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I expect that out of the Italians
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https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...491603101.html
Fuckhead kills himself and 2 others. Apparently he was some youtuber as well....
A mother and daughter from San Diego were killed when a wrong-way driver collided with their vehicle on Interstate 805, the medical examiner's office said Friday.
An 18-year-old man was driving a McLaren the wrong way Thursday on I-805 in University City during the evening rush-hour commute, California Highway Patrol officers said.
The McLaren collided with a 2010 Hyundai, killing a 43-year-old woman and her 12-year-old daughter inside as well as the wrong-way driver.
CHP spokesperson Jake Sanchez confirmed the McLaren driver's identity Friday as Trevor Heitmann, 18, of San Diego.
Officer Sanchez said investigators believe Heitmann drove southbound onto northbound I-805 lanes at the Carrol Canyon Road off-ramp before colliding with the Hyundai at speeds in excess of 100 mph near Governor Drive.
Sanchez said the 100 mph estimate is not definitive and is based off several witness reports, but added
"I've been to several horrible crashes," Sanchez said. "The speeds to do what he did to the vehicle -- that vehicle was completely disintegrated at that scene for lack of better words. [The speed estimate] could corroborate with the amount of damage that was sustained at that scene."
Prior to the crash, San Diego police officers responded to reports of a reckless driver at Ashley Falls Elementary School off Del Mar Heights Road in Carmel Valley after a vehicle crashed through a gate on the campus. The car had left the scene before officers arrived.
Officer Sanchez confirmed Friday Heitmann's car was the car involved in the incident.
Sanchez said investigators do not know if there was any motive behind the incident at the elementary school or Heitmann's decision to enter I-805 against traffic.
Eight people were injured in the crash, according to the San Diego Fire-Rescue Department
An 18-year-old man was driving a McLaren the wrong way Thursday on I-805 in University City during the evening rush-hour commute, California Highway Patrol officers said.
The McLaren collided with a 2010 Hyundai, killing a 43-year-old woman and her 12-year-old daughter inside as well as the wrong-way driver.
CHP spokesperson Jake Sanchez confirmed the McLaren driver's identity Friday as Trevor Heitmann, 18, of San Diego.
Officer Sanchez said investigators believe Heitmann drove southbound onto northbound I-805 lanes at the Carrol Canyon Road off-ramp before colliding with the Hyundai at speeds in excess of 100 mph near Governor Drive.
Sanchez said the 100 mph estimate is not definitive and is based off several witness reports, but added
"I've been to several horrible crashes," Sanchez said. "The speeds to do what he did to the vehicle -- that vehicle was completely disintegrated at that scene for lack of better words. [The speed estimate] could corroborate with the amount of damage that was sustained at that scene."
Prior to the crash, San Diego police officers responded to reports of a reckless driver at Ashley Falls Elementary School off Del Mar Heights Road in Carmel Valley after a vehicle crashed through a gate on the campus. The car had left the scene before officers arrived.
Officer Sanchez confirmed Friday Heitmann's car was the car involved in the incident.
Sanchez said investigators do not know if there was any motive behind the incident at the elementary school or Heitmann's decision to enter I-805 against traffic.
Eight people were injured in the crash, according to the San Diego Fire-Rescue Department
Last edited by nist7; 08-24-2018 at 08:44 PM.
Race Director
The son's response is incredibly generous .... The teen driver of the McLaren (Trevor Heitmann) sounds like he was having a bout of mental/emotional unstability .... What a fucking waste ....
https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...491644641.html
https://timesofsandiego.com/crime/20...evor-heitmann/
https://kotaku.com/fiery-car-crash-t...-by-1828591032
https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...491644641.html
https://timesofsandiego.com/crime/20...evor-heitmann/
https://kotaku.com/fiery-car-crash-t...-by-1828591032
Last edited by nanxun; 08-25-2018 at 07:17 AM.
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So, he attentionwhored...even for his own death.
Team Owner
All the car sites have been posting gold all weekend. What a fucking sexfest
https://autoweek.com/article/pebble-...il-never-fails
https://autoweek.com/article/pebble-...il-never-fails
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Martini liveries!
Senior Moderator
I see BoostedJack was showcasing a portion of his collection, huh?
And +1 on Martini Liveries. They are like a 1B to my favorite, Gulf Liveries.
And +1 on Martini Liveries. They are like a 1B to my favorite, Gulf Liveries.
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
horreee shiettteee mang
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Gulf Livery for me is a bit hit/miss depending on the car its on. Can't think of a Martini liveried car that doesn't look amazing.
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True.
Maybe it's the more simplistic looks of the Martini over the louder Gulf colors.
As always, YMMV. They're both excellent, but Martini > Gulf for the majority, for me.
Maybe it's the more simplistic looks of the Martini over the louder Gulf colors.
As always, YMMV. They're both excellent, but Martini > Gulf for the majority, for me.
Did someone say Gulf livery?
If I win the lotto, one of the cars I buy immediately after an McLaren F1 would be a Gunther Werks 400R
If I win the lotto, one of the cars I buy immediately after an McLaren F1 would be a Gunther Werks 400R
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Anyone done paid driving experiences?
Formula Americas at COTA:
EcoBoost Formula 4 cars
$650 for ~1hr on track (half/half short course & full course)
https://jalopnik.com/how-to-fulfill-...lto-1828395685
Formula Americas at COTA:
EcoBoost Formula 4 cars
$650 for ~1hr on track (half/half short course & full course)
https://jalopnik.com/how-to-fulfill-...lto-1828395685
Laguna Seca, Road America, Lime Rock, Mid-Ohio—if you have the cash and the nerve, it’s not hard to find a good driving school at a solid race track. Over the past year, Austin, Texas’s Circuit of The Americas has stepped up its game for students of speed, and it’s added a whole new stack of toys to play with.
Sure, plenty of manufacturers like Cadillac and BMW rent out COTA for their own schools and experiences, and I’ve done pretty much all of them. But driving a super lightweight, Ford EcoBoost-powered, open-wheel racer around the circuit was the closest I’ve gotten to living out my Lewis Hamilton dreams.
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Thankfully the 3.4-mile F1 circuit now offers a course for those who crave something a bit more pure than a street car, and it’s called Formula Americas. For 650 of your hard-earned dollars, you can try your hand at being a single-seater legend—or at least pretend to be one.
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Since most wannabe racing drivers don’t have much in the way of gear, COA gets you squared away with a loaner fire suit, pair of driving shoes, helmet, gloves, and balaclava. A fleet of Mygale Formula 4 cars are prepped for each participant, and a stack of capable instructors is ready to assist each student.
You aren’t required to have track experience somewhere, but the learning curve is super steep with these cars. Assuming that most of the participants have probably watched, but haven’t driven on COTA’s 20 turns, the staff first does a classroom briefing to get you familiar with the basics of performance driving, cone setups, braking points, and the important rules. There are Forza simulators set up for student to learn a bit more about the track between sessions too.
After the briefing, instructors take the students out in passenger cars, making sure you’re quickly informed about the course’s features, bumps, complex corners, and big elevation changes.
Once those are understood, you’re shown how a single-seat race car works, including pedal use, wheel operations, and how to pull away from a stop. Laugh now, but you’ll probably stall out the first few times you try to pull out of the pits.
The Mygale F4 chassis is powered by a 1.6-liter Ford EcoBoost engine and driven by a six-speed sequential gearbox. On paper, you may scoff at a mere 160 turbocharged horsepower, but that package will still manage 0-60 mph in 3.8 seconds. The car only tips the scales at 1,276 pounds, about 1,000 pounds lighter than a Mazda Miata.
There’s enough aero designed to keep you firmly planted to any surface, and absolutely zero comfort features. They’re loud, harsh, stiff, and angry, which is exactly what they should be.
This isn’t a track day, bro road car. This is a race car.
This car demands your attention. Yes, the instructors do a lead-follow setup, driving ahead of three-car packs in a more-than capable Audi R8 V10 Plus, but if you step out of line at all, the car will quickly inform you of your mistake. The EcoBoost engine behind your head may have less power than a Fiesta ST, it’s responsive, and the throttle pedal is more sensitive than a spoiled teenager.
Power steering isn’t a thing here, so you have to work to get the car to rotate through slower corners. Once you’re up to speed, you can definitely give the car some throttle steer, but you better hope you’ve got the wheels pointed the correct direction before you mash the gas.
In faster bends—like COTA’s S turns 3, 4, and 5—you can fly through there much faster than you’d think was possible in a road car.
The brakes take some getting used to, but are strong yet communicative once you put some heat into them. And you do have to left foot brake. My right foot either had to rub against the outer wall of the tub in order to avoid hitting the brake pedal, but this car wasn’t designed for a wide size 11. It has been a while since I’ve driven anything open-wheeled, so maybe more time in the car could help me adjust my placement.
Gear changes are fierce. There are no synchros in the box, and each tap of the right paddle will give you a shove. Downshifts are even more brutal, especially when you’re scrubbing off a ton of speed from 6th to 2nd gear going into Circuit of The Americas’ turns 1 and 12, after the track’s two long straightaways.
Grip is insanely high. Far more than you’d expect from tiny 13-inch wheels and tires, but keep in mind there is a ton of adhesion in those slicks, and the car’s wings really glue the car to the tarmac.
The cockpit is cramped. I’m only 5'11" and 195 pounds, and I was jammed in there. Particularly with my head and shoulders. They didn’t supply HANS devices, and you technically don’t need them, but my head movement would have been greatly reduced when flying down the straightaways. Once I hit 110 mph the air flow really started to disrupt my brain bucket.
Sure, plenty of manufacturers like Cadillac and BMW rent out COTA for their own schools and experiences, and I’ve done pretty much all of them. But driving a super lightweight, Ford EcoBoost-powered, open-wheel racer around the circuit was the closest I’ve gotten to living out my Lewis Hamilton dreams.
.
.
.
Thankfully the 3.4-mile F1 circuit now offers a course for those who crave something a bit more pure than a street car, and it’s called Formula Americas. For 650 of your hard-earned dollars, you can try your hand at being a single-seater legend—or at least pretend to be one.
.
.
.
Since most wannabe racing drivers don’t have much in the way of gear, COA gets you squared away with a loaner fire suit, pair of driving shoes, helmet, gloves, and balaclava. A fleet of Mygale Formula 4 cars are prepped for each participant, and a stack of capable instructors is ready to assist each student.
You aren’t required to have track experience somewhere, but the learning curve is super steep with these cars. Assuming that most of the participants have probably watched, but haven’t driven on COTA’s 20 turns, the staff first does a classroom briefing to get you familiar with the basics of performance driving, cone setups, braking points, and the important rules. There are Forza simulators set up for student to learn a bit more about the track between sessions too.
After the briefing, instructors take the students out in passenger cars, making sure you’re quickly informed about the course’s features, bumps, complex corners, and big elevation changes.
Once those are understood, you’re shown how a single-seat race car works, including pedal use, wheel operations, and how to pull away from a stop. Laugh now, but you’ll probably stall out the first few times you try to pull out of the pits.
The Mygale F4 chassis is powered by a 1.6-liter Ford EcoBoost engine and driven by a six-speed sequential gearbox. On paper, you may scoff at a mere 160 turbocharged horsepower, but that package will still manage 0-60 mph in 3.8 seconds. The car only tips the scales at 1,276 pounds, about 1,000 pounds lighter than a Mazda Miata.
There’s enough aero designed to keep you firmly planted to any surface, and absolutely zero comfort features. They’re loud, harsh, stiff, and angry, which is exactly what they should be.
This isn’t a track day, bro road car. This is a race car.
This car demands your attention. Yes, the instructors do a lead-follow setup, driving ahead of three-car packs in a more-than capable Audi R8 V10 Plus, but if you step out of line at all, the car will quickly inform you of your mistake. The EcoBoost engine behind your head may have less power than a Fiesta ST, it’s responsive, and the throttle pedal is more sensitive than a spoiled teenager.
Power steering isn’t a thing here, so you have to work to get the car to rotate through slower corners. Once you’re up to speed, you can definitely give the car some throttle steer, but you better hope you’ve got the wheels pointed the correct direction before you mash the gas.
In faster bends—like COTA’s S turns 3, 4, and 5—you can fly through there much faster than you’d think was possible in a road car.
The brakes take some getting used to, but are strong yet communicative once you put some heat into them. And you do have to left foot brake. My right foot either had to rub against the outer wall of the tub in order to avoid hitting the brake pedal, but this car wasn’t designed for a wide size 11. It has been a while since I’ve driven anything open-wheeled, so maybe more time in the car could help me adjust my placement.
Gear changes are fierce. There are no synchros in the box, and each tap of the right paddle will give you a shove. Downshifts are even more brutal, especially when you’re scrubbing off a ton of speed from 6th to 2nd gear going into Circuit of The Americas’ turns 1 and 12, after the track’s two long straightaways.
Grip is insanely high. Far more than you’d expect from tiny 13-inch wheels and tires, but keep in mind there is a ton of adhesion in those slicks, and the car’s wings really glue the car to the tarmac.
The cockpit is cramped. I’m only 5'11" and 195 pounds, and I was jammed in there. Particularly with my head and shoulders. They didn’t supply HANS devices, and you technically don’t need them, but my head movement would have been greatly reduced when flying down the straightaways. Once I hit 110 mph the air flow really started to disrupt my brain bucket.
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Essentially an adult kart.. I'd do COTA's karts a bunch, then do the adult-kart.
My buddy has done the Cadillac sessions a couple of times.
They have Audi sessions too (ahem... R8)
This would be a fab experience even though it's follow the leader
Another buddy / coworker did this type of deal up in Dallas with a stock car. He loved it.
This must be even better.. hit Turn 11 and rip past the pace car.. shiett...
My buddy has done the Cadillac sessions a couple of times.
They have Audi sessions too (ahem... R8)
This would be a fab experience even though it's follow the leader
Another buddy / coworker did this type of deal up in Dallas with a stock car. He loved it.
This must be even better.. hit Turn 11 and rip past the pace car.. shiett...
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Starting at $28 / race
Safety Car
Damn, looks fun as hell. I'll have to check that out if I'm ever near that area in TX....
Team Owner
Check out this Lambo Aventador Martini. I can't link the pic because my job blocks IG
www.instagram.com/libertywalkkato/
www.instagram.com/libertywalkkato/
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Check out this Lambo Aventador Martini. I can't link the pic because my job blocks IG
www.instagram.com/libertywalkkato/
www.instagram.com/libertywalkkato/
Gorgeous.
Team Owner
I will say it's surprising how many of these companies are popping up in the Porsche resto-mod game now after all the success Singer has had. What's more, none of them still have come close to Singer, either.
Team Owner
Last week I had the 20k service done on my A4, and the dealer loaner I was given was a Q3. What an uninspiring dog of a car. Loud, rough, slooooowwww.
There is no comparison between that 2.0T and the 2.0T beast under the hood of my car.
There is no comparison between that 2.0T and the 2.0T beast under the hood of my car.
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Isn't it the same???
Azine Jabroni
Team Owner
Safety Car
I had a Audi Q3 as a rental car for about 3 weeks and definitely agreed with you. Even though it's a lower trim level, it had very little go AND the MPG wasn't that great either (I'm ok with the slowness of a prius cause it gets you 50+mpg, lol).
The other annoying thing was that the HVAC controls were at the very low area of the center stack, and at least for me it was quite difficult trying to adjust the temp/fan speed since I had to reach real low and look quickly due their placement and not nearly as easy as it was in most other cars.
Last edited by nist7; 09-10-2018 at 02:43 PM.
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Honestly though.. who are the type to buy the Q3?
Ex-OEM King
Team Owner
Wrong, Sam. Very wrong.
The correct answer is Cucks. Only cucks buy Q3s.
The correct answer is Cucks. Only cucks buy Q3s.
Senior Moderator
Team Owner
X1 is not slow... actually other than its ugliness, i liked its driving characteristics
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
question was rhetorical
Senior Moderator
Senior Moderator
Speaking of Owdee's, I'll have to follow-up with the stealership but my car apparently is slated to be made sometime next week. So, some S5s will get together and to birth the new one?
Team Owner
That i have to disagree... i think GLA with worst looking among the 3.... Q3 is actually the best looking one.
Edit: actually no , i was thinking about the last gen X1... the current gen X1 is the best looking among the 3.
Last edited by oonowindoo; 09-10-2018 at 04:00 PM.
Team Owner
The front half of S5 welded together with the rear half of the S4 = S5 sportback. How else do you think they came up with the 2 additional doors?
Senior Moderator
Well, I dunno...not really thinking of it. I will agree that the X1 is the ugliest. I think the Q3s proportions seems...off. It's like they took the Q5 and stunted the back. I dunno...need more coffee.
Moderator
I think I'd have a JCW Countryman over the X1/GLA/Q3, otherwise, the X1/Q3 would probably get the nod over the GLA for me, unless we go for broke, then GLA45, SQ3, then the rest.