Yumcha

So, Germans don't seem to mind some subtlety...and that's fine. Otherwise, get a Z06. THAT sure stands out differently than stock.

civicdrivr

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We're good, I'll keep it under 45mph.

ttribe

Yeah, a prime example of that would be the Lime Rock M3...oh wait...how about the SLS AMG Black...wait, that's not it either...Porsche GT RS...no, not what I meant....

Yumcha

Okay, fine...giving the 80-20 rule, nimrod.



BUT, BUT...for the M3...and I've seen it a few times already (not impressed BTW), some yeehaws out there are taking 335s and slapping on M3 badges thinking they can get away with it.

ttribe

Utter crap. People putting M3 badges on 328s and 335s. I hate that.

Of course, I'm the same guy who created a thread over in 3G about putting "Type-S" badges on base TLs, so I think it's pretty obvious I'm not a fan of such shenanigans.

charliemike

At least they're 335s

Yumcha

Still no excuse!










Although, back when I owned the CL, I really should've ripped off my Acura badge and slapped on Mercedes-Benz emblems and get everyone to think I'm baller and driving a l33t, one-of-kind Mercedes CL-Class car.

Would've definitely gotten them cougars and bishes.

Costco

on both counts

Unfortunately I don't know where the Astra would fit in GM's current lineup, let alone a VXR variant. They know better, not many people here would buy one.

Costco

It appears I've developed an unhealthy obsession with the legs in #6414. Thanks srika!

Yumcha

Nice legs...but, is it just me or is her face kinda ...?

charliemike

She may have an unflattering profile. Plus those lights are as unflattering as it gets.

srika

wow. Porsche has gone off the deep end. the as-tested price for the 2014 911 Carrera S in this comparison test is - $148,245

what the actual hell.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test

srika

more butter? more syrup?

srika

I should mention - the car has $49,000 in options.

Yumcha

The Porsche Carrera S was never a cheap car to start with...?




If I was to venture into a new 911 territory, it would be just the Carrera. No S, no Targa, no GT, no GT2, no GT3...

Yumcha

But, I will add that most peeps in here have been griping about the German's pricing of late.

Costco

There's a buddy of mine who is all about German makes... has a Cayman himself.

He thinks I'm a domestic fanboy. In reality I just can't stomach the pricing of the Deutsche Big 3. I love the cars they make. But as they're closer to the reality of ownership than say, a Poopdick, their inherent drawbacks come to light as well. We go back and forth a lot, to say the least.

charliemike

I'm really looking forward to a comparison between the F-Type and the 911.

The Vantage was never quite able to beat the 911 (at least until the V12 was crammed in) but I would love to see what the F-Type S at $77k does against the $84K Carrera.

Yumcha

Well, as they say, if you wanna play...you gotta pay. Then again, most of the cars we drool over, domestic or import (Japanese, German), can be a PiTA and $$$ to maintain. I say most (zipit, ttribe! )...

But, don't go meandering into the TL sub-jungle and say that or you're gonna get a hurt real bad.

Yumcha

Bang for the buck, I'd right off say the Jaguar wins it...hands down. But, the allure of a Porsche and that danged stubborn rear engine...? It may just get me to ante the extra $7K to get into one...if I were shopping.


But, that's just me. Still, the Jaguar is gorgeous and in this case, it's a very hard pick if the $ difference was not a factor.

Yumcha

Still when, the time comes for me to one day (hah, not) consider a mid-life crisis tourer, I'd probably take that ~$80K and go for a used Aston Martin V8 Vantage.

srika

I know the S was never cheap, I am more baffled by the possibility that it can be optioned out to cost the same as a 997 Turbo. And, if you recall the 991 Turbo S is going for close to $200k. For comparison that is about what the 2008 GT2 went for.

charliemike

That would be one of my stops too. I watched the Top Gear Isle of Man episode last night and even in crappy stereo on my TV in my bedroom that V8 Vantage sounded ... Transcendental.

I haven't had a chance to hear a F-Type S or F-Type V8 yet in that type of setting but the video of the F-Type Coupe R was every bit as good.

(apologies for the stupid Youtube commercials)

Yumcha

Yeah, okay. Thanks, jerk.

I was pretty sure it would be the Porsche over the Jaguar. But, now...not so sure anymore.

charliemike

Chris Harris made your perfect comparison ... the 911 Cab vs. F-Type Cab vs. Aston Martin Vantage Volante

Yumcha

Still hate Chris Harris. And because I hate him for the cool cars he drives, I don't care what he thinks!

JS + XES

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You don't talk crap about Chris Harris.

Maybe I'll ban you.

00TL-P3.2

I caught one (FType Convertible V6 I beleive) going under an overpass near my house. Sounded amazing with the echo.

charliemike

The thing that I gleaned from that video is that if I owned any of those three, I would be a very, very happy man.

Yumcha

Dingis. You're lucky I didn't ban YOU for not getting an M3. Here we are...all of us pining for a good German car to hooligan around in and YOUUUUU go passing up a lovely M3.

Yumcha

Wouldn't we all, charlie...wouldn't we all.




I've always said this: whoever said $$$$ does not buy happiness, obviously doesn't know how to drive. Probably walks everywhere.

Crazy Bimmer

Its not only the German cars that are getting expensive.

In 5 years the base price of the GTR has gone up by $40k!!

JS + XES

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Seriously, now it's like $100k.

srika

thanks for the refresher with the Chris Harris comparo vid - the 911 in that video is a cool $160k. But, after watching the video again (its been a while) - it makes me ponder, maybe the $ is justified for a 2014 model Porsche? I do think that yes, it's justified. Also when you think of things like inflation, etc. etc.

charliemike

If you go by what they charge in the US, the C4S Cab starts at $117K.

Crazy Bimmer

I mean a TL with all options is now $46k..bananas.

JS + XES

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And it still comes with the Beak.

srika

got it.

Yumcha

J...we're trying to have a serious conversation about cars for effs sakes. What is a TL doing in here!??

Yumcha

Acquaintance of mine at a Nissan dealership said that there was no real reason for the price hike except that there was a nice demand and so, they could get away with it.



So, in regards to those darned Germans........