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Old 07-21-2023, 03:28 PM
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Shames it's in black though. That's a deal killer for me.
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Old 07-21-2023, 03:30 PM
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It's Imperial Blue.........
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You might need your monitor calibrated. Or new glasses.
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Old 07-21-2023, 03:34 PM
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It was the last photo of the window sticker saying color: black
Looking again, I see that it's a dark blue, which I now love.
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Old 07-21-2023, 03:43 PM
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That being said, black is a pretty classic color for a BMW.

<---- on my 3rd black BMW
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Originally Posted by srika
It's Imperial Blue.........
Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2

It was the last photo of the window sticker saying color: black
Looking again, I see that it's a dark blue, which I now love.
Same color as my M5.
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Old 07-23-2023, 08:09 PM
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Man, Ford Broncos are crazy expensive. The wife has always wanted something like a Wrangler or modern Bronco but $50K is nutso.
Old 07-24-2023, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by srika
That being said, black is a pretty classic color for a BMW.

<---- on my 3rd black BMW
​​​​​​​ I could see a black E30 or E39, but otherwise, pass.
Old 07-24-2023, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Man, Ford Broncos are crazy expensive. The wife has always wanted something like a Wrangler or modern Bronco but $50K is nutso.
My wife really wanted a Bronco when we were looking at replacing her Flex.
She had it in her head that it would be better than the Wrangler we test drove a few years ago.
She ended up with an Expedition Max

A Wrangler was on the shortlist when I replaced the Malibu, just couldn't justify the cost, compared to the Explorer.
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And the hilarious part is that they don't even depreciate much so buying a lightly used one is out of the question too.

I will say that they are worth the hype though and I will own a Wrangler again someday.
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Old 07-24-2023, 10:45 AM
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Yeah, I was looking pre-owned to keep in budget. Could maybe have gotten a base Sport JLU for what I got the Explorer for
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
My wife really wanted a Bronco when we were looking at replacing her Flex.
She had it in her head that it would be better than the Wrangler we test drove a few years ago.
She ended up with an Expedition Max

A Wrangler was on the shortlist when I replaced the Malibu, just couldn't justify the cost, compared to the Explorer.
My neighbor had one, that thing is a bus! Delayed Congrats to you both on the new vehicle!
wrangler pricing is a strange thing to me, same neighbor with the expedition Max, his son had 2 wranglers (at different times) and we were talking prices, unbelievable. Here in central Florida they are everywhere too.
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Another RORO fire
Suspected EV battery origin

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/50...ip-dutch-coast


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Yuck, that’s not good!
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Serious question: Why are the cars I want always across the country in California at better prices than I can get back here in the Mid-Atlantic?
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Old 08-07-2023, 06:38 AM
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Check airfare.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Check airfare.
I would probably ship it back but it’s definitely on the agenda if I find the right car. Just have some concerns about flying all the way there to figure out they lied about the car somehow.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I would probably ship it back but it’s definitely on the agenda if I find the right car. Just have some concerns about flying all the way there to figure out they lied about the car somehow.
Where is the car and what is it? Find someone local to go check it out. If it's in a major metro area I'm guessing someone on this forum lives close by and might be able to help you out. If not, have a third party inspect it for a fee.

If it checks out, fly out and drive it home. I've done it twice now and will definitely do it again, it's a ton of fun and some great memories.
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Old 08-15-2023, 02:34 PM
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Looks like I’m getting a 2023 Ioniq 6 SEL AWD on a one-pay for about $9200 for a 24 month lease. About $383 a month effective. Assuming the dealer doesn’t pull anything screwy of course. Getting $5K off the car plus the $7500 EV incentive and a Hyundai loyalty incentive.

Thanks all for the advice and ideas. This car is so cheap on a one-pay I couldn’t turn it down.
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Old 08-15-2023, 02:51 PM
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I didn't think Hyundai qualified for the EV incentive.

But congrats! The Hyundai EVs look great. I've been seeing a ton of them on the road.
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Old 08-15-2023, 02:56 PM
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Looking forward to hearing your review on it.
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Old 08-15-2023, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
I didn't think Hyundai qualified for the EV incentive.

But congrats! The Hyundai EVs look great. I've been seeing a ton of them on the road.
The limits to the incentive don't apply to commercial purchases so you can get it on anything if it's a commercial one...like a lease is since the car is bought by a commercial entity. The lender just needs to be willing to pass those savings along to you.
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The credit pass through is the only way I would have done this to be honest. Looking forward to getting an EV. Probably going to need some electric work on the house.

Anyone know if you can pull a new run from the utility meter to a garage with a new mini panel just for the 40A circuit? Electrician told me my existing panel is full and I don’t want to drop $10K for L2 charging.
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The biggest question is do you have a 200A service (unless your home is old, this is likely), and if your panel is full, how much of the 200A are you currently utilizing? If you're under that limit in your current panel, you likely can add a second panel off of the meter.

Do you have a dryer? Where is it in relation to the garage?
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Originally Posted by charliemike
The credit pass through is the only way I would have done this to be honest. Looking forward to getting an EV. Probably going to need some electric work on the house.

Anyone know if you can pull a new run from the utility meter to a garage with a new mini panel just for the 40A circuit? Electrician told me my existing panel is full and I don’t want to drop $10K for L2 charging.
I'm not an electrician but I don't think it works this way. Are there other outlets in the garage already? If so, you can re run a 240V line from your panel using the spots occupied by those circuits to a sub panel in the garage and split accordingly. You may be able to get a second meter as well but I'm not sure how that works. May be good to get time of day charging with the second meter as well.
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I'm not an electrician but I don't think it works this way. Are there other outlets in the garage already? If so, you can re run a 240V line from your panel using the spots occupied by those circuits to a sub panel in the garage and split accordingly. You may be able to get a second meter as well but I'm not sure how that works. May be good to get time of day charging with the second meter as well.
Surprisingly, you can run multiple panels off of the same meter in the US, assuming the feeds are sized appropriately.
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Old 08-16-2023, 12:56 PM
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Congrats CM! The Ioniq 6 caught my eye when it was announced. Definitely interested in your thoughts on it when you get it.
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Caught my eye too - loving the styling of the new Hyundais. Share photos when you get it!

By my math, you've still got enough left for a nice Boxster...
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Caught my eye too - loving the styling of the new Hyundais. Share photos when you get it!

By my math, you've still got enough left for a nice Boxster...
I thought about that. My Mazda has 94K on it and my wife’s 2013 Elantra GT has 92K on it. So I decided to lease for two years and then we are going to reboot our car situation completely with two new/newer cars.
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you guys see this jazz with the new Mustang GTD... lol.. the degree to which they ripped off the GT3RS is kinda comical.


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Imitation...flattery, or something like that. I don't think the Mustang looks bad at all.
Engine at opposite ends of the car, too.

That GT3RS also isn't $300k & is road-legal
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hey I didn't say it looks bad. great effort by Ford!
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you guys keeping up with the stuff coming out of Monterey car week!?!? Great stuff!

Follow it here:

Go on FB and Add the group Monterey Car Week
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Picked it up. Pictures to come. 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 6 SEL AWD. Thanks to all here who helped me figure out what were the necessary criteria for a new car.
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Congrats! Excited to see it and get your initial thoughts!
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I love it so far. It’s only been about 20 hours but I drove into DC during rush hour and it makes such a difference. Going to get Exoshield on Monday for the windshield. The quote for ceramic coating was high (I thought) because they want to do paint correction first. Quotes were around $1400 for a 3-year coating.

I’m debating as I got the car so cheap I may keep it after the lease ends and ceramic coating doesn’t need to be removed like PPF before turning it in if I don’t keep it.

I think it’s too expensive at $52K but at the $37K I got it for I think it’s a great car and the cost cutting is understandable.
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For 37k that's not a bad deal.
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Honestly, I still can't believe it.
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Looks awesome! Congrats!

I'd get the PPF on the front and DIY the ceramic coating.
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$1,500 for a paint correction and 3-year ceramic is about $1,000 less than what people are getting out here in the Phoenix area.
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