Help me pick a manual hatchback
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Help me pick a manual hatchback
Hey guys...been doing the whole Hertz on demand thing on the weekends, and its starting to add up. Im considering pulling the trigger on a car in Manhattan and street parking it. I already gathered insurance quotes, and it isnt nearly as bad as I anticipated ($100/mo for any Mini).
Dont want to buy. Dont have to love the thing to the point that ill cave and spend $500/mo to lot it.
So what are your thoughts? Manual only, $300 at zero down. Could be a civic too, at $200/mo range. I am finding out that Mini leases are REALLY poor. Looking for a small frame car with good utility. This will also be used as a dog hauler, as we are dying to adopt, and want/need a car to do so.
Mini Cooper and Cooper S
Mini Paceman S
Mini Countryman S
Leftover 2013 C30 (discontinued 2014)
Volvo T5 (found a 319/mo lease, and could get in manual possibly)
Honda Fit??
Mazda3??
Let's please not turn this into a NYC thing for theft, buy vs lease, cost of parking, etc. etc. just looking for reccs.
Thanks!
Dont want to buy. Dont have to love the thing to the point that ill cave and spend $500/mo to lot it.
So what are your thoughts? Manual only, $300 at zero down. Could be a civic too, at $200/mo range. I am finding out that Mini leases are REALLY poor. Looking for a small frame car with good utility. This will also be used as a dog hauler, as we are dying to adopt, and want/need a car to do so.
Mini Cooper and Cooper S
Mini Paceman S
Mini Countryman S
Leftover 2013 C30 (discontinued 2014)
Volvo T5 (found a 319/mo lease, and could get in manual possibly)
Honda Fit??
Mazda3??
Let's please not turn this into a NYC thing for theft, buy vs lease, cost of parking, etc. etc. just looking for reccs.
Thanks!
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Leasing a car and parking it on the street in NYC for its life...why don't you just kick yourself in the nuts and throw your wallet in the trash instead.
Go buy a used beater car...or look in to ZIPcar.
Go buy a used beater car...or look in to ZIPcar.
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Im using hertz on demand..which is similar (better IMO) than zip. Im averaging $100/weekend, and i use it probably 3 weekends/mo. additionally, im limited to hourly use. need a car for monthly weekend trips to boston...
im on board with leasing, just trying to find the best option. already sold a beater a year ago, and have made the decision to not go that route. i live in UES in a quiet neighborhood, so not worried too much with basic bumper badgers. hell, my coworker just leased an S4 and street parks it in a similar neighborhood.
...would like mazda 3, but cannot stand the looks, at all. would love an A3, but they are discontinued.
how are the honda options?
im on board with leasing, just trying to find the best option. already sold a beater a year ago, and have made the decision to not go that route. i live in UES in a quiet neighborhood, so not worried too much with basic bumper badgers. hell, my coworker just leased an S4 and street parks it in a similar neighborhood.
...would like mazda 3, but cannot stand the looks, at all. would love an A3, but they are discontinued.
how are the honda options?
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For your situation, a 5MT Fit Sport would be PERFECT.
And cheap to buy. I know you said you don't want to, but I have to say it.
Lots of room for such a little car, no one wants to steal it, good looking, awesome shifter, great gas mileage.
Lease prices are currently reasonable, too, at least here in Cleveland.
And cheap to buy. I know you said you don't want to, but I have to say it.
Lots of room for such a little car, no one wants to steal it, good looking, awesome shifter, great gas mileage.
Lease prices are currently reasonable, too, at least here in Cleveland.
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For your situation, a 5MT Fit Sport would be PERFECT.
And cheap to buy. I know you said you don't want to, but I have to say it.
Lots of room for such a little car, no one wants to steal it, good looking, awesome shifter, great gas mileage.
Lease prices are currently reasonable, too, at least here in Cleveland.
And cheap to buy. I know you said you don't want to, but I have to say it.
Lots of room for such a little car, no one wants to steal it, good looking, awesome shifter, great gas mileage.
Lease prices are currently reasonable, too, at least here in Cleveland.
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no sunroof, damnit.
manual + sunroof apparently cannot be had on Fit, versa, mazda 3, crosstek, tiguan, you name it...only really some germans
think its boiled down to MINIs and the Honda Fit.
manual + sunroof apparently cannot be had on Fit, versa, mazda 3, crosstek, tiguan, you name it...only really some germans
think its boiled down to MINIs and the Honda Fit.
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Haven't driven one, but my first though was a '14 Mazda3 6MT. Though I've heard the 2.0 (no 2.5 available with the 6MT yet) is a little down on power.
Probably fine in town, I'm sure. When I drove an auto CX-5 with the 2.0, it only really felt lacking when getting on the highway.
Probably fine in town, I'm sure. When I drove an auto CX-5 with the 2.0, it only really felt lacking when getting on the highway.
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Speed 3 for sure is my vote. Or maybe Focus ST? I like the new Mazda 3's but the hatchback, sans the grill, is a step back in my opinion in that body style and while the 2.5s is fun, there's no manual. At my local dealers they're whoring out the old 13's, even the Speed's so I'm sure you could get a lot off of the MSRP price.
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Totally forgot about the Fiesta ST. Can definitely get a manual and sunroof on that car.
Damn, Ford is leasing the ST for $200/mo for 24 months with 10% and the usuals ... At least in my area.
That might even be worth me looking at for a second car ...
Damn, Ford is leasing the ST for $200/mo for 24 months with 10% and the usuals ... At least in my area.
That might even be worth me looking at for a second car ...
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Well....there IS a supercharger available for the Fit.
And springs.....
Mod that puppy up!
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http://www.ford.com/cars/focus/trim/st5door/
no joke, this is one of the worst leases i have seen...rolling in the down payment is $350/mo, $0 down for a $23,625 Ford ST. You could negotiate a newly modeled IS250 December to remember for $350, $0 down, and that's a $38,xxx vehicle.
no joke, this is one of the worst leases i have seen...rolling in the down payment is $350/mo, $0 down for a $23,625 Ford ST. You could negotiate a newly modeled IS250 December to remember for $350, $0 down, and that's a $38,xxx vehicle.
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http://www.ford.com/cars/focus/trim/st5door/
no joke, this is one of the worst leases i have seen...rolling in the down payment is $350/mo, $0 down for a $23,625 Ford ST. You could negotiate a newly modeled IS250 December to remember for $350, $0 down, and that's a $38,xxx vehicle.
no joke, this is one of the worst leases i have seen...rolling in the down payment is $350/mo, $0 down for a $23,625 Ford ST. You could negotiate a newly modeled IS250 December to remember for $350, $0 down, and that's a $38,xxx vehicle.
The Fiesta ST, on the other hand, is $200/mo according to their website.
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187/mos....3k down...yuck
though the fiesta ST has been intriguing me for a couple months now.
though the fiesta ST has been intriguing me for a couple months now.
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A HA
Veloster Turbo is real cheap and one premium package covers everything youd want, including leather pinstripe seats, navi, and pano roof. 0-60 in 6.8. also is offered in matte grey paint for no charge...sure it leases better than a mini cooper s.
Veloster Turbo is real cheap and one premium package covers everything youd want, including leather pinstripe seats, navi, and pano roof. 0-60 in 6.8. also is offered in matte grey paint for no charge...sure it leases better than a mini cooper s.
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Veloster, 500, or Fiesta in that order.
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my leasing broker's company car is EXACTLY what im looking for. will be pulling the trigger on this shortly, unless for whatever reason, i back out of deciding to get a car.
2013 cooper s manual - $325/mo, 1 year old, 3k miles, with 24 months and 27k miles remaining. spotless. only ~$500 to get into it.
xenon, black housing, black wheels, panoramic roof, armrest, etc etc. new from dealership would be mid 400s with 3k upfront.
what do you guys think?? seems like a no brainer.
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Leasing a used car?
dead brainer
I lease a loaded toyota highlander SE...for $330 a month all in....I put nothing down, just turned in a Prius a year early (had no equity in it...dealer jus knew they would be able to flip it)
dead brainer
I lease a loaded toyota highlander SE...for $330 a month all in....I put nothing down, just turned in a Prius a year early (had no equity in it...dealer jus knew they would be able to flip it)
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mini is $325/mo, insurance is a couple ticks under $100/mo. parking is free with 2x weekly spot change.
i think the enjoyment of a manual cooper s is >>> the 2x weekly spot change and additional $150-200/mo expense. plus it puts me in a position to adopt a dog, which is priceless.
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It's your money but it sounds like this is the way you want to go.
The only thing I can think of regarding Sarlaac's example is that in NYC it may not be as cheap to lease.
But if he's right, you might be paying too much.
The only thing I can think of regarding Sarlaac's example is that in NYC it may not be as cheap to lease.
But if he's right, you might be paying too much.
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for sure. i could get another lexus IS250 for 349/mo with possibly nothing down after negotiation...there are many cars i could get for ~325/mo nothing down...but are they what im looking for? probably not.
325/mo for a mini doesnt sound great...but talk to some mini dealers, add some options, and its pretty astonishing how much it costs to lease a new one.
cost for fun, i suppose.
325/mo for a mini doesnt sound great...but talk to some mini dealers, add some options, and its pretty astonishing how much it costs to lease a new one.
cost for fun, i suppose.
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Okay then just do it.
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Buy my wife's CR-Z, it's a manual
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That wasn't long...now what are you getting?
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Ooh. Then OP can get that Mini and trade with Ken's CRZ.
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didnt want to bug him until i am fully onboard with the idea of street parking...all set with the idea of this exact model car though.
going to test out the street parking with a friends car for a few days. or scope out the area for a week or two.
one side street sweepers no parking for 90 min window 11am-12:30pm (Mon/Weds), and the other side is the same time (Thurs/Fri). We both would not be home for lunch to switch sides. We are usually out for work at 8 and back at 10 or 11. Which means we would need to switch sides at 10/11pm at night, two or three times a week. nobody is moving spots at the time, so you are stuck cherry picking spots that others cant fit into. hence the MINI. i would also be the designator spot switcher, cuz she could barely drive, let alone drive. this is would be my toy.
garages go for 1,200 (central park east) to 800/mo (UES) to 500/mo (Yorkville) to 300/mo (open air in harlem). and there are waiting lists for all of them. i would never consider any of those options. so it all comes down to street parking.
going to test out the street parking with a friends car for a few days. or scope out the area for a week or two.
one side street sweepers no parking for 90 min window 11am-12:30pm (Mon/Weds), and the other side is the same time (Thurs/Fri). We both would not be home for lunch to switch sides. We are usually out for work at 8 and back at 10 or 11. Which means we would need to switch sides at 10/11pm at night, two or three times a week. nobody is moving spots at the time, so you are stuck cherry picking spots that others cant fit into. hence the MINI. i would also be the designator spot switcher, cuz she could barely drive, let alone drive. this is would be my toy.
garages go for 1,200 (central park east) to 800/mo (UES) to 500/mo (Yorkville) to 300/mo (open air in harlem). and there are waiting lists for all of them. i would never consider any of those options. so it all comes down to street parking.
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I would never want to live in NYC with a car.
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