Foolish to buy 2004 GTO?
Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
^ Might be bland but far from ugly
And that front lip shoptalker has on...I actually like that A LOT.
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A dealership in San Fran has 3 '04 leftovers.
Wonder how anxious they are to unload a 2 year old model car which they have 3 of?
I just need some young shmuck from the CL forum to buy my CL-S6 and I'll be set.
Wonder how anxious they are to unload a 2 year old model car which they have 3 of?I just need some young shmuck from the CL forum to buy my CL-S6 and I'll be set.
Originally Posted by mrsteve
I just need some young shmuck from the CL forum to buy my CL-S6 and I'll be set. 

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Originally Posted by The Sarlacc
I agree. Its a fairly plain jane car...but I even I have to admit its growing on me...and I hate admitting that.
And that front lip shoptalker has on...I actually like that A LOT.
And that front lip shoptalker has on...I actually like that A LOT.
very bland car, but then again, so was the CL

We'll go out and photo one day, I really want to get out and do some shots in the mojave flats

w/ the suburban though
Originally Posted by mrsteve
Scott they don't list which transmission the car is. How do I tell if it's a 6MT from the VIN?
Here is how the vin breaks down.
2 = Pontiac V = V2 Body Style
G = General Motors X = GTO
6 = Asia Pacific Region 1 = 2-door Coupe
6 G 2 V X 1 2 G X 4 L 000001
2 = Number of Air Bags sequential unit number
G = Pontiac GTO 5.7L L = Elizabeth, South Australia
0-9 = Security Digit 4 = 2004
Here is the Plate break down under the hood
MODEL V28VX37-3 00 -3P X
BODY No. 6G2VX12GX4L000001
TRIM 81I A/C C60
PAINT XXXX
BUILT MMMYY SUSP. FE2
ENG. LS1 TRANS M00 AXLE GS9
Model Number Digits: 24=auto 46=manual
Model Number Letter: Interior Code
Vehicle Identification Number (VIN)
GTO Trim
Paint Code
Build Date
Engine Type
Transmission Type
M30 Automatic
M12 Manual
Air Conditioning Code
Suspension Code
Axl
Originally Posted by CLpower
very bland car, but then again, so was the CL 
We'll go out and photo one day, I really want to get out and do some shots in the mojave flats
w/ the suburban though

We'll go out and photo one day, I really want to get out and do some shots in the mojave flats

w/ the suburban though

Mojave flats sound sweet.
Originally Posted by ShopTalker
The Monaros, GTO, and the Chevy all come down the same assembly line. To my knowledge there is no way to get the sequence number as to the order of the GTO'S off the line.
Here is how the vin breaks down.
2 = Pontiac V = V2 Body Style
G = General Motors X = GTO
6 = Asia Pacific Region 1 = 2-door Coupe
6 G 2 V X 1 2 G X 4 L 000001
2 = Number of Air Bags sequential unit number
G = Pontiac GTO 5.7L L = Elizabeth, South Australia
0-9 = Security Digit 4 = 2004
Here is the Plate break down under the hood
MODEL V28VX37-3 00 -3P X
BODY No. 6G2VX12GX4L000001
TRIM 81I A/C C60
PAINT XXXX
BUILT MMMYY SUSP. FE2
ENG. LS1 TRANS M00 AXLE GS9
Model Number Digits: 24=auto 46=manual
Model Number Letter: Interior Code
Vehicle Identification Number (VIN)
GTO Trim
Paint Code
Build Date
Engine Type
Transmission Type
M30 Automatic
M12 Manual
Air Conditioning Code
Suspension Code
Axl
Here is how the vin breaks down.
2 = Pontiac V = V2 Body Style
G = General Motors X = GTO
6 = Asia Pacific Region 1 = 2-door Coupe
6 G 2 V X 1 2 G X 4 L 000001
2 = Number of Air Bags sequential unit number
G = Pontiac GTO 5.7L L = Elizabeth, South Australia
0-9 = Security Digit 4 = 2004
Here is the Plate break down under the hood
MODEL V28VX37-3 00 -3P X
BODY No. 6G2VX12GX4L000001
TRIM 81I A/C C60
PAINT XXXX
BUILT MMMYY SUSP. FE2
ENG. LS1 TRANS M00 AXLE GS9
Model Number Digits: 24=auto 46=manual
Model Number Letter: Interior Code
Vehicle Identification Number (VIN)
GTO Trim
Paint Code
Build Date
Engine Type
Transmission Type
M30 Automatic
M12 Manual
Air Conditioning Code
Suspension Code
Axl
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Originally Posted by The Sarlacc
I still want to see the burban, too.
Mojave flats sound sweet.
Mojave flats sound sweet.
One day friend, one day 
I figure we'll do a trial run in the goat, then come back a few weeks later int he sub
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Originally Posted by Sdog2012
Man, it's gonna be scary in a few years when you can pick up a GTO for like $10k, so many highschool kids will be getting them and killing themselves
No different really than going out and buying a Mustang GT now right?

And high school kids could find a way to kill themselves in a minivan let alone a 400hp car.
Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
But like in most turbo cars, 1st gear sucks ass. The GTO had power all over the place.
Its really only thing i dont like about 4banger turbos.
Its really only thing i dont like about 4banger turbos.

im going to try the money on the dash trick once i get a protune and see if the passenger can grab it. i hope not.
prob need a bigger turbo for that though.i also thought the gto was very heavy which is why the 04s werent as quick as they should have been. the 05s though can run low 13s no?
Last edited by VXCL; Feb 9, 2006 at 11:12 AM.
[QUOTE=VXCL]im going to try the money on the dash trick once i get a protune and see if the passenger can grab it. i hope not.
prob need a bigger turbo for that though.
/QUOTE]
Lol I remember techs talking about this with 300zx TT when big customers would bring them in highly modded.
prob need a bigger turbo for that though./QUOTE]
Lol I remember techs talking about this with 300zx TT when big customers would bring them in highly modded.
Originally Posted by VXCL
have you driven the lgt or sti? its pretty hard for me not to redline in first becuase the g force throwing me back has me reaching for the clutch, plus it gets there immeadatley. granted im stage II, but i dont think it was much easier stock. i dont drive with the gangsta lean either, but i can be bothered switching to granny style everytime i want to take off. 
im going to try the money on the dash trick once i get a protune and see if the passenger can grab it. i hope not.
prob need a bigger turbo for that though.
i also thought the gto was very heavy which is why the 04s werent as quick as they should have been. the 05s though can run low 13s no?

im going to try the money on the dash trick once i get a protune and see if the passenger can grab it. i hope not.
prob need a bigger turbo for that though.i also thought the gto was very heavy which is why the 04s werent as quick as they should have been. the 05s though can run low 13s no?
I drove the WRX TR, isnt that the same engine as the Legacy GT?
Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
I drove the WRX TR, isnt that the same engine as the Legacy GT?

LGT has a detuned 2.5 from the STI...unless the new WRX got the 2.5 as well, i think they are 2.0 engines.
Originally Posted by The Sarlacc

LGT has a detuned 2.5 from the STI...unless the new WRX got the 2.5 as well, i think they are 2.0 engines.
230-hp 2.5-liter DOHC intercooled, turbocharged boxer engine is the WRX TR
Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
230-hp 2.5-liter DOHC intercooled, turbocharged boxer engine is the WRX TR
Which is the same engine as in the Leg GT, Fotester Turbo, Tribeca no? De-tuned of course.
New to the WRX for 2006.
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
No different really than going out and buying a Mustang GT now right? 
And high school kids could find a way to kill themselves in a minivan let alone a 400hp car.

And high school kids could find a way to kill themselves in a minivan let alone a 400hp car.
or camaro, etc. Hell C5 vettes are already in the high teens. That said, most HS kids won't be able to insure one.
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Originally Posted by VXCL
i also thought the gto was very heavy which is why the 04s werent as quick as they should have been. the 05s though can run low 13s no?
guys weighing them on their own are looking at 3650-90. So yea, it's a big, 05's are good low 13's cars and some guys are in the 12's even on stock shitty rubber
Originally Posted by VXCL
have you driven the lgt or sti? its pretty hard for me not to redline in first becuase the g force throwing me back has me reaching for the clutch, plus it gets there immeadatley. granted im stage II, but i dont think it was much easier stock. i dont drive with the gangsta lean either, but i can be bothered switching to granny style everytime i want to take off. 
im going to try the money on the dash trick once i get a protune and see if the passenger can grab it. i hope not.
prob need a bigger turbo for that though.
i also thought the gto was very heavy which is why the 04s werent as quick as they should have been. the 05s though can run low 13s no?

im going to try the money on the dash trick once i get a protune and see if the passenger can grab it. i hope not.
prob need a bigger turbo for that though.i also thought the gto was very heavy which is why the 04s werent as quick as they should have been. the 05s though can run low 13s no?
I must say that owning both an sti and a gto the cars are not comparable. The GTO is much more luxurious than the sti. The gto rides much nicer in comparison, but also handles like shit. I have never driven the LGT, but im sure the ride quality and apoointments are on par with the GTO.








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