First List of Child Haulers under $35K
#201
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a toyota product?
https://acurazine.com/forums/automotive-news-6/toyota-linked-human-trafficking-sweatshop-abuse-393582/
how dare you?
https://acurazine.com/forums/automotive-news-6/toyota-linked-human-trafficking-sweatshop-abuse-393582/
how dare you?
#202
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
Acura TL
Audi A4 Sedan
Honda Accord
Infiniti G35
Lexus IS250
Mazda 6
Mazda CX-9
Nissan Maxima
Nissan Murano
Pontiac G8
Toyota Avalon
Volkswagen Passat
Volvo S60
Audi A4 Sedan
Honda Accord
Infiniti G35
Lexus IS250
Mazda 6
Mazda CX-9
Nissan Maxima
Nissan Murano
Pontiac G8
Toyota Avalon
Volkswagen Passat
Volvo S60
But if it had to be one of these, then I would pick the G8 or the G35.
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#203
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Get a used 2002 Ford Focus !!
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But...Seriously, what about the Ford Fusion? Loaded up its under 35K and looks like a Maxima....
#204
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
After looking at this list, I would recommend that you check out the Hyundai Genesis.
But if it had to be one of these, then I would pick the G8 or the G35.![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
But if it had to be one of these, then I would pick the G8 or the G35.
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#205
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
I have one.....Won't work here ![Sad](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif)
But...Seriously, what about the Ford Fusion? Loaded up its under 35K and looks like a Maxima....
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But...Seriously, what about the Ford Fusion? Loaded up its under 35K and looks like a Maxima....
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#206
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
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#207
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
Doesn't have to be on the list...When does the Genesis come out?
You won't see any in Europe. (Or are you already back stateside??)
#208
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
They should be going through the U.S. distribution network as we speak. People will start seeing them at the dealerships in a couple of weeks.
You won't see any in Europe. (Or are you already back stateside??)
You won't see any in Europe. (Or are you already back stateside??)
#209
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On the CUV front you might want to look at a Mitsubishi Outlander XLS. I've had one for over a year now and it's been great.
Key features:
3.0L V6 (PZEV rated, so it's very clean)
25 mpg real world on the highway, 20 around town (not great, but OK for a CUV)
6 speed auto tranny with paddle shifters
4WD, can be switched on the fly to 2WD-4WD Auto-4WD Locked
Holds 7 passengers in a pinch, small rear seat but the kids love to ride there
Great 650 watt Rockford Fosgate stereo with subwoofer
NAVI, fully integrated with lots of adjustability
Hard drive based Nav, quicker than DVD Nav, also rips/stores music
7 inch touchscreen, also plays DVDs
HID headlights (load leveling), LED tails
Keyless ignition (great feature!) and keyless entry
Hands free Bluetooth, very well integrated, works perfectly
Leather interior, power drivers seat, slide/recline/flip 2nd row, hidden 3rd row
10 year powertrain warranty, 5 year bumper-to-bumper warranty
Moonroof, tinted glass on rear windows
18" alloy wheels
Stability control, traction control, TPMS, ABS, side curtain airbags
I got mine fully loaded like that for $29,000. List is $32,000 but you can get it for under invoice if you try.
Key features:
3.0L V6 (PZEV rated, so it's very clean)
25 mpg real world on the highway, 20 around town (not great, but OK for a CUV)
6 speed auto tranny with paddle shifters
4WD, can be switched on the fly to 2WD-4WD Auto-4WD Locked
Holds 7 passengers in a pinch, small rear seat but the kids love to ride there
Great 650 watt Rockford Fosgate stereo with subwoofer
NAVI, fully integrated with lots of adjustability
Hard drive based Nav, quicker than DVD Nav, also rips/stores music
7 inch touchscreen, also plays DVDs
HID headlights (load leveling), LED tails
Keyless ignition (great feature!) and keyless entry
Hands free Bluetooth, very well integrated, works perfectly
Leather interior, power drivers seat, slide/recline/flip 2nd row, hidden 3rd row
10 year powertrain warranty, 5 year bumper-to-bumper warranty
Moonroof, tinted glass on rear windows
18" alloy wheels
Stability control, traction control, TPMS, ABS, side curtain airbags
I got mine fully loaded like that for $29,000. List is $32,000 but you can get it for under invoice if you try.
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#211
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Earlier you asked about dealing @ the dealers.
I think that if the economy continues in its current state, dealing should not be a problem. That is as long as you are not buying a hybrid or an economy car.
IMHO, VW/Audi, Volvo, Mercedes drive nice but can be nightmares to own. The new little Ford SUV is nice but heavy so gets bad MPG. Lexus builds some nice cars for passengers and old people but not for drivers. You need to decide what vehicle class you wait to be in. Then FWD, RWD or AWD. Right now you are all over the map.
Buying a new car is more fun than buying a new house.
I think that if the economy continues in its current state, dealing should not be a problem. That is as long as you are not buying a hybrid or an economy car.
IMHO, VW/Audi, Volvo, Mercedes drive nice but can be nightmares to own. The new little Ford SUV is nice but heavy so gets bad MPG. Lexus builds some nice cars for passengers and old people but not for drivers. You need to decide what vehicle class you wait to be in. Then FWD, RWD or AWD. Right now you are all over the map.
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#212
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I will most likely get a sedan unless I really fall in love with a crossover....
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Mazda 7 maybe
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#216
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How are the Mazdas (Mazda 6, CX-7 or CX-9)? Solid?
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Solid
not my cup of tea (earl grey thank you) but solid
not my cup of tea (earl grey thank you) but solid
#218
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Cool. 2008 TLs are selling low and now considering a 2008 Maxima....
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Go with the 09 Maxima if you are going with one of those. I really like the re-design of them.
Whiskers is pretty much all over the place on these. You must be one hell of an impulse buyer.
Whiskers is pretty much all over the place on these. You must be one hell of an impulse buyer.
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
How are the Mazdas (Mazda 6, CX-7 or CX-9)? Solid?
#223
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Originally Posted by jmkiang
I test drove the V6 Altimas before picking up my TL.
NO Mazda6 please...
NO Mazda6 please...
#226
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Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
i thought the current 6 was a solid car. the new one looks promising.
#228
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Pics of it look good....I think the wife is set on the Volvo XC70 or the V70...I'm getting a sedan for sure...
#229
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The Ever Growing List:
Ford Fusion (Fully Loaded) - Not sure about a US Ford though
Honda Accord V6 With Nav (Fully Loaded) - I like the 2008 Shape
Hyundai Azera (Fully Loaded)
Infiniti G35 Sedan (New without Nav or maybe CPO with Nav)
Lexus ES350 (probably CPO)
Lincoln MKX (with Nav)
Mazda 6 (Maybe 2009, not sure about 2008)
Mazda CX-7 or maybe CX-9 (Maybe for wife)
Mercury Milan
Nissan Maxima (2009, but 2008 is such a better buy, not sure)
Toyota Avalon (Maybe CPO) - Boring
Toyota Camry (Fully Loaded) - Maybe Hybrid
Volswagen Passat Sedan (Lux with Nav)
Volvo S60
Volvo V70 / XC70 (For the wife)
Ford Fusion (Fully Loaded) - Not sure about a US Ford though
Honda Accord V6 With Nav (Fully Loaded) - I like the 2008 Shape
Hyundai Azera (Fully Loaded)
Infiniti G35 Sedan (New without Nav or maybe CPO with Nav)
Lexus ES350 (probably CPO)
Lincoln MKX (with Nav)
Mazda 6 (Maybe 2009, not sure about 2008)
Mazda CX-7 or maybe CX-9 (Maybe for wife)
Mercury Milan
Nissan Maxima (2009, but 2008 is such a better buy, not sure)
Toyota Avalon (Maybe CPO) - Boring
Toyota Camry (Fully Loaded) - Maybe Hybrid
Volswagen Passat Sedan (Lux with Nav)
Volvo S60
Volvo V70 / XC70 (For the wife)
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
The Ever Growing List:
Ford Fusion (Fully Loaded) - Not sure about a US Ford though
...
Volvo V70 / XC70 (For the wife)
Ford Fusion (Fully Loaded) - Not sure about a US Ford though
...
Volvo V70 / XC70 (For the wife)
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How could you miss the Acura TL, TSX, Saab 9-3, Saturn Aura XR, Subaru Legacy GT and Pontiac G8?
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#231
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Originally Posted by Will Y.
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How could you miss the Acura TL, TSX, Saab 9-3, Saturn Aura XR, Subaru Legacy GT and Pontiac G8?
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#232
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Originally Posted by Will Y.
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How could you miss the Acura TL, TSX, Saab 9-3, Saturn Aura XR, Subaru Legacy GT and Pontiac G8?
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#234
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Originally Posted by LotusTracker
2 volvo's is sooo princeton...
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#235
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Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
i thought the current 6 was a solid car. the new one looks promising.
I do agree that the redesigned Mazda6 doesn't look too shabby... but if you're gonna do V6, do TL!
This is a Mazdaspeed6 at a Tokyp Autoshow
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Not a bad kit...
#236
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^^I'm a father with a 5 year old....I'm not drag racing....At least, maybe not...Looks nice though..
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
What's wrong with the Volvo V70?
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Saabs scare you, but a VW Passat doesn't??
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Oh, and the Maxima only has a CVT transmission, IIRC.
Used 2007 S80s are pretty close to $30K, by the way, if that's an option- depreciation is high, as are repair costs.
#239
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Originally Posted by Will Y.
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Saabs scare you, but a VW Passat doesn't??
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Oh, and the Maxima only has a CVT transmission, IIRC.
Used 2007 S80s are pretty close to $30K, by the way, if that's an option- depreciation is high, as are repair costs.
#240
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
i love the new XC70...
whats your budget? you say CPO on some cars yet other cars listed cost more
whats your budget? you say CPO on some cars yet other cars listed cost more