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Old 03-10-2013, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
The VW Passat TDi gets something like 50mpg on the highway.

I have been please with my Jetta through 70k miles. No issues at all.
Not a Passant fan, the styling is just too plain.

Didn't you tell me not to get a Jetta on page one?!?
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Not a matter of wrapping his head around it, more a matter of infuriating response times and terrible behavior around updates.
I spend about 5 minutes with it total and think I had it more or less figured out. Then Again I didn't pair my phone. Just did some voice commands, changed radio stations, heated seats etc. But a good point. What I loved about the Accord was the familiarity from having owned several Hondas.
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No, no, no, no, no on the Altima. What a miserable piece of crap that thing is. Garbage materials, horrendous transmission, near complete lack of sound deadening, and video game steering to boot. Just run away from that one...far, far away.
Styling alone scratches it off the list.

And if the CVT is worse than the Accords I can't even imagine how bad it could possibly be.
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Not a Passant fan, the styling is just too plain.

Didn't you tell me not to get a Jetta on page one?!?
The new Jetta is not the same car as mine. The new Jetta has a solid axle. Plus the 2.5L five cylinder sucks.

But I like the understated styling of the Passat in some colors.

But if Ford offered a diesel, I would get the Fusion without a second thought.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
The new Jetta is not the same car as mine. The new Jetta has a solid axle. Plus the 2.5L five cylinder sucks.

But I like the understated styling of the Passat in some colors.

But if Ford offered a diesel, I would get the Fusion without a second thought.
The GLI has an idependant rear and better interior than regular Jetta's. think of it as a GTI sedan. A 'regular' Jetta with the solid rear axle and the 2.5 was never a consideration.
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The GLI has an idependant rear and better interior than regular Jetta's. think of it as a GTI sedan. A 'regular' Jetta with the solid rear axle and the 2.5 was never a consideration.
It is better than the regular Jetta but I had heard not as good as the GTI.

I was thinking you might have been looking at the TDi.
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The Mazda honestly blew me away.
Maybe there is a reason for that.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...g/viewall.html

3. Camry
2. Accord
1. Mazda6

I am a bit surprised that the 6 auto outperformed the Accord CVT.

Mazda6 / Accord
0-30mph 2.5 / 2.9
0-60mph 7.4 / 7.6
mpg 32.6 / 30.9

I owned both (626 and Accord) in the past.

I didn't like the 2009 and its stupid smiling theme. I can't understand the dash's central section of the Accord 2013 oriented toward the passenger; ugly if you ask.

Mazda6 for me. But I also like the GLI, just not 29K$C for a 2012.
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Came in here to see dom posting pics of the new Fusion.....I guess I showed up too early.
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Came in here to see dom posting pics of the new Fusion.....I guess I showed up too early.
Too confused to make a decision and still need to get out and drive a M6 and Diesel Jetta.
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What about a Subaru Impreza Hatch. And if your wife knows how to drive stick, get the WRX 5-door. My vote would be for a wagon, but I'm biased.
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Wife does not drive a stick. I wish.
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Wife does not drive a stick. I wish.
Well there is always the standard Impreza 5-door which does come in an auto (CVT). Doesn't look as good as the WRX, but still a good car IMO.

http://www.subaru.com/vehicles/impreza/index.html
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Well there is always the standard Impreza 5-door which does come in an auto (CVT). Doesn't look as good as the WRX, but still a good car IMO.

http://www.subaru.com/vehicles/impreza/index.html
Or the XV Crosstrek, would deal with snow a little better with the extra ground clearance.

Puts you into a CVT though. Haven't driven one personally to see how it is.
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No thanks to anything with a CVT. If Honda's is best in the business than I want absolutely nothing to do with anyone else's.

Other than the old Legacy, nothing from Subaru really peaks my interest. The new Legacy is and the new Impreza just meh. Need something bigger than a Impreza as well I think.

I think its going to come down to the new Fusion or Accord. But I have issues with them both. Not sure I can trust the Fusion, (1st year build, turbo, questionable MPG) and the new Accord V6 is simply too expensive, not to mention also a 1st year build.

Love an A4 but the wife is lukewarm on a getting a used car that's more than a couple of years old. I'd have to go into a 2010 A4 to meet budget.

If the CVT in the Accord was better than I thought it would be I'd likely be in a Sport right now without question.

My Rabbit is starting to look better and better.
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Originally Posted by dom
Too confused to make a decision and still need to get out and drive a M6 and Diesel Jetta.

I'd call this a "no brainer" decision.


Get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S

I'd call this a "no brainer" decision.


Get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by dom
Too confused to make a decision and still need to get out and drive a Mazda 6 and Diesel Jetta.


Otherwise, yeah, easy decision!
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I'm looking at a few of the same cars and between your choices, if you're not going to spring for the V-6 Accord, then I'd go with the 2014 Mazda 6. Test drove both and the 6 handles very well, rides nice and is quite a looker. The Honda is a nice choice as well and they definitely improved it quite a bit over the previous.

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Styling alone scratches it off the list.

And if the CVT is worse than the Accords I can't even imagine how bad it could possibly be.
I'm not too fond of the styling on either the Accord or the Altima although both are better than the previous models. If you made me pick, I think I like the Altima styling better. Just my opinion.

I recently test drove both the Accord and the Altima. The CVT in the Altima is definitely worse. I actually thought the CVT in the Accord was fine and not noticeable. The CVT in the Altima on the other hand... well, I could feel it doing strange things. Isn't half the point of a CVT that you won't notice transmission shifting?

Here's my thread on my car search in case it is useful to you since I'm looking at similar sorts of vehicles:
https://acurazine.com/forums/car-talk-5/suggestions-please-%2430k-replacement-used-new-3g-tl-824556/

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^ It's telling that's you're still in your TL. Keep me posted on the search.
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Get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I told you I need a Sedan!
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I told you I need a Sedan!
M6 Gran Coupe
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^ It's telling that's you're still in your TL. Keep me posted on the search.
My TL has spoiled me and left me with very high expectations!
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Haven't test driven anything yet and the budget is about $30-32K CAD on the road and it has to be an AT. These are my preliminary choices.
Congrats on the new addition and good luck with zone defensive coverage.

Spot price in Motown for a 2013 Honda Accord EX-L V-6 4dr Sedan w/6-Spd Automatic is $28,142 USD (carsdirect). Take advantage of your rich currency and lock in a forward contract, oh say nine months from now, for a pair on the glass at ACC with your second favorite team.

I could be convinced to fire up the Art Vandalay Import/Export LLC for one trade.
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M6 Gran Coupe
Ding! Ding!!
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Does anyone else think a sticky for new car buying makes sense? Or at least worth considering?
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I could be convinced to fire up the Art Vandalay Import/Export LLC for one trade.
VANDALAY INDUSTRIES!!!!!
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Wife does not drive a stick. I wish.
Just buy stick, and tell her that she will learn. My dad did that with my mom many moons ago.
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Congrats on the new boy.

I voted for the Accord Sport CVT. That drivetrain is simply awesome and I loved it when I test drove it. I did not try the V6 with the CVT, that's not how I'd want an Accord but that's just me.

Haven't tried the new Mazda 6, but would love to as I keep hearing about what a driver's car that is.

Good luck, dom!
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Congrats on the new boy.

I voted for the Accord Sport CVT. That drivetrain is simply awesome and I loved it when I test drove it. I did not try the V6 with the CVT, that's not how I'd want an Accord but that's just me.

Haven't tried the new Mazda 6, but would love to as I keep hearing about what a driver's car that is.

Good luck, dom!
Thanks. Accord V6 actually still has a traditional 6AT, not the CVT.
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
Congrats on the new addition and good luck with zone defensive coverage.

Spot price in Motown for a 2013 Honda Accord EX-L V-6 4dr Sedan w/6-Spd Automatic is $28,142 USD (carsdirect). Take advantage of your rich currency and lock in a forward contract, oh say nine months from now, for a pair on the glass at ACC with your second favorite team.

I could be convinced to fire up the Art Vandalay Import/Export LLC for one trade.
Thanks but I think the car would be cheaper than those tickets
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Any update on this? Get to try out the 6 yet?
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Nope. Just haven't had a chance to get out at all the last couple of weeks. The Mazda is next up for sure but I can't see myself settling for I4 after driving the Accord. We'll see but in all likely hood its looking like I'm going to hang onto the Rabbit for the time being. The Diesel 6 may be the answer as well so holding off until later this year or early next may make more sense. Still very undecided.
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So not that anyone cares but I'm holding onto the Rabbit. I just can't decide. I'm desperately trying to like the new Accord but after 3 test drives, the CVT/4 cylinder combo is something I just can't stand.

I came very close to pulling the trigger on the Fusion SE with the 2.0L but backed out mostly because I don't have a lot of confidence in the reliability of Ecoboost nor the MPG ratings.

Got some very aggressive deals on both a Jetta or Passat but again, I don't love the cars. Considering I plan on keeping the car for awhile I want something that I love and that should be reliable for many years. Accord V6 hits the marks but I can't justify 38K out the door.

Hopefully something pops up within the next year. I'll be keeping a close eye on the used market for an Accord V6.
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You just say f it and get the camaro...you LOVE those
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You just say f it and get the camaro...you LOVE those
I wish
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Dom, the ecoboost has been flawless for me in my first 2500 miles. Great, smooth engine.
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I guess you never got around to testing a Mazda6? It's on my short-list, but I haven't had a chance to go drive one yet. Been getting some great reviews.
The diesel might be worth waiting for, something like 60% more torque over the gas engine, not sure one the %$ increase though.
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So not that anyone cares but I'm holding onto the Rabbit. I just can't decide. I'm desperately trying to like the new Accord but after 3 test drives, the CVT/4 cylinder combo is something I just can't stand.

I came very close to pulling the trigger on the Fusion SE with the 2.0L but backed out mostly because I don't have a lot of confidence in the reliability of Ecoboost nor the MPG ratings.

Got some very aggressive deals on both a Jetta or Passat but again, I don't love the cars. Considering I plan on keeping the car for awhile I want something that I love and that should be reliable for many years. Accord V6 hits the marks but I can't justify 38K out the door.

Hopefully something pops up within the next year. I'll be keeping a close eye on the used market for an Accord V6.
Should've bought the 3er. :wink:
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I came very close to pulling the trigger on the Fusion SE with the 2.0L but backed out mostly because I don't have a lot of confidence in the reliability of Ecoboost nor the MPG ratings.
So far in my experience the 2.0L EcoBoost has been very reliable and, with my foot going into the turbo quite often, I'm surprised how great my gas mileage has been. I'm averaging 26.6 MPG in about 75% city driving. Best tank so far has been 28.2, and I have yet to take her on an extended highway cruise.

And I'd imagine you'd see better numbers in the Fusion.
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So not that anyone cares but I'm holding onto the Rabbit. I just can't decide. I'm desperately trying to like the new Accord but after 3 test drives, the CVT/4 cylinder combo is something I just can't stand.

I came very close to pulling the trigger on the Fusion SE with the 2.0L but backed out mostly because I don't have a lot of confidence in the reliability of Ecoboost nor the MPG ratings.

Got some very aggressive deals on both a Jetta or Passat but again, I don't love the cars. Considering I plan on keeping the car for awhile I want something that I love and that should be reliable for many years. Accord V6 hits the marks but I can't justify 38K out the door.

Hopefully something pops up within the next year. I'll be keeping a close eye on the used market for an Accord V6.
I would go with the GLI all day. I drove one before I got my Golf R and it drives soo nice. Quiet, comfy, enough power to have a little fun, nice clutch/shifter. The Autobahn edition with the nav/stereo is super nice. The stereo is killer btw. The car is just super nice has a great feel, almost feels like my Audi. Honestly for the money I honestly think it can not be beat.


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