srika

cool site lots of statistics

http://www.supercarworld.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi

Rick_TL-S

I went to look at the Z06 today & they sold it yesterday.

Had a couple other nice, stock ones w/ a lot less miles, but they're just too far out of my budget.
Oh well. At least they were nice enough to let me drive one since I had such a huge interest in buying from them.

Aman

Damn, that sucks man. There are plenty of Zs out there though, you'll find another just fine.

On the topic of car searching, my friend is trying to get rid of his Mustang. His main gripe with it is that it always feels like it's about to fall apart. I've sent him links to S2Ks, Zs, Gs, 3s, RX8s. What else would you suggest he look at?

Costco

If I had my own garage I would get an S2000 any day. None of the other cars apply, RX-8 is a quirky one but it's a close 2nd.

Costco

oh and the C5 Z06 beats a non-Grand Sport C6 in every performance category. The interior is just nicer (always liked the button to pop open the doors ) and it has a targa top, and the LS2/LS3 is a better base for serious engine-related mods than the LS1/LS6 was.

S A CHO

If it's older than 2005 than that's part of the charm. If it's newer than 2005 it's either a lemon or beat to hell

hANDYcaptd

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Quick noob question guys.

I usually park my car in gear. And I do this after I turn off the engine. But I've been in the car with my coworker and he always has it in gear before turning off the engine.

Does it make a difference in what order it's done? I'm thinking no, but wanted to make sure.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

that would feel very weird for me.. lol

hANDYcaptd

iTrader: (5)

You don't park in gear? Or you do it the way I do it?

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

Not really. My work/home parking spot is pretty leveled. I think I do it very rarely.

Rick_TL-S

The Z06s aren't targa tops, fyi. They're coupes to keep the body more rigid.

And I'm confused by the end. The C5 Z06 beats a base C6 yet the LS2/3 in the C6 is a better base for engine mods than the LS6 in the Z06. While I won't necessarily disagree that LS2/3 has the ability to produce big, 4-figure HP numbers, the LS6 still has the capabilities of reaching 800-1,000Hp.

srika

I used to park in gear frequently when I had my Supra. I would put it in gear before turning off the engine though. I don't think it's optimal to select gears with the car off, I think it's better to have it running, for the synchros and sh*t. Then I would apply the parking brake about halfway, my reasoning was that it keeps stress off the parking brake.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

Maybe I've been doing this in a not proper way? I just park my car, shut it off, and put the parking brake on. That's it. I don't really leave it in gear.

srika

you don't have to put it in gear. I would say most people don't. (not sure tho)

personally I think it gave me some extra reassurance, I mean, what if the parking brake failed or was deactivated somehow. the car would still be ok.

hANDYcaptd

iTrader: (5)

I thought about that, and I've done it both way. But it sure feels like there's less resistance with the engine off. The difference it little though.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

I have a story about this. Like 6 years ago, one of my best friends bought a brand new RSX-S. I didn't know how to drive a stick shift and my friend just let me test drive it anyway.

I stalled it like 5 times driving for like 3 minutes around the block. I came back to the house and parked. I didn't know you have to put it in the gear nor put on the parking brake back then. So, I just shut it off and went back in the house.

The problem was that the house was located on a hilly area....... we came back out 2 hours later to find out his car had rolled itself down the hill and hit this big ass tree like 5 houses down from his house.

Good thing the car went up the curb itself and hit the tree and stopped because there were sooooooooo many houses at the bottom of the hill.

civicdrivr

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I usually park, shut off, clutch, slide into third. And when I start its clutch, start, neutral. Regardless of how level my spot is.

Costco

You misunderstood me.... I should have made it more clear.

I meant the C6s have targa tops, which is why I mentioned a nicer interior and the button to open the door as well. AFAIK the Gen III V8s (LS1, LS6, etc.) respond fairly well to bolt-ons, but it's not even close to how the Gen IV V8s do (LS2, LS3)

Costco

For an automatic I always use the parking brake on a level surface... if it's hilly, then I shift into neutral, pull up on the parking brake, then let go of the foot brake so the car doesn't use the parking pawl to hold it. Finally, I shift into park of course.

It's a good habit to take more precautions. Having disassembled an automatic transmission before and seeing how small the parking pawl is, and similarly, the size of parking brake shoes/parking brake handle gear, etc. are, I'm not going to take any chances.

Just as an example, this parking gear/pawl assembly are pretty much the only things preventing 3,000 lbs of metal from moving on its own.



I basically do the same thing in manual cars.

Rick_TL-S

Ok, your 2nd sentence threw me off since you went into the reasons why after saying a C5 Z06 beats a non-GS C6 & above.

All good.

hANDYcaptd

iTrader: (5)

So put it in gear while the engine is on?

Costco

You could do that, just remember to kill the engine before you let go of the clutch

I prefer to actually turn the key to OFF before I shift into gear, just in case. I also use the clutch, but it shouldn't matter anyway since neither the engine nor the trans is operating (though I could be wrong). But either way, see above.



In my attempt to be more concise than I normally am, I leave out important details

vas25tl

got pulled over for speeding yesterday. I've only had one ticket in 10 years and it got dropped to a non moving violation after appearing in court. Was hoping for a warning but didn't get so lucky.

hANDYcaptd

iTrader: (5)

Cool, thanks for clarifying. I guess we have people who do it both ways. Oh, and I also use the clutch even with the engine off. Force of habit, and probably a good one

onebadna1nsx

I just leave it in neutral, parking brake on, engine off. My remote start won't work if the 240's left in gear because it's tapped to the neutral position sensor.

Oh yeah, and after a month or two finally, with a dead battery and turbo dismantled, my 240 up and fired right up again without hesitation pulling a lot harder than before!

civicdrivr

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A few of my friends got together one night a few years ago up in NY. We went to a Fridays that is right next to a club, and as we were leaving one of my friends hit the button on his remote to start his Civic. Only problem was he never installed the neutral safety switch and left the car in first. It kept trying to start the car, all while the car would lurch forward about a foot. It hopped a curb and finally stopped when it ran into a tree

It was the funniest thing Ive ever seen - even the bouncers from next door came over to laugh at him

vas25tl

that's a good story.

ttribe

Yumcha

Scheduled a meeting with the local MINI dealership tomorrow. Time to negotiate a price for the Countryman S.

Wife is getting a new car. On my b-day.




Waitaminit.

ttribe

Good luck on the negotiations.

Yumcha

Other cars we did consider: BMW X1 and Mercedes-Benz C250 4Matic. The X1 is likely out as the wife does not at all like it...the look, the interior...

Aman

Congrats!

IMO Mini should only make the Cooper and the Cooper S, but the Countryman does seem like a pretty cool car.

6MT?



When I park my AT car on a level surface, I'll usually just leave it in park. I know the prawl is small, but I trust the engineering behind it.

Any sort of hill, and if it bounced off the prawl I'll pull the e-brake so it's holding the car, not the prawl.

I think it's good practice in FWD MT cars to have the parking brake on and the car in gear, so all four wheels are locked. Don't think it's that useful in RWD cars.

I once drove my friend's Mustang home after a get-together we were both at. His car was parked on an incline, and I didn't notice the parking brake was off. Pushed the clutch in to start the car, and nearly bumped into our friend's Liberty behind us

2007, maybe the fact that it's a convertible has to do with it? It's not exactly the stiffest vehicle out there.

He's not known for taking care of cars, but he hasn't done anything to purposefully abuse it either. Its original charm has worn out on him after almost 2 years, he wants a car that can just shut up and get him places day-to-day, and be fun when wanted.

madcaps

iTrader: (1)

I made the mistake of not putting a manual car in gear on a hill and didn't pull the handbrake all the way up. In addition, I didn't turn my wheels towards the curb either. Needless to say, my Mom comes rushing in my room telling me my car is rolling down the street. So here is 17 year old me, running down the street in my socks trying to catch up with my car (like I could stop it even if I did catch up to it ). Luckily, our house was brand new and the homes below us were still being built. So when my lowered civic went up the driveway on the other side of the street at a perfect angle preventing scrappage and suddenly stopped in an unfinished front lawn, I was pretty lucky and happy there was nobody hurt with no damage to my car.

TL;DR- Dude, make sure your handbrake is fully engaged and put that shit in gear and turn your wheels to face the curb or you'll be chasing your car down the street in your socks.

Costco

^not only that, but when you park on an incline without the handbrake, the car will make a god awful shudder when you shift out of Park, or will be more difficult to shift out of gear on a manual.

I prefer my method... no ka-CHNNGK when I shift out of park or straining to pull it out of gear. Whenever someone parks on an incline and lets the car roll back and bounce off the pawl, it makes me squirm.

On a level surface it shouldn't matter much. But then I tell my mom and sister to use the p-brake on the driveway, and it's always barely depressed

madcaps

iTrader: (1)

In every manual car I have ever owned I have never not used the handbrake when parked, to only rely on putting it gear is retarded, especially on an incline. However, in our AT Accord, I rarely use the handbrake when parked, unless we are on a steep incline.

hANDYcaptd

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I'm pretty sure the e-brake is only serving as a back-up if the car's already lurched forward/backward and onto the parking pawl.

I've used the method Costco described. Probably the best if you want to save wear on an AT trans.

StreetKA

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speedemon90

yea i hate it when people take their car out of park and there's that loud noise. I do what you described earlier by putting it in neutral and then setting in the parking brake, finally moving it in park.

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

1,047tq

230mph

$600k

Aman

I should probably rephrase, it's not resting on the prawl. If it does bounce off I'll just yank up on the handbrake before it goes back on. Doesn't give me that thunk when I go out of park.