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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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HIR bulbs

Does anyone here have or used HIR bulbs for your headlights? I am thinking about getting these to replace my hyper white StreetGlow Optx. Is there a difference in color between the two? I also cant find any pics of the HIR bulbs installed on others cars. If anyone has pics please post them. I also heard the osram silverstars are nice. But i heard these dont last very long. I love HIDs but i cant afford them right now.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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Osram (not Sylvania, there is a difference) Silverstars last as long as any other bulb and the output is much better than OEM.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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Here some useful info from eBay:
The only thing I'd recommend doing to improve nighttime visibility with a halogen system is to get higher-efficiency bulbs such as Osram Silverstar (NOT Sylvania Silverstar), Sylvania Xtravision, Wagner BriteLite, and especially GE Nighthawk bulbs. These bulbs have clear glass and do not filter out any light, they simply have a more efficient filament that is more lumenous. The downside is that they probably won't last quite as long and they cost more (around $35-40 for a pair). For reference, a standard H3 halogen bulb puts out 1000 lumens on the low beam. a GE Nighthawk bulb puts out approximately 1150 lumens with the same power consumption. Not a huge increase, but still significant.

One other high-efficiency bulb that is difficult to find is something called "HIR" - halogen infrared reflecting.
I've only seen these in 9005 and 9006 guises, and only a couple of times on eBay. You might be able to find them on Google. They work by reflecting the invisible infrared rays that all halogen bulbs produce back into the filament, making it burn brighter than a regular bulb. The seller claimed a huge improvement to lumenous properties with basically zero compromises. I have not personally tried these but I did find a review a while ago that favorably compared them to other non-HIR bulbs. The specs on them say that they produce almost 100% more light than a standard halogen! These are probably worth a shot, however they are pretty expensive for halogen bulbs ($60 for a pair).

It's easy to fall into the "Xenon" bulb trap because even reputable manufacturers make them. The Sylvania Silverstar is an example and is a ripoff (not only are they expensive, they put out less light than a standard halogen and also they only last for 150 hours instead of the standard 1000). Wagner TrueVision, LazerBlue, PIAA's stuff, and CoolBlue are all similar and should be avoided, unless having blue headlights and trying to look cool is worth driving blind at night.

So, in summary, here is some data to think about:

Standard 9006 halogen (low beam): 1000 lumens, 800 hour rated life $6
Sylvania 9006 Xtravision (low beam): 1060 lumens, 300 hour rated life $10
GE 9006 Nighthawk (low beam): 1150 lumens, 250 hour rated life $14
Toshiba HIR 9006 (low beam): 1800 lumens, 800 hour rated life $27
Sylvania 9006 Silverstar (low beam): 910 lumens, 150 hour rated life $20

http://reviews.ebay.com/quot-Xenon-q...:-1:LISTINGS:6
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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On ebay u could get an hid kit for less than $150 shipped
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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2 of my boys got those cheap hid kits from ebay and had them for over a year no problem
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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Read this! They have comparisons and pics that say HIR bulbs are far better than other bulbs.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=954736
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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i have been researching the HIR bulbs. I also emailed daniel stern from danielsternlighting.com, he said these are the best halogens made. The cool blue, hyperwhite bulbs, etc, are junk. I also found out HIR bulbs are sold by john deere for much cheaper(depending where you live). From John Deere they are $9.99 a bulb for me. I going to order them tommorow. Daniel Stern said that cheap HID retrokits are junk too.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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BTW^^^ the John Deere part # is AH211917. you have to create an account though john deeres parts website before you can buy.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 11:53 PM
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hmm...let us know how those go. I'm curious about those for my 95 civic

btw, i just did a search on their website for that part # and it didn't mention anything about bulb sizes.

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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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the bulb sizes are confusing. They are classified by 9011 for the high beams, and 9012 for the low beams. The 9011 bulbs will fit 9005 style. The 9012 will fit the 9006 style. The 9012 on john deeres site also calls them HIR2. With the HIR bulbs the center tab that is too large to fit. There is a white marking on the tab where you have to trim the plastic. Its very easy and takes less then 5 min with a file, or large nailclippers.

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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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so did you order a pair from the john deere website to be shipped? and how do you know those numbers correspond to the sizing you stated? as in 9012 = hir2

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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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im ordering them today. If you go to www.hirheadlights.com it will explain how they fit your 9005 or 9006 units. I found out about how you can purchase these bulbs from john deere from ih8mud.com forums.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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I have a Mazda3 that takes H7 bulbs ... WTF ... The high-beams are 9006s IIRC ... Seriously what the hell is that about? Any ideas?
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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Hmmm..HIR seems interesting
On the subject of these brighter Halogens I see on he road now. Someone got to put a stop to these. All these non-HID cars having the brigher Halogens are burning a hole in my eye.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I have a Mazda3 that takes H7 bulbs ... WTF ... The high-beams are 9006s IIRC ... Seriously what the hell is that about? Any ideas?
The HIR 9012 im pretty sure will fit your high beams if they are 9006. What does the IIRC mean though?
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