phil as in phil2???

 

 

 

At least he changed his avatar...

 

lol...damn, long time.

 

Gotcha.

 

 

How much more was the insurance for the GTO vs the CL? That's the main thing that scares me. I have a clean record.

 

no they are not the same. the legacy shares the sti motor well about most of it. the sti uses a diff turbo, intake manifold, tmic, and ecu tuning mainly. blocks are identical. the turbo is def the key there as tuning is moot and the intake manifold is debatable along with the sti tmic. obviosuly the tranny and adj diff are a plus as well. the new wrx shares the forester engine. so basically the 06 wrx is a detuned detuned version of the sti. it seems that the new wrx is about even with a lgt performance wise. it's more of a drivers race, however having said that the lgt is much more refined especially over the TR version of the wrx. also insurance is way less stock lgt 5spds dyno about 200/210 and responds ridiculously well to basic bolt on mods. it seems the oem turbo and fuel setup maxes out at about 290/340 which should be more then enough for most. im very thankful subie gave us a motor that so over engineered for stock lgt purposes. as far as pricing there are still a couple of 05 lgts out there that can be had for less then a loaded 06 wrx.

peace

no back on topic about the gto

 

$60 a year

 

I never owned a cl, but my insurance with a clean record on 3 cars (04 gto, 04 sti, 05 Rav4L) is 2240 a yr and the sti is the most expensive to insure of the bunch at 890.

 

absolutely no surprise there. i wonder if evos cost more to insure then a sti generally. so many are crashing them along with the sti.

 

<---- Already pays $300/month on the CL-S.

Somebody had a few speeding tickets 30 months ago

Although by July I'll have a clean record

 

Wow sounds like insurance doesn't matter. I figure that since Hondas get stolen a lot they were high.

 

Jesus! How can you justify driving? Thats my insurance and car payment together!

Luckily that will be going away soon, though! Buy an Escort 8500

 

I already have a V1

I pay $760/mo to drive (not including gas)

 

I was paying 500/month for insurance on my CL due to an accident. It comes off on my June renewal, can't wait to see what it goes down to.

 

I'm switching to Progressive once my points drop off. It will drop to $183/mo.

 

usaa>progressive

 

Sweet. My Escort 8500 is the poor man's V1. Work like a charm and I have it stashed near the floorboard.

 

Back on topic - BUY THE GTO ----- NOW! I said NOW damn it!

 

 

I pay about $200 for both the Viper and Tahoe-all at the highest limits available. Plus, the service can't be toped.

 

Don't you have to be in the armed services?

 

Or directly or be the offspring.

My father was in the Army...I can have USAA, and I think I can grandfather in any future spouse and Children I have.

I can also have accts with military credit unions, and have my Renters Ins with AFI..

USAA isnt the cheapest..they are usual more on the expensive end of things...but they are the best for auto insurance.

 

Mr Steve what is your major malfunction? Do you not understand? Why are you wasting time tip-typing about car insurance when you need to be buying the gto RIGHT NOW? As in log onto Ebay and START BIDDING!

 

hahaha...

gotta sell the CL-S first

 

you mean unload the cl to a poor young schmuck right!

 

Yeah that too...

It's not like I'm selling a lemon. It's a great car but I'm just bored with it.

 

arent you on your 2nd one?

 

Rock the shit out of it, Steve.

 

The GTO rocks. That's another weekend driver possibility for me, while keeping my beloved TL as a daily driver.

Getting it for less than $20k would be a huge plus...while I understand that the 2004 is "not as good" as the 2005, you can't beat the power for the money. I mean, people are talking about the LS1 as if it's chopped liver!

Go for it, MrSteve!

 

Yes... got a 6-speed in June of '05

 

Just get the GTO already

 

you won't regret it, but I *do* believe the gas mileage will bw worse than the CL.

 

Indeed it will, but as people have attested; considering you don't floor it at every light, the gas mileage decrease is not that significant. People report anywhere from 1-4 mpg less than what a v6 CL would get.

 

heh...I get 8 mpg at idle

 

I get better then my first gen CL which got about 18-20. So far i'm avg 19 just on my daily driving (100 miles a day, a lot of stop and go mix between freeways and streets). I did a 200 mile round trip to the casino friday night, got 24 mpg.




So, no; gas mileage won't really be worse then the CL. I don't baby the car either

 

That's when I got mine



I think I'm going to have to end up selling it though. It's just too much of a drain on my finances trying to go to school at the same time, and education is way more important.


Looks like I'm headed towards an older Firebird...........

 

So Japanese speaking robots are better than English speaking robots?