The Quickest Cars of 2007: $25,000 to $30,000.

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Old 01-14-2007, 11:41 PM
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The Quickest Cars of 2007: $25,000 to $30,000.

Interesting;
or all the coolness of a car that goes 180 mph, that has about as much relevance to the average driver in this country as a 180-foot yacht. Accelerating from a start, on the other hand, is sort of legal in every state in the U.S., barring law-enforcement officers with an inflated sense of purpose (don't ask how we know about "Unsafe Start" statutes).

Below are the 10 quickest vehicles available with a base price between $25K and $30K, ranked in order of 0-to-60-mph time. Ties were settled first by quarter-mile time, then by which was quicker to the highest speed both cars achieved (usually 120 or 130 mph), in that order. Most cars at this price point offer basic luxury or at least decent amenities and looks in addition to speed, as buck-banger boy-racer models are thousands less, maybe having something to do with the fact that burger-flipper wages haven't budged in nine years.

There's an arms race among auto manufacturers, with weapons of displacement, compression, and boost being waged segment- and industry-wide. It's no surprise that most entries in this list are not cut from traditional sports-car cloth; of the 10 vehicles here, one is an SUV and six have four or more doors.
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Old 01-14-2007, 11:44 PM
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I don't see how the Pontiac GXP/Saturn Sky Redline can get both 3rd and 8th place.
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Manual and auto it says? Im actually surprised that auto gets a faster time than stick.
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auto are pretty fast now.
Old 01-16-2007, 11:34 AM
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350Z in 6th place?

What the hell kind of test are they doing?

Where's TOP GEAR when you need them?
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Originally Posted by Black Tire
350Z in 6th place?

What the hell kind of test are they doing?

Where's TOP GEAR when you need them?
Actually, this article is full of mis-information and it looks like they didn't even test a 07 350Z. This reads like re-gurgitated 06 information and test data and threw in a few changes like the new HP figures. The 07 Z isn't even available yet.

Case in point?

We are not alone is singing the praises of the VQ35DE all-aluminum V-6 engine
The 07 Z has the new VQ35HR engine (the same one in the new G35).

The performance figures they used are exactly the same as their 06 test results. The 07 model should be faster with ~15 more HP and ~15 more torque than the 06 model (due to the new SAE ratings on the HR). Hell, the G35 (a much heavier car) with an automatic with the HR engine runs 0-60 in 5.2-5.4 seconds.
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Originally Posted by cusdaddy
Actually, this article is full of mis-information and it looks like they didn't even test a 07 350Z. This reads like re-gurgitated 06 information and test data and threw in a few changes like the new HP figures. The 07 Z isn't even available yet.

Case in point?



The 07 Z has the new VQ35HR engine (the same one in the new G35).

The performance figures they used are exactly the same as their 06 test results. The 07 model should be faster with ~15 more HP and ~15 more torque than the 06 model (due to the new SAE ratings on the HR). Hell, the G35 (a much heavier car) with an automatic with the HR engine runs 0-60 in 5.2-5.4 seconds.
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I wonder what percentage of people buying these cars can match the times listed in that article.
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Originally Posted by JackieO
I wonder what percentage of people buying these cars can match the times listed in that article.
With Nissan VQs, published numbers are not only matchable but VERY "beatable".
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not bad.....
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I like how the nearly every other mazda car not only beats the Rx8 in terms of straight line acceleration. But also gets better gas mileage. Ms3, ms6, cx7 has potential with more boost and would be a cheap upgrade and i think mazda is planning on giving their minivan a turbo motor. HAHA.

Way to bury your flagship sports car, mazda.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
With Nissan VQs, published numbers are not only matchable but VERY "beatable".
Well that isn't what I meant, but ok.
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Originally Posted by JackieO
Well that isn't what I meant, but ok.
Your question was rhetorical in nature but, I thought to mention how readily a VQ can post at/better than as tested mag times.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Your question was rhetorical in nature but, I thought to mention how readily a VQ can post at/better than as tested mag times.
No prob. I owned two G35's and the VQ was definitely the strongest link in that chain. A great engine.
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Originally Posted by JackieO
I wonder what percentage of people buying these cars can match the times listed in that article.
I can vouch for the lgt numbers. lots have run that and better out of the box.

that list is total BS like all car magazines. I like how they can't say something nice about subaru without degrading its reliablitly which is completely bs and furthermore has nothing to do with a quick test. i got an idea...hey car and driver don't put diesel fuel in a turbo vehicle that runs on normal fuel when testing it. im so glad subaru doesn't pay those asshats lots of $$$$.

and how the hell do you put the same car on the list twice? wtf is that about???

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I guess Acura is not cheap or fast enough to be on the list.
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I like the fact that the Forester XT made the list
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I like the fact that the Forester XT made the list
yes the gearing is bad ass on that thing. it is actually faster to 60 then an lgt and possible the sti as well. not sure about the sti though as i think they can break into high 4s to 60 out of the box. obviously thats a hard launch so i;m sure in traffic the xt would own one for a bit. talk about sleeper!
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I guess Acura is not cheap or fast enough to be on the list.
tell acura to stop putting cool gadgets in their cars like bluetooth, sweet navi, and nice sound sytems. who needs that?
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Originally Posted by VXCL
I can vouch for the lgt numbers. lots have run that and better out of the box.

that list is total BS like all car magazines. I like how they can't say something nice about subaru without degrading its reliablitly which is completely bs and furthermore has nothing to do with a quick test. i got an idea...hey car and driver don't put diesel fuel in a turbo vehicle that runs on normal fuel when testing it. im so glad subaru doesn't pay those asshats lots of $$$$.

and how the hell do you put the same car on the list twice? wtf is that about???
Since I've been researching different models in search of a new one, I did a check of recalls. All I can say is: WOW! Subie definitely had a lot of Canadian recalls on a wide variety of models. I definitely wasn't expecting to find that, knowing how happy Subie owners seem to be with their cars! Surprising.
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Manual and auto it says? Im actually surprised that auto gets a faster time than stick.
For outright acceleration they are categorically superior because the torque converter multiplies torque while it is slipping (below stall RPM). A clutch doesn't have this advantage.
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I'll be another one to say that I am very surprised with the 350Z being in 6th, esp. if they claim it to be the 07 w/ the new engine and other upgrades. Does anyone else think that they really didn't test the '07 Z, but used the '06 numbers?
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Originally Posted by Street Spirit
Since I've been researching different models in search of a new one, I did a check of recalls. All I can say is: WOW! Subie definitely had a lot of Canadian recalls on a wide variety of models. I definitely wasn't expecting to find that, knowing how happy Subie owners seem to be with their cars! Surprising.
i dont know. people are pushing out serious power on these things with no probs. my 05 has not qualified for any recalls cept the ecu reflash, but i never had a stutter issue and i'm running aftermarket maps on the ecu anyways. seems like any member on the lgt board that had any tsb issues had their car taken care of by the dealer for the most part. There was def some gremlins, but nothing that would justify not buying one.
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
I like the fact that the Forester XT made the list
My wife bought her a 2004 Subaru Forester XT in Oct. 2003. According to reports her Subaru is about a half second faster than the new higher hp Turbo's. Supposedly the gearing has been changed.

Her model tests out at 5.3 to 60 with only 210hp (this test can be found on C&D as well.) I think that is right on the hp. Anyhow for years we have be having fun with those that pull up and laugh at the hood scoop on her little station wagon-all wheel drive-SUV. They make the mistake of thinking its a "for-show" hood scoop. She has been beaten (by a car lenght or so by a new Mustang V-8). But I doubt that guys do too much bragging about their 300hp V-8 sports car barely beating a chick in a 4 cylinder station wagon.
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so the forester XT is faster than their wrx? in my opinion, the wrx is what gave MASSIVE credibility to subie, and now their suv owns on it...sans sti.
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Originally Posted by rmpage
For outright acceleration they are categorically superior because the torque converter multiplies torque while it is slipping (below stall RPM). A clutch doesn't have this advantage.
Thanks Chief.
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She has been beaten (by a car lenght or so by a new Mustang V-8). But I doubt that guys do too much bragging about their 300hp V-8 sports car barely beating a chick in a 4 cylinder station wagon.
Time for mods !!
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I find its funny that an Evo got first place yet, there is no STi on that list

edit: nvm i forgot that a new STi is over 30k
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
I like the fact that the Forester XT made the list
i cant believe its faster than my 2000 tl!!!
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Originally Posted by bkzjimmy
i cant believe its faster than my 2000 tl!!!
Exc for the NSX, it is pretty much quicker than any stock Acura.
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