The Official Wagon/Avant Discussion Thread
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I will . Just shopping still
I used to love the e63 w212 wagon. But once the face lift happens the pre face lift wagons looks horrendously dated so I don't want that
I have considered a few 2014+ e63 wagon. Price is about 75-85k for lower mileage ones.
Ao so I am looking at about a 15k delta in real world prices
I used to love the e63 w212 wagon. But once the face lift happens the pre face lift wagons looks horrendously dated so I don't want that
I have considered a few 2014+ e63 wagon. Price is about 75-85k for lower mileage ones.
Ao so I am looking at about a 15k delta in real world prices
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2012wagon (09-21-2017)
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I will keep the car 5 years. I will drive it 100k miles. Thus the E wagons I looked at have been 20K miles or under, and its still about 15K over budget. As I said, I am shopping still, and hoping to take advantage of X mas/New Years deals and close it up.
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Cardinal red: there's only one brand German car that gets away with being red and that's Porsche. The Germans generally don't do reds very well at all, esp. Audi/BMW/MBZ IMO
#2645
I love a guards red 911 or a Milano red BMW. Since I can't get those beautiful red on the MB wagon, I will settle for cardinal red
#2646
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I have a huge pano roof on my 530xi and given the choice of what I know now, I would never order a car with it, it was standard equipment however. The internal roof drains got plugged up and did $3000 in damage in parts alone to the electronics. This was a problem BMW got sued for and I got a notice for based on VIN registration. It turns out I had just spent that $3K and am awaiting word on whether I'm getting some/all of that back.
Cardinal red: there's only one brand German car that gets away with being red and that's Porsche. The Germans generally don't do reds very well at all, esp. Audi/BMW/MBZ IMO
Cardinal red: there's only one brand German car that gets away with being red and that's Porsche. The Germans generally don't do reds very well at all, esp. Audi/BMW/MBZ IMO
But yah...i cant remember the last time i saw a red Audi... So you are saying we BMW drivers do not like show off? we are humble like that?
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No, I'm saying the reds produced by BMW, et. al are flat reds that don't belong on sedans or again, especially on wagons because a hot wagon is the ultimate sleeper car, why get arrest-me-red??
And yes, my notice of claim in the Federal Court action went on my office letterhead, so they know who's who in the pew.
And yes, my notice of claim in the Federal Court action went on my office letterhead, so they know who's who in the pew.
#2648
E400 is slow. Cardinal red or black won't matter as no one, much less cops notice it. Only thing sleeper about a E400 is failure of contraceptive usage on the owners part during sleep time which necessitates the car purchase in the first place.
@oonowindoo - I see plenty of A3 red sedans daily, red base q5, red S4 sedans they are all over the place. C300/cla in blood red used to be rare but like estoril blue 3 series, red c/cla are all over
of course if you go to century city BMW, you can buy lime green 7series and purple and yellow 3series wagons all day long for $75,000
@oonowindoo - I see plenty of A3 red sedans daily, red base q5, red S4 sedans they are all over the place. C300/cla in blood red used to be rare but like estoril blue 3 series, red c/cla are all over
of course if you go to century city BMW, you can buy lime green 7series and purple and yellow 3series wagons all day long for $75,000
#2649
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I only see white ones haha.
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I know white is right, but I decided to shop some colored wagons today
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I need that purple on a RS6 Avant
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The outdoor purple was nice. The inside one was nice too.. Just that 72-75K for a 3 series wagon is a bit much for my liking, when I get a larger E class wagon for 10K less, albeit in grandpa colors.
Though if I get a BMW wagon, I would want it in the lime green or bright orange like this...
Though if I get a BMW wagon, I would want it in the lime green or bright orange like this...
#2653
Anyone know when the $70K XF will be available for purchase? AWD and 380HP.
They are offering it in red outside and red inside. Firenze red exterior with Pimento interior. Will be gorgeous.
They are offering it in red outside and red inside. Firenze red exterior with Pimento interior. Will be gorgeous.
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The jag is nice for sure
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to me I just can't seem to get over the ugly rear of the E400
dealer says they will cut a better deal than previously offered
might have to just wait for jag. I can get red on red with standard pano roof
3 series is too small. Even with the cool colors and great discounts, I want something larger
dealer says they will cut a better deal than previously offered
might have to just wait for jag. I can get red on red with standard pano roof
3 series is too small. Even with the cool colors and great discounts, I want something larger
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^ Saw a black E400 4Matic on my drive in to the office this morning, it does have a bit of a bland rear end, but I wouldn't call it boring.
That Jag is though.
That Jag is though.
#2657
To each his own
i love the e400
right power
right space
right price
rear looks like Down syndrome in person
if I did don't have any options I would pull trigger
two new options at same price has my eyes wandering
i love the e400
right power
right space
right price
rear looks like Down syndrome in person
if I did don't have any options I would pull trigger
two new options at same price has my eyes wandering
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I am pretty sure the Jag should go on sale sometime this year and I would imagine that would be sometime in October or November. Doesn't really make sense to release a new car in December but I am sure it has happened.
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The outdoor purple was nice. The inside one was nice too.. Just that 72-75K for a 3 series wagon is a bit much for my liking, when I get a larger E class wagon for 10K less, albeit in grandpa colors.
Though if I get a BMW wagon, I would want it in the lime green or bright orange like this...
Though if I get a BMW wagon, I would want it in the lime green or bright orange like this...
For $5000 you can get it in any color you want.... the question is do you want to pay
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will see what they say
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A little bland, but I don't mind it
Aside from the exhaust, the AMG is about the same
The 2014 body style did have more character
#2665
2014 rear end with 2017 front end would be perfect
eh well I got few months. Want to be in new wagon by Jan 1
eh well I got few months. Want to be in new wagon by Jan 1
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WTF.. you can get a m3/4 for that much $$.
How did you manage to get 30k in options on a $45k car?
How did you manage to get 30k in options on a $45k car?
#2670
surprised you haven't heard about them as you are big into bmws
here is an article about them a while back:
https://jalopnik.com/which-one-of-yo...0-b-1792523474
there GM is a riot. Orders all kinds of crazy stuff. I mean bright yellow 7 series and lime green ones along with 75k 3 series wagons
#2671
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Oh Century West, I have heard horrible stories from their service department.
So that 3 series wagon not only has the normal options, it also has every M performance parts and the $5000 paint job....
So that 3 series wagon not only has the normal options, it also has every M performance parts and the $5000 paint job....
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If only the 3 series wagon came with a good engine : sad:
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I want a wagon one day
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as close as I could get
First time wagon thread poster, long time lurker...
With 2 growing kids and an aging 2006 Acura TL (6-speed) I have been looking to join the wagon ranks for some time. The BMWs, Audis, and Mercedes are out of my budget so I did the best I could. Monday I ordered a 2018 Buick TourX. Unfortunately Buick had to put the plastic cladding on it but its not as butched up as an Outback so I will still call it a wagon. Went with sport red and a black leather interior. No production or delivery date yet but the guess was 45+ days.
Looking forward to finally being a wagon owner!
With 2 growing kids and an aging 2006 Acura TL (6-speed) I have been looking to join the wagon ranks for some time. The BMWs, Audis, and Mercedes are out of my budget so I did the best I could. Monday I ordered a 2018 Buick TourX. Unfortunately Buick had to put the plastic cladding on it but its not as butched up as an Outback so I will still call it a wagon. Went with sport red and a black leather interior. No production or delivery date yet but the guess was 45+ days.
Looking forward to finally being a wagon owner!
#2676
Said congrats on your thread, WI_BADGER, but saying it again. My first wagon was a 1980 Subaru DL, 4wd, MT. Loved it. Have had wagons since, Subarus, Hondas, Toyotas etc. My TSx wagon is my first AT wagon , but I loved it nonetheless. I am currently shopping for a replacement.
Also glad you went with the gorgeous red, that looks beautiful. My TSX Wagon, is the first wagon I owned in a truly ugly color, and after living with this ugliness for years, won't make that mistake again on the color.
Also glad you went with the gorgeous red, that looks beautiful. My TSX Wagon, is the first wagon I owned in a truly ugly color, and after living with this ugliness for years, won't make that mistake again on the color.
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Maybe look into PTM the arches? The TourX is a nice looking wagon for sure.
#2678
In a perfect world I can remove the plastic, get the front and rear clip from Europe along with the springs from the Opel sports tourer (rather than the country tourer) and turn it into a sports wagon rather than the country tourer. I have no idea how the cladding is attached. I assume they had to paint the body panels without the cladding and then attach it so I need to look into that first. I know a GM parts manager so he will be able to help me source the parts and figure out costs.
It is never good when the mods begin before the car is even built.
It is never good when the mods begin before the car is even built.
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^ Perfect world, that'd be easier. Curious how much prep it'd take to just paint the existing arches?
#2680
I had a shop do it in 2003, on my then new Mini Cooper S. It came with black arches, and side skirts. Shop smoothed it all out, added some plastic adhesive and made it beautiful body color.