cdrink80

What u guys know about it^^^, mod potential????

BlueCLS6

It uses a Garrett GT25R Ball-Bearing Turbo
So yes I'm sure you can upgrade it...

liloj

you would need to mod it.....it only runs a 15.8-9...thats kinda slow for a turbo motor....imo

mattg

throw in a boost controller and it will run 14.0


they run very low 15's stock.

liloj

are you sure..every stat ive seen has never been below a 15.85 1/4

mattg

http://www.car-stats.com/stats/shows...tsgivenid.aspx

liloj

thank you a 15.1 isnt bad

gto2050

Hey Matt.... cool site. Thanks for the heads up.

SebringS2k

the car has stock internals though, I don't think it can handle much more boost without change

CLean

Here is a quote from the Protege forum.

"I went to Morosso race speedway in Florida and my best time in my 03 Mazdaspeed was 14.8 at like 95.5 mph. I was running 10 psi boost"

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/index.php?

or

http://www.protegeclub.com/forum/index.php

Hope it helps you out!

F23A4

That's what I've read also; it's pretty much already maxed out on the stock internals. That motor is DEF no SR20DE, in terms of its internal build.

cdrink80

u think it would be a fun car, or not really, what would u take that or a WRX i have heard bad things about wrx cluthes

ga2000

my bro has a spec v he never ran a mazdaspeed with his spec v but as far as i know they run about the same, stock for stock it has alittle more top end though. both mid to low 15s avg driver...

F23A4

Dont get me wrong. I understand that the MP handles almost as well as the DC2 Type R. Reportedly, both Mazda and Nissan used the DC2 ITR as a model for the MP and Spec V, respectively.

IMO, that spells mad fun as far as I'm concerned.

But, if you're looking to mod but have a limited budget then, go with the WRX instead. There's already a sizeable aftermarket there.

Seeing as the MP's motor has all the boost it can take (per Mazda), you'll need to do some internal engine work in order to crank up the boost, getting it to run low 14s or less. But, if you do go MP, you may want to change that IC; it's extremely inefficient.

Peace.

cdrink80

thansk for the info

SportShiftTypeS

The interior is really cool.

Chaptorial

That site is older then the internet.

Chaptorial

Do they make the Protege anymore? Can't find it on the Mazda site.

liquid_x

they replaced it with the 3

Water-S

I know I'm going to get flamed for this but I'll give you my honest opinion.
Personally I hate turbos. I know there was tons of wicked cars built with turbos(Supra TT, WRX sti, Evo, plenty of others)
but no matter how good of turbo setup it is you can have the "spool speed" of a good supercharger or higher compression engine.

what i mean by this. often when you "punch" a turboed motor(like a WRX Sti) it feels like it has no balls out of the hole. you have to wait for the turbo to spool. with a supercharger it's with you from a idle to wide open. same with a higher compression motor.

this is one of the main reasons why I won't own a WRX sti, Evo or most Audis

I'd personally rather have a supercharger.

1SICKLEX

It is a great subcompact car. But I'd not expect it to be a giant killer.

F23A4

U shouldnt be flamed for expressing your opinion.

Turbo lag varies greatly by application; compare a Regal GNX (large turbo on 3.8L V6) and an Eagle Talon TSi (small turbo on 2.0L I4) and you'll see a difference. As far as current production cars: cars like the Jetta 1.8T hit maximum torque @1950rpm; that's pretty instantaneous.

As far as superchargers go, its important to realize that they do cost HP before giving more HP in return. (read: crankshaft driven) And they normally dont have the topend that turbo cars have, depending on tranny gearing.

Turbochargers on the otherhand, draw from exhaust gas pressures (aka waste energy); then you can go into turbo sizes, which has a direct correlation with turbo lag.

So IMO, it depends on the type of acceleration you want.

In my case, I have a 2002 Maxima with its VQ35DE motor; upon tapping the throttle, the power to the wheels is INSTANTANEOUS!!! I like it most times; other times I dont like it (i.e.: wet road surfaces). But my old 89 Colt GT Turbo, had NO problem ripping 'out of the hole' so to speak.

$.02

allmotor_2000

You can have relatively quick 'spool' with a somewhat high-compression motor - I believe some Audi's run 9.5:1 and 14psi.

A turbocharged CL-S will have low-end grunt and gobs of mid-range and high-end power

DISRUPTV

i'd rather get the new turbo miata and get the hardtop cover for it


that thing is sooo sick!

Water-S

but will the motor hold up with a 10 or 11 to 1 compression ratio.

because you ever think about it a new S2000 is like 11 to 1 ratio(i might be wrong so sorry). but I'd be SCARED (big time if it was brand new under warrenty) to put a big turbo on it with that kind of compression.

I love what my one buddy says about about NOS:
"NOS having sex with a hot chick with STDs you wanna hit it but your afraid what might happen afterwards. "

bigman

get your hands on an srt-4 and run 12's on the stock internals. Mopar has been running around 500 horses on a stock motor with upgraded intercooler and turbo, wastegate and other bolt-ons for around a year now on their rally car.

F23A4

@ $26G, the price is right! But I'd still get a used S2K instead, which is still clearly faster.

Water-S

although It's about 10k more than a S2K I'd still rather save up for a 3 liter Z4.
the styling to me is bolder and more exciting than the S2K. all Honda products are going to the "cat eye" headlights. plus the Z4 runs even with the S2K in everything (well except price ) but that SMG tranny is pure SWEEEEEEEEEETNESS

F23A4

You another buddy of mine has a Z4 and DANG!!! That thing is much nicer than the S2K and has a lot of cajones. (He actually installed a rear view camera in it. )

BTW: It sounds like Audi's DSG (TT) is better than BMW's SMG.

All this talk about fun cars is making me really sick of my Maxima; thanks guys!!

G

Back to the Mazdaspeed- I actually owned a Mazda MP3, which was the basis for the Mazdaspeed. It was an awesome car-not enough power at all, but it would go around corners like nothing else. The Mazdaspeed was supposed to be the best of both worlds-power and handling. However, as it was pointed out before-it can't take much more power at all-I know of many people who have blown their engines allready. The Jap spec version of the MP3's motor has variable valve timing-giving it around 170 hp-which is the same amount as the Mazdaspeed's.

If you can find a Mazdaspeed-it would be about 8-10g's less than a WRX-so, it might be worth taking a look at.

cusdaddy

At Autocross last season, one of the instructors took me for a ride in his Mazdaspeed Protege (orange color). He only had upgraded tires, but the car was damn good on the course. It didn't have a ton of power, but it handled like it was on rails. The interior was also very nice for it's price too. Overall, definitely a nice car.