Radar help! V1 or Passport 9500xi
09-05-2008, 08:51 AM
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Radar help! V1 or Passport 9500xi
Hey guys, I already own a V1 but i was wondering how the new Passport 9500xi is.
My dad just bought a Infiniti G37 Coupe (I tried to convince him to get another TL but failed =/ )
and he wants a new radar.
I know the V1 is a great radar that outperforms the most but it gives out too much false alarms even with L mode on.
So anyone have or tried the Passport 9500xi? I know it costs $100 more but yeah.
Speaking of V1, I really need to hardwire it hahaha =X
So ya, let me hear what ya think!
My dad just bought a Infiniti G37 Coupe (I tried to convince him to get another TL but failed =/ )
and he wants a new radar.
I know the V1 is a great radar that outperforms the most but it gives out too much false alarms even with L mode on.
So anyone have or tried the Passport 9500xi? I know it costs $100 more but yeah.
Speaking of V1, I really need to hardwire it hahaha =X
So ya, let me hear what ya think!
Last edited by JLJL; 09-05-2008 at 08:54 AM.
09-05-2008, 09:16 AM
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V1 hands down, and I will defend this until something better comes along...
False alarams...Yes, on X and K band, Ka/Laser NEVER....Plus I'm so use to the noise, the conceal display and the arrows...
Hardwiring is very easy, there is a beautiful thread with a DIY. And check out all of the radar review sites, watch all the videos, and make the decision for yourself.
But from my experience, my V1 already paid for itself dozens of times...and this is no joke.
False alarams...Yes, on X and K band, Ka/Laser NEVER....Plus I'm so use to the noise, the conceal display and the arrows...
Hardwiring is very easy, there is a beautiful thread with a DIY. And check out all of the radar review sites, watch all the videos, and make the decision for yourself.
But from my experience, my V1 already paid for itself dozens of times...and this is no joke.
09-05-2008, 09:30 AM
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Burning Brakes
I currently have the Escort 9500i and recently sold a V1. Both are great detectors, with about the same range. The V1 is a litte better on K band, but not many cops use K band anymore. K is used by a lot of business auto door openers. The V1 gives far more false alerts than the 9500i. The arrows were nice, but I really didn't need them. The 9500i annouces which band it's picking up and how many. You can also lock out any area where you get false alarms and if it picks up a different band in that area it will alert. Having both, I would choose the 9500si over the V1, but you can't really go wrong with either.
09-05-2008, 10:37 AM
#6
Trolling Canuckistan
The ability to work with the arrows and bogey count make it the best in my book. If the passports would work this into their unit, I would consider one. Like fuzzy said more sensitive is better than not sensitive enough.
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09-05-2008, 01:14 PM
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With more and more cops using "instant on" these days radar detectors are becoming obsolete IMO. I use to be an aggressive driver in the past but over the past 2 years I have eased off on the gas pedal a lot. Drive responsibly and you wont need a radar detector, ever.
On a more pertinent note, if you do need a radar detector then get the V1, I bought mine in 04 and it has saved my ass from getting a ticket many times. I stopped using mine since last year btw.
On a more pertinent note, if you do need a radar detector then get the V1, I bought mine in 04 and it has saved my ass from getting a ticket many times. I stopped using mine since last year btw.
09-05-2008, 03:42 PM
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I think the arrows is one of the best features of the V1. I've used my friends detectors from time to time, but I'm always look for my arrows. It just another key feature that gives you the ability to tell where a signal is coming from and because of that the V1 will win every time in my book.
09-05-2008, 04:03 PM
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Ive got the older 8500 and the V1, my buddy has the 9500. In my eyes both the escort modes are better, Far less falses with the escort than the V1, about the same distances (escort being better with laser) and the 9500 is much nicer than the 8500.
09-06-2008, 03:03 AM
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hm i thought V1 was best with laser? but i guess it doesnt matter much because if there are
no cars infront of you and cop lasers your ass your doomed anyways. So hmm it's really
really hard making a decision lol i already know what V1 is like but never had any
experience with the passports so i'm still debating haha
hmmm....
no cars infront of you and cop lasers your ass your doomed anyways. So hmm it's really
really hard making a decision lol i already know what V1 is like but never had any
experience with the passports so i'm still debating haha
hmmm....
09-06-2008, 05:58 AM
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Trolling Canuckistan
And the Expert mode on the Escort shows how many up to 5 each band at the same(total of 15 of something like that) time and their strength. Arrows are nice but FAR over rated.
Ive got the older 8500 and the V1, my buddy has the 9500. In my eyes both the escort modes are better, Far less falses with the escort than the V1, about the same distances (escort being better with laser) and the 9500 is much nicer than the 8500.
Ive got the older 8500 and the V1, my buddy has the 9500. In my eyes both the escort modes are better, Far less falses with the escort than the V1, about the same distances (escort being better with laser) and the 9500 is much nicer than the 8500.
You also have the ability to upgrade the internals on the V1 which I see as a benefit vs buying a new one every few years but in the end, these are the 2 radar detectors to choose from. Anything less than a V1/Escort/Passport is a waste of money IMO.
09-06-2008, 08:58 AM
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Fahrvergnügen'd
Normally, I've considered radar detectors a waste of money because I don't break the speed limit by more than 5mph in most places.
But I could see a benefit for more urban roads where you might not realize the speed limit dropped from 50mph to 35mph for no good reason.
Will these things pick up speed cameras?
But I could see a benefit for more urban roads where you might not realize the speed limit dropped from 50mph to 35mph for no good reason.
Will these things pick up speed cameras?
09-06-2008, 10:08 AM
#16
Burning Brakes
hm i thought V1 was best with laser? but i guess it doesnt matter much because if there are
no cars infront of you and cop lasers your ass your doomed anyways. So hmm it's really
really hard making a decision lol i already know what V1 is like but never had any
experience with the passports so i'm still debating haha
hmmm....
no cars infront of you and cop lasers your ass your doomed anyways. So hmm it's really
really hard making a decision lol i already know what V1 is like but never had any
experience with the passports so i'm still debating haha
hmmm....
With laser it doesn't matter which detector you have, by the time the dectector alerts you have already been tagged.
09-06-2008, 11:02 AM
#17
Speed cameras are sensors in the road. Not radar. So no.
I have proven many times that a laser hit is NOT always death. My V1 has picked up hidden PBC cops many times on bikes behind trees shooting laser.
Many times the laser beam will reflect off another car or other object, & the detector will pick it up.
If you get caught or not depends on your reaction to the alert. The next alert you get will likely be from the cop tagging you(or just tagged)
I have proven many times that a laser hit is NOT always death. My V1 has picked up hidden PBC cops many times on bikes behind trees shooting laser.
Many times the laser beam will reflect off another car or other object, & the detector will pick it up.
If you get caught or not depends on your reaction to the alert. The next alert you get will likely be from the cop tagging you(or just tagged)
09-06-2008, 04:42 PM
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09-07-2008, 12:44 AM
#20
I shoot people
I've always kinda wish my Beltronics RX65 had arrows... but then again... honestly? when the RD goes off... you naturally slow down (or in some cases slam on the brakes) and behave... it doesn't matter where it's coming from, you should just behave in the meantime anyway. So, I guess I can live without it. Laser is always hard to detect... here's an article explaining how laser work
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question396.htm
the cops usually aim for the license plate, grill, or headlights... There are some radar detector forums that have discussions about how it helps having the license plate taped over with 3M's CLEAR duct tape (I found some at Home Depot for about $4)... making the front plate less reflective... thus allowing more time for the RD to pick up the laser and/or giving you more reaction time. But recently I took the front plate off... one less thing for the cops to aim at, but one more reason for them to pull me over (I guess). I just hate the look of the front plate on my car. I think statistics have shown... cops with lasers prefer going after brighter colored cars over dark... simply because the laser works better.
My headlight housings are blacked out, thus making them less reflective too, I just need to smoke the chrome on my grill... something I've been wanting to do for a long time anyway (aesthetic reasons, not just to avoid getting a ticket)
the STi model is only useful if you live in a state (or Canadian province) where radar detectors are illegal OR if you operate a semi (it's illegal for ALL truckers to own a radar detector in ALL states). The STi is not detectable by RDD's (Radar Detector-Detectors, yes cops actually use them)... When I called Beltronics directly to order the STi, the lady actually talked me out of it because in California RD's aren't illegal to have and since I don't drive 18 wheelers... it would've been a waste of money... Otherwise the STi doesn't perform any better than the RX65.
and YES, my Beltronics RX65 has saved my ass several times.
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question396.htm
How does a laser speed gun work to measure a cars speed?
If you have read the article entitled How Radar Works, then you know how normal radar works. A normal radar set sends out a radio pulse and waits for the reflection. Then it measures the doppler shift in the signal and uses the shift to determine the speed.
Laser (or lidar, for light detection and ranging) speed guns use a more direct method that relies on the reflection time of light rather than doppler shift. You have probably experienced the reflection time of sound waves in the form of an echo. For example, if you shout down a well or across a canyon, the sound takes a noticeable amount of time to reach the bottom of the well and travel back to your ear. Sound travels at something like 1,000 feet (300 meters) per second, so a deep well or a wide canyon creates a very apparent round-trip time for the sound.
A laser speed gun measures the round-trip time for light to reach a car and reflect back. Light from a laser speed gun moves a lot faster than sound -- about 984,000,000 feet per second (300,000,000 meters), or roughly 1 foot (30 cm) per nanosecond. A laser speed gun shoots a very short burst of infrared laser light and then waits for it to reflect off the vehicle. The gun counts the number of nanoseconds it takes for the round trip, and by dividing by 2 it can calculate the distance to the car. If the gun takes 1,000 samples per second, it can compare the change in distance between samples and calculate the speed of the car. By taking several hundred samples over the course of a third of a second or so, the accuracy can be very high.
The advantage of a laser speed gun (for the police anyway) is that the size of the "cone" of light that the gun emits is very small, even at a range like 1,000 feet (300 meters). The cone at this distance might be 3 feet (1 meter) in diameter. This allows the gun to target a specific vehicle. A laser speed gun is also very accurate. The disadvantage is that the officer has to aim a laser speed gun -- normal police radar with a broad radar beam can detect doppler shift without aiming.
If you have read the article entitled How Radar Works, then you know how normal radar works. A normal radar set sends out a radio pulse and waits for the reflection. Then it measures the doppler shift in the signal and uses the shift to determine the speed.
Laser (or lidar, for light detection and ranging) speed guns use a more direct method that relies on the reflection time of light rather than doppler shift. You have probably experienced the reflection time of sound waves in the form of an echo. For example, if you shout down a well or across a canyon, the sound takes a noticeable amount of time to reach the bottom of the well and travel back to your ear. Sound travels at something like 1,000 feet (300 meters) per second, so a deep well or a wide canyon creates a very apparent round-trip time for the sound.
A laser speed gun measures the round-trip time for light to reach a car and reflect back. Light from a laser speed gun moves a lot faster than sound -- about 984,000,000 feet per second (300,000,000 meters), or roughly 1 foot (30 cm) per nanosecond. A laser speed gun shoots a very short burst of infrared laser light and then waits for it to reflect off the vehicle. The gun counts the number of nanoseconds it takes for the round trip, and by dividing by 2 it can calculate the distance to the car. If the gun takes 1,000 samples per second, it can compare the change in distance between samples and calculate the speed of the car. By taking several hundred samples over the course of a third of a second or so, the accuracy can be very high.
The advantage of a laser speed gun (for the police anyway) is that the size of the "cone" of light that the gun emits is very small, even at a range like 1,000 feet (300 meters). The cone at this distance might be 3 feet (1 meter) in diameter. This allows the gun to target a specific vehicle. A laser speed gun is also very accurate. The disadvantage is that the officer has to aim a laser speed gun -- normal police radar with a broad radar beam can detect doppler shift without aiming.
My headlight housings are blacked out, thus making them less reflective too, I just need to smoke the chrome on my grill... something I've been wanting to do for a long time anyway (aesthetic reasons, not just to avoid getting a ticket)
the STi model is only useful if you live in a state (or Canadian province) where radar detectors are illegal OR if you operate a semi (it's illegal for ALL truckers to own a radar detector in ALL states). The STi is not detectable by RDD's (Radar Detector-Detectors, yes cops actually use them)... When I called Beltronics directly to order the STi, the lady actually talked me out of it because in California RD's aren't illegal to have and since I don't drive 18 wheelers... it would've been a waste of money... Otherwise the STi doesn't perform any better than the RX65.
and YES, my Beltronics RX65 has saved my ass several times.
09-07-2008, 06:56 PM
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I'm a V1 guy all the way. The arrows are definitely helpful in that I can tell whether I'm dealing with a falsie or not in the city. I pretty much ignore K and X band as the cops are all using laser or Ka band.
09-07-2008, 07:40 PM
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Get the SRX. Nothing showing except the rear detector below the rear camera. Small unit inside one of the cubie holes in front of the shift that you can close after you turn it off if a cop is walking up to your car. The ones in the front sit behind the bumper and are invisible.
My wife pissed a cop off when he seen her 9500i hanging on the window. It's ugly and obscures your vision. Makes ungodly noises. Only thing I like about it is the memory or GPS for false alarms.
Downside of the SRX is they cost a little more.
My wife pissed a cop off when he seen her 9500i hanging on the window. It's ugly and obscures your vision. Makes ungodly noises. Only thing I like about it is the memory or GPS for false alarms.
Downside of the SRX is they cost a little more.
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