectly over the crank while it slides over - I did not have this tool .. so we had to mock one up.




After 3 attempts of mounting the gasket / flange, we finally got a seal on there that I felt comfortable with. We torqued down each bolt to factory spec of 7lb and tightened inside out.

At the bottom of the metal plate, you need to add a thin layer of RTV gasket maker to insure there's no oil leaks. I added another thin layer on the outside for shits and gigs.

Did I mention how badly I don't want this to leak?


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Clean




Also, here's a few pics my buddy snapped on the Occupy Big Bear Euro festival when the ETH FO was running. Man, I miss driving this car.






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love this update...getting there. can't wait to see what your driving impressions will be afterward.
also...***ensure
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Thanks J!

I'm getting excited as well - I'd say I'm at the 50% compleshun mark
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That trans is so fresh..
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Tyler, hurry up and get to blipshift!!!

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I refuse to believe my car has the Nogaro curse
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I like how that is the ONLY post Tyler hasn't "liked".
You lo(o)se, Adam!
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I don't like curses
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First i thought it was a picture demonstrating how much traction Quattro has...
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Personally, I'd just put black electrical tape over the "cursed" part. No one would be the wiser


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