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Old 10-13-2022, 12:11 PM
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White exterior with that interior?!?!
I swear you better buy that thing, Tyler.
I'm not sure what I'll sell but that's badass.
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I'm about ready to throw in the motor in the yellow car but selling it may take between 1-2 months depending if I find the right buyer.
BaT. It'll be gone in a week.
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If it sold at $12k, it would take a $600 fee + listing fee.

Ehhh.

The last 14x,xxx clean / factory S4 sold for 11k at no reserve (It was peasant silver) - I have no idea what Imola would pull on BAT but I think I'll take my chances listing it on the FB Groups first.

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Go local first, then if you're not getting the bites you want, BaT or Cars/Bids & bump the price to compensate for the fees.
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A7 is gone at 5pm today.

Can't say I won't regret it - car was incredible but the money will be nice and it'll press me a bit harder to get the yellow car done.
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Originally Posted by TylerT
If it sold at $12k, it would take a $600 fee + listing fee.

Ehhh.

The last 14x,xxx clean / factory S4 sold for 11k at no reserve (It was peasant silver) - I have no idea what Imola would pull on BAT but I think I'll take my chances listing it on the FB Groups first.
List on cars and bids. No listing fee and buyer pays 5% for the sale. Pretty much no cost to you.
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BaT is $99 to list with no other fees to the seller.
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list it on mods and miles. they pay you $ fiddy to sell
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Or sell it to me for $50. No fees at all.
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I'll give you $55, you pay shipping
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Front lockers are a real unicorn, you should buy it asap.
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he found 3 of them.
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Originally Posted by 1StGenCL
Front lockers are a real unicorn, you should buy it asap.
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he found 3 of them.
That one is a unicorn in the sense that it's clean / has up to date services

The other 3 I found somewhat locally are a little beat
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isn't it being a little beat a prereq?
like, how do you know it can handle the shit you're about to throw at it
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It is but, I'm looking for one with a good mechanical service history / clean title. Those, especially at that price point, are few and far between.

I can deal with some seat rips / paint that's gone.
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if you're anything like me, it just can't look like a total POS for the mrs when you get home
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Figured I'd drop an update - I test drove probably one of the cheapest running & driving Cayenne turbos in Southern California .. maybe even as far as the surrounding states, too

Right now, I'm in the school of thought of either - getting something solid mechanically / rough around the edges for cheap .. or, finding something turn key for under 10k.

This thing popped up on FB Marketplace and since it's a few miles from one of my office locations, I decided to go into the office and take a look at it.



Right away, I meet with the owner who runs a smaller used car lot - car isn't even on his lot, he's selling it for a friend of his who bought a new Cayenne turbo and wants to get whatever he can get for it.

My car buying senses told me to run away, but I kept asking questions.

Off the bat - battery is dead, pretty apparent lifter tick & valvetrain noise upon startup as the car had been sitting for months prior, few vacuum lines were ghetto rigged, parking brake light won't shut off, AC isn't charged ..

Then .. I drove it (which was my mistake).

It drives really nicely - it was 95F yesterday and I must have killed $15 in gas - took brake boosted launches up to 100mph multiple times .. it didn't care. It's crazy how fast a 5000lb SUV can be.

Once it warmed up and I put miles on it, the valvetrain noise went away. Transmission shifted nicely and through all gears, air suspension works, etc.

I spoke with him after the test drive and told him if he can get it to pass smog .. I will give him $4k for it.

Cliffs:
  • 2 Owners
  • Clean title / no accidents reported
  • Lots of service records
  • Interior is clean / no rips
  • Paint is done but the roof, quarter panels, doors, hatch, etc have no clear rot - hood / bumper are done
  • Good brakes
  • New tires
  • Solid drivetrain
Nothing is for sure ... I'm a little pessimistic of it passing smog but it didn't misfire and there were no immediate codes.

Stay tuned
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Old 10-20-2022, 08:22 AM
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Other than the rough paint, seems like some minor maintenance & a solid truck?
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Other than the rough paint, seems like some minor maintenance & a solid truck?
Seems that way, yes

Cayennes / Porsche in general are not my specialty and there’s a lot that can go wrong here.

Seems the turbo doesn’t suffer from the cylinder scoring issues like the N/A 4.5L V8s, transmissions are solid, and air suspension for the most part is reliable.

This particular example seems like it was cared for mostly throughout its life.

Seems like a lot of little things to address - if the paint is sorted / I give it the ol’ turd shine treatment as I always do, I think I could make it out relatively unscathed.

I messaged the guy this morning and he took it home to put miles on it and will report back if it’ll pass smog by this afternoon or tomorrow.

Trying not to get my hopes up.
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You're a masochist mechanically inclined. As long as it "passes" smog, I think it's perfect for you.
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Good luck and god speed. That thing looks like it'll either be the best thing you've ever done or financially ruin you for generations to come lol.

I bet the lifter tick is just low or incorrect oil. A quick change will probably resolve that issue. Porsche motors are usually pretty stout.

Does this gen Cayenne suffer from the brittle coolant pipe issue? Pretty sure it does but not positive.
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Good luck and god speed. That thing looks like it'll either be the best thing you've ever done or financially ruin you for generations to come lol.

I bet the lifter tick is just low or incorrect oil. A quick change will probably resolve that issue. Porsche motors are usually pretty stout.

Does this gen Cayenne suffer from the brittle coolant pipe issue? Pretty sure it does but not positive.
It does but, I looked at the DIY procedure and it doesn't look too bad .

At a $4k price point, I don't think it'll financially ruin me if it's all DIY - a lot of these get parted so part abundance is nice and much more affordable than I thought.
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Welp ... I spoke to the seller and we have a time set for pickup .

Little bit of a delay working through the deal - The Cayenne ruptured it's expansion tank earlier in the week so he managed to get a replacement and drive it 75 miles to get all of it's readiness monitors done - after the drive, it had 1 code for the secondary air injection which is a no go for smog.

Hopefully going to use that to further my bargaining .. but, I will be walking away with it today.

Stay tuned.

Current plan is -

With tax time around the corner, wife and I agreed that my budget is $1000 to make this as road worthy as possible ... I should be be able to get away with the secondary air injection pumps, parking brake fix, and maybe some valve cover gaskets for that budget.

Paint will come earlier next year.

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Awesome! Looking forward to this build thread.
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Originally Posted by TylerT
Hopefully going to use that to further my bargaining .. but, I will be walking away with it today.
You know how I know you've owned B5 S4s?
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Looking forward to AZ Cayenne #2
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Awesome! Looking forward to this build thread.


Originally Posted by civicdrivr
You know how I know you've owned B5 S4s?
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If you know, you know.

Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
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I won't even compare to @1StGenCL ... his Cayenne is shaping up to be the perfect offroad build.

Mine ... will be a turd for some time
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this is good.
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If you know, you know.





I won't even compare to @1StGenCL ... his Cayenne is shaping up to be the perfect offroad build.

Mine ... will be a turd for some time
no way, yours will be spectacular
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For $3800, I can’t complain.

First priority is getting it smogged and fixing the funkyness with the keys /
remotes, otherwise, no issues on the drive back and I’m happy to report that it has no ticking noise, even when cold.

I think I made out like a bandit. A very stupid bandit.










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Aftermarket taillights?
Headliner
Otherwise
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Yeah, you need to replace with OEM tail lights and get rid of those abominations lol.

Also, did you at least ask what was up with the headliner and why they used 200 fasteners to stick it back up?

Sounds like all the expensive stuff will hopefully be ok, just the cosmetic stuff and you'll be ballin' out in your Porsche.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Aftermarket taillights?
Headliner
Otherwise
Aftermarket taillights yeah - not a fan at all lmao.

Aesthetics are on the backburner but OEM tails are in the future.

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Yeah, you need to replace with OEM tail lights and get rid of those abominations lol.

Also, did you at least ask what was up with the headliner and why they used 200 fasteners to stick it back up?

Sounds like all the expensive stuff will hopefully be ok, just the cosmetic stuff and you'll be ballin' out in your Porsche.
Honestly .. the pins have held really well over time .

Cosmetic stuff comes later .. I also discovered the passenger headlight doesn't work.

Most likely a wiring issue as it's pretty common on the 955 Cayennes.

I took apart the secondary air injection pumps and they're toast .. fins are busted and will need to be replaced.

Sourcing some, plugging them in, and hopefully I can get it to pass smog.

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After 2 hours doing plugs on my sister's Edge last weekend in the driveway (with leaves & acorns falling all around), trying to maintain an older VAG product without a garage doesn't sound like fun.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
After 2 hours doing plugs on my sister's Edge last weekend in the driveway (with leaves & acorns falling all around), trying to maintain an older VAG product without a garage doesn't sound like fun.
In my time with german cars I've found that maintenance items are really well thought out and straightforward OR you have to pull the engine out lol.

With Fords (and other American cars too), it looks like it was designed by a bunch of monkeys who forgot about certain features part way through the design process and shoehorned it back in in a haphazard fashion making it not possible to service it without swearing and cursing the engineers who designed it.
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After 2 hours doing plugs on my sister's Edge last weekend in the driveway (with leaves & acorns falling all around), trying to maintain an older VAG product without a garage doesn't sound like fun.
Worst case, I can always move the nogaro on the street while it's being worked on but I'd rather not. The other big priority is getting the yellow car out of my garage and sold .

TBH, it runs fine .. shouldn't make much to get it to pass smog.

Once that's done, I can slowly chip away at it.
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
In my time with german cars I've found that maintenance items are really well thought out and straightforward OR you have to pull the engine out lol.

With Fords (and other American cars too), it looks like it was designed by a bunch of monkeys who forgot about certain features part way through the design process and shoehorned it back in in a haphazard fashion making it not possible to service it without swearing and cursing the engineers who designed it.
Much cursing was done at the lack of space & invisible attachments.

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Worst case, I can always move the nogaro on the street while it's being worked on but I'd rather not. The other big priority is getting the yellow car out of my garage and sold .

TBH, it runs fine .. shouldn't make much to get it to pass smog.

Once that's done, I can slowly chip away at it.
My main issue is not having a garage, at all. So only minimal maintenance will be done at home.
If I need something more, I may have shop access at my dad's, but that's 1.5hrs away.
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